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Message: [QUOTE="Bayareahusky, post: 2950259, member: 2136"] Yes who knows what happened with Pat..... in 2006.... perhaps behavior related to her sad disease.... but if that is true... why does the Vol Nation parrot her words "You know what you did"..... she tried to dismantle our program make no mistake about it..... with no apologies..... and if she gets a pass because of early onset.... the fan base sure does not get the same.... they still want to run us in the ditch,,.... which is fine.... but with innuendo and accusations that just are not true.... I have never seen anyone on Volnation or anywhere else come out with facts on their beefs related to our program.... they talk about handbags and apartments.... well that was investigated..... all they can say is that .... well Pat said this and that.... Tenn fans are bruised in the thinking that its history has been eclipsed.... so whatever they want to hang onto it is fine.... you look at any measure of Pat vs. Geno and the facts will say it loud and clear.... I think Pat has been eclipsed in every way except total wins, and that will go by the wayside in a couple of years.... and of course Geno has gotten his records in fewer years.... and the complaint from Knoxville that the cheating is rampant in CT.... I would challenge any fan from Tenn to look up the (very accessible) records on NCAA violations Pat vs Geno and see what you come up with..... Having said that .... I have nothing against Tennessee and actually pull for them often when I watch them.... they are loaded with talent... I am like many others in thinking that Holly was a bad choice to stick with this long.... and she of course was Pat's legacy and hand picked choice..... the players deserve better than Holly, who has trouble with adjustments, seeing the big picture, incorporating a modern offense, and espousing an antiquated theory that defense rebounding and effort is enough to win a WCBB game.... true 20 years ago maybe but not today.... I also appreciate the Tenn posters who post on this forum.... thank goodness they are more level headed and introspective than the orange sites..... As for ND.... of course their fans are very provincial..... but I have respect for Muffet as a coach.... and although they are a hated rival.... I respect her coaching chops..... yes she gets mouthy sometimes and so do her players .... but it is in the spirit of good competition.... Muffet gets her players ready for game time... and that I respect about her.... It is funny talking about tennessee and Notre Dame.... I sort of think about Tennessee Lady Vols in the same light as Notre Dame football.... in that they both kinda live off their history.... ND has not won a National championship in 30 years.... yes i know they have made it to the final game.... but for a storied program like ND, you would think that they would have won something since the 80s..... Tennessee is in danger of being irrelevant in my opinion.... America will not hang on Tenn WCBB as they will ND football.... and to keep Holly as coach just because she has a winning record, as her fans point out.... is not enough... when the good coaches are coming to WCBB..... it has been 10 years.... without any final 4 appearances.... i wonder what the promos at the top of next year's CT TN game will be.... back to the glory days 20 years ago.... it is not enough to capture deep interest as there was at the height of the rivalry..... One more thing ... a general comment.... upon seeing Muffet win her 2nd NCAA title.... made me think and appreciate what we have done over the years.... and what Pat did as well.... multiple titles.... hell, it is hard to win ONE!!!! Mulkey has 2.... Tara has 2 but last one over quarter century ago.... and those are 2 good coaches.... so kudos to Pat and Geno as well in noting the fact that once you win, it is difficult to KEEP winning..... [/QUOTE]

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