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Message: [QUOTE="Travelman6, post: 3671333, member: 7597"] No, that honor goes to Ray, followed by RIP. You can place him on the next tier with Caron, Gordon, and Cliff with a great shot of joining the top tier in the next half-decade to a decade. BTW, it is [B]absolutely[/B] CRIMINAL RIP was only invited to 3 all-star games in his career. He was an all-star in 2006, 2007, and 2008. He should have been an all-star in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2009, and 2010. At the very least those 3 allstar appearances should be doubled. Also, that 2009-10 Pistons team had RIP, Gordon and Villaneuva but sadly only won 27 games an in 2010-11 only won 30 :( . [/QUOTE]