Is the Bench for UCONN a top 25 team by itself?

[CocoHusky]

Idk boss, I think Roy could be South Carolina other starting wing, BUT I could be wrong. Hopefully a South Carolina fan stops by and clears this up for us. You do make good points about Chong. That type of ability surrounding the Gamecocks post would be scary.

You are forgetting the other SC returning stater is Dozier.
PG Sessions
SG Mitchell
SF Dozier
PF Wilson
C: Coates

 

[BlueDevils]

You are forgetting the other SC returning stater is Dozier.
PG Sessions
SG Mitchell
SF Dozier
PF Wilson
C: Coates

 

[CocoHusky]

You are correct Roy has displaced Dozier as the starting wing. Makes sense since SC is desperate for outside shooting. So back to the original point, Chong could replace Roy in SC starting lineup. Are we in agreement 1) Chong, KLS, and Collier could replace starters on Lady Vols, South Carolina, & ND 2)Lady Vols, South Carolina, & ND are "respectable" teams.

 

[Frodo]

The way they are playing right now, early in the year, is scary if you are an opponent.

NO! Check out Auriemma's comments in Jim Fuller's latest column. Even if you substitute Williams or Butler into the mix it won't be enough. By the end of the season, however, a 9 player rotation that includes Williams, Samuelson, Collier, and Chong (I'm assuming that Butler will eventually force her way into the starting lineup) should make this team national champs again.

 

[BlueDevils]

You are correct Roy has displaced Dozier as the starting wing. Makes sense since SC is desperate for outside shooting. So back to the original point, Chong could replace Roy in SC starting lineup. Are we in agreement 1) Chong, KLS, and Collier could replace starters on Lady Vols, South Carolina, & ND 2)Lady Vols, South Carolina, & ND are "respectable" teams.

Weird how I can respect Dayton, Stanford, and Cal, but not lady vols. too many underachieving years. I put Duke and Tenn in the same category. Obviously I respect Duke if that makes any sense, or maybe I'm being bias. Other than that yes, we've came to an agreement.

 

[CocoHusky]

NO! Check out Auriemma's comments in Jim Fuller's latest column. Even if you substitute Williams or Butler into the mix it won't be enough. By the end of the season, however, a 9 player rotation that includes Williams, Samuelson, Collier, and Chong (I'm assuming that Butler will eventually force her way into the starting lineup) should make this team national champs again.

Are you saying that we need a 9 players rotation to win the National Championship? If so, I disagree. 2014 Championship was with a 6 Player rotation and Championship game was against an undefeated team.

 

[CocoHusky]

Weird how I can respect Dayton, Stanford, and Cal, but not lady vols. too many underachieving years. I put Duke and Tenn in the same category. Obviously I respect Duke if that makes any sense, or maybe I'm being bias. Other than that yes, we've came to an agreement.

Not weird at all. I get it you are a Duke fan. What is a little strange is a Duke fan pointing out how Lady Vols have underachieved. I'm a UCONN fan and my POV is that both Duke and the Lady Vols have underachieved lately, but I do get more joy out of Lady Vols underachieving.

 

[DobbsRover2]

Sessions starts for South Carolina because of her defense. Dawn needs someone to play composed, set her offense, and play tough defense. Can a junior version Chong do this? Can a junior version run point? Now Chong replacing Tina Roy who is their shooter could be more compelling.

Not really sure if you were being serious here, but I 'll give you the benefit of thinking you were. Chong was mainly put in as a defensive stopper in her minutes with the starters last year during conference play and after, so yes she does play good defense despite what a few of BY's Chong haters kept driveling out last season. At 47% FG% and 36.6% 3-pt FG% and 74.2% FT% last year Chong can also shoot the ball, whereas Sessions at 40.1%, 31.3%, and 52.9% last year was not a great threat at keeping defenses honest, and except for the FTs, her shooting has started off even worse this year at 39.1% and 0.0%. Sessions was playing more minutes and with more time with the starters had more assists than Chong with more the second unit where opportunities were more limited, and also had a few less TOs. Sessions is known for defense and she led her team in steals, a role played by MoJeff and Gabby especially on UConn, but the problem with good defensive guard who can also contribute 2 or 3 assists but whose shooting is so poor is the question of whether it balances out on the score sheet. With Chong you don't have those worries as she is well-rounded without those major flaws.

 

[CocoHusky]

Not really sure if you were being serious here, but I 'll give you the benefit of thinking you were. Chong was mainly put in as a defensive stopper in her minutes with the starters last year during conference play and after, so yes she does play good defense despite what a few of BY's Chong haters kept driveling out last season. At 47% FG% and 36.6% 3-pt FG% and 74.2% FT% last year Chong can also shoot the ball, whereas Sessions at 40.1%, 31.3%, and 52.9% last year was not a great threat at keeping defenses honest, and except for the FTs, her shooting has started off even worse this year at 39.1% and 0.0%. Sessions was playing more minutes and with more time with the starters had more assists than Chong with more the second unit where opportunities were more limited, and also had a few less TOs. Sessions is known for defense and she led her team in steals, a role played by MoJeff and Gabby especially on UConn, but the problem with good defensive guard who can also contribute 2 or 3 assists but whose shooting is so poor is the question of whether it balances out on the score sheet. With Chong you don't have those worries as she is well-rounded without those major flaws.

I can definitely cosign most of this, the notable exception being "a few of BY's Chong haters" which I believe to be solely singular to your imagination. Another exception is this concept of Chong "as a defensive stopper" which I'll just say is also very imaginative.

 

[Gus Mahler]

With Chong you don't have those worries as she is well-rounded without those major flaws.

Yes! Good to see someone point that out.

 

[MJL243]

After watching Texas vs Tennessee, I think it's an insult to call UConn's bench a "top twenty-five team."

 

[Kaizen]

After watching Texas vs Tennessee, I think it's an insult to call UConn's bench a "top twenty-five team."

You are too greedy...

 

[DobbsRover2]

I can definitely cosign most of this, the notable exception being "a few of BY's Chong haters" which I believe to be solely singular to your imagination. Another exception is this concept of Chong "as a defensive stopper" which I'll just say is also very imaginative.

Nah, try watching some of the later season games again when Chong and Stokes went in an UConn took off as the opponent went deep-6. Yeah, part of that was Stokes dominating the post, but there's also the perimeter problem where Chong was sticking one of those long wings out there to keep the opposing guard frustrated.

As to the "singular" nature of the attacks last year, that's your own solo opinion, and a big Whatever on that. From the unclued one who said she couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, to the few who blamed her almost totally for UConn's whole team defensive lapses in a Stanford game where she was at least scoring a bit with her 20+, to those who poohed-poohed her defensive efforts in a number of the first half action in AAC games because of the supposedly horrible conference or her PG efforts with the second unit in the second half for the same reason, or most recently those who said how surprised they were that Chong could play good defense and that she had "no impact" in the Dayton game and that he made only a "small mistake" about her impact factor when he couldn't see that she was not in the game.

Personally, I do think that all the UConn players are due the courtesy of getting the facts and stats about them set correctly before you go making the negative comments about their play. And if you do screw that part up, you shouldn't just say it's meaningless oversight ot that you are in some way the greatest UConn fan ever. The Huskies all deserve more than that type of commentary on their play, the likes of which no other team's fans will ever enjoy the likes of.

In any case, Huskies look like they've done pretty well when Chong is on the court so far this year, so maybe certain BYers can go back to just bashing the refs, and they always need to be bashed because that's what they're out there for.

 

[WestCoastFan]

Weird how I can respect Dayton, Stanford, and Cal, but not lady vols. too many underachieving years. I put Duke and Tenn in the same category. Obviously I respect Duke if that makes any sense, or maybe I'm being bias. Other than that yes, we've came to an agreement.

I can't be sure, but Joey P. and the Screamin' Mimi at TU might be sisters.

 

[CocoHusky]

As to the "singular" nature of the attacks last year, that's your own solo opinion, and a big Whatever on that.

Speaking of solo opinions, good thing the BY has a pretty good search tool. If you put the words "Chong Hater" into the search you will find that there are 4 separate instances of that phrase used in the Boneyard. All the uses are by you and you alone. You coined the term in the post below on April 9th 2015 and you persists in using it to categorize anyone who legitimately criticizes Saniya including Slu on the day before Thanksgiving. Legit critique does not equal hate and Chong is no lock down defender.

Yeah, so are the haters like certain posters who keep plugging the same carp, memory deficient but quite loyal to the delusions inside their skulls.

 

[HoopsFan21]

UConn's bench is easily a top 25 team. Isn't this often the case? I think this year you have to ask yourself if the bench is a top 10 team, and I think it is. A team of Chong, Ek, KLS, Collier, and Butler w/DJB as the 6th man would seem like a pretty good team to me. As Chong and Ek's confidence grows it's scary how deep this team is. You can see the difference in Ek (looks more comfortable in seeing the best pass, knowing when to shoot), and Chong (taking the baseline, driving the lane) is doing some things that she wouldn't have done last year. The best teams UConn plays are the ones it practices against.

 

[FAN11]

I was impressed with Napheesa Collier over this summer and still am but you 've got to be kidding me about KLS. From one decent game and two where she couldn't even through it in the ocean, I only see her starting for a handfull of AAC teams. Remember before the season you annoited her the fifth starter who would slide right in for KML with no drop off? So a few players off the bench had some bright spots and now your ready to make them a top ten team? Amazing but not shocking.

 

[Huskies Rule]

The bench as a top twenty-five team? C'mon, I love UConn as much as the next guy, but that's kind of ridiculous. If for no other reason than at this point in time, Lou and Napheesa have virtually zero game experience, and despite our unbridled optimism, we really don't know how Natalie will perform. Which makes this one of the more abstruse hypotheticals ever proffered.

 

[FAN11]

You are forgetting the other SC returning stater is Dozier.
PG Sessions
SG Mitchell
SF Dozier
PF Wilson
C: Coates

Tina Roy has started the first few games and has been in a slump from day one.

 

[HoopsFan21]

The bench as a top twenty-five team? C'mon, I love UConn as much as the next guy, but that's kind of ridiculous. If for no other reason than at this point in time, Lou and Napheesa have virtually zero game experience, and despite our unbridled optimism, we really don't know how Natalie will perform. Which makes this one of the more abstruse hypotheticals ever proffered.

KLS and Collier have played in three college games already and have shown what they can do. But, yeah, they suck, so forget you guys and your hypotheticals.

 

[Gus Mahler]

The bench as a top twenty-five team? C'mon, I love UConn as much as the next guy, but that's kind of ridiculous. If for no other reason than at this point in time, Lou and Napheesa have virtually zero game experience, and despite our unbridled optimism, we really don't know how Natalie will perform. Which makes this one of the more abstruse hypotheticals ever proffered.

Dang, HR, you are really bringing it with the words these days.

 

[Frodo]

Are you saying that we need a 9 players rotation to win the National Championship? If so, I disagree. 2014 Championship was with a 6 Player rotation and Championship game was against an undefeated team.

Pretty sure I didn't say any such thing. What I said was a) the bench is not a top 25 team b) by the time we get to post season, Samuelson and Collier have a full season of experience, and Butler has acclimated herself, this will be a very deep team and that Auriemma will probably have the option to use a 9 player rotation if he wants to, although that is not the norm for past teams.

By the way, it's kind of poor form to take someone else's post, and modify it (e.g., bolding a sentence) to make it appear that the original post had emphasized a statement when it did not. If you want to quote someone and choose to place some emphasis on all or part of a statement, that fine, but don't change someone's original post, to make it appear that emphasis was placed where it wasn't.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

that she had "no impact" in the Dayton game and that he made only a "small mistake" about her impact factor when he couldn't see that she was not in the game.

Please stop making things up. Thanks.

 

[DobbsRover2]

Please stop making things up. Thanks.

Um, well then stop saying them. You only have to refrain from making up stats and facts (oh, they're just small stuff, and the player won't mind) or critiquing a player from your own voluminous experience to say she has\had no impact to keep lodging a foot in your mouth or another part of the anatomy.

Up to you, but again, I think each Husky player deserves better.

 

[CocoHusky]

Pretty sure I didn't say any such thing. What I said was a) the bench is not a top 25 team b) by the time we get to post season, Samuelson and Collier have a full season of experience, and Butler has acclimated herself, this will be a very deep team and that Auriemma will probably have the option to use a 9 player rotation if he wants to, although that is not the norm for past teams.

By the way, it's kind of poor form to take someone else's post, and modify it (e.g., bolding a sentence) to make it appear that the original post had emphasized a statement when it did not. If you want to quote someone and choose to place some emphasis on all or part of a statement, that fine, but don't change someone's original post, to make it appear that emphasis was placed where it wasn't.

Thanks for the clarification.