Indiana: their stats vs Iowa and Princeton

[Big Mick]

Indiana goes just six deep.

Versus Iowa

Versus Princeton

Notes:
1) Key players are Berger (50% from play) and Cardano-Hillary (41% from play). They take more than 1/2 of all shots.
2) A relatively small team with two players at 6' 3" and everyone else at 6' 0" or smaller.
3) UCONN should clean the boards on the Defensive side and get a major share on the Offensive side.

UCONN by 23

 

[LoboDays]

I didn’t realize they play with just 6. Hope we press, run, sub liberally and run away in the 4th quarter.

 

[Charliebball]

Indiana is very much like UConn without the elite athleticism..........UConn must hound Hillary and Berger from the tip...........I see Geno giving Nika the assignment of pestering Hillary all over the court but she's got to stay out of foul trouble.......................if UConn shoots well the game might not even be close but if they let Indiana stay in the game early it could be quite a battle........

 

[JellyBean]

Thanks for sharing. Indiana is small but a crafty team. Love watching this team play, especially Mackenzie Holmes. Should be a great game.

 

[jchusky]

sorry but I have a hard time believing a team of 4+ srs that have played a long time are going to lose by 23. Spread is +8.5 for a reason.

 

[Bigboote]

Notes:
1) Key players are Berger (50% from play) and Cardano-Hillary (41% from play). They take more than 1/2 of all shots.

In two games when their offense was struggling, yes. But over the season, their shot distribution is amazingly even. You can't sleep on anyone from Indiana.

 

[TeamFirst!]

Holmes is still their best player. The only one shooting above 44% out of the entire first 6. They still have a balanced attack though potentially. A 2 game sample size is pretty small.

 

[SVCBeercats]

Indiana goes just six deep.

Versus Iowa
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Versus Princeton

UCONN by 23

The answer is to my query is probably obvious but I don't see it. Why compare Indiana's stats versus Princeton and Iowa?

 

[Big Mick]

The answer is to my query is probably obvious but I don't see it. Why compare Indiana's stats versus Princeton and Iowa?

Aah, ummmm, errr, because Indiana just played them in win or go home games...

 

[Bigboote]

Aah, ummmm, errr, because Indiana just played them in win or go home games...

With a game in between.

 

[MSGRET]

Aah, ummmm, errr, because Indiana just played them in win or go home games...

Creighton played Iowa while Indiana played Charlotte. The Iowa vs Indiana was for the B1G Tournament Championship.

 

[Big Mick]

With a game in between.

We're talking competitive games here. Indiana won that in-between'er (vs Charlotte) by 34.....and so, everyone gets to feast.

The thing is - when you have to win a close game:
And so, that is where those stats vs Ohio and Princeton tell the real measure of what Indiana brings.

 

[Urshurak]

Somewhere in Indiana they’re looking at three UConn games. Georgia Tech, South Carolina and Oregon. I’m sure some of them think that’s the whole story.

 

[Big Mick]

Somewhere in Indiana they’re looking at three UConn games. Georgia Tech, South Carolina and Oregon. I’m sure some of them think that’s the whole story.

You miss the point: this is about evaluating what Indiana can bring vs UCONN.

If you want to be relevant, give us your take on how it will go.

 

[MSGRET]

We're talking competitive games here. Indiana won that in-between'er (vs Charlotte) by 34.....and so, everyone gets to feast.

The thing is - when you have to win a close game:
And so, that is where those stats vs Ohio and Princeton tell the real measure of what Indiana brings.

Then why did you answer with the following? "Aah, ummmm, errr, because Indiana just played them in win or go home games..." The Iowa game was not a win or go home game.

 

[Urshurak]

You miss the point: this is about evaluating what Indiana can bring vs UCONN.

If you want to be relevant, give us your take on how it will go.

Sure. It means nothing. It’s tournament time. Both teams are talented or they wouldn’t be here. Predictions? Please. Literally so many variables it’s impossible. How many times did UConn lose in the final 4 recently when statistics in some of those seasons showed they could sleep through the tournament.

Anything can happen. Not sure anything would surprise me.

Sorry if that’s not relevant enough. But, don’t really care if it is either.

 

[Big Mick]

Sure. It means nothing. It’s tournament time. Both teams are talented or they wouldn’t be here. Predictions? Please. Literally so many variables it’s impossible. How many times did UConn lose in the final 4 recently when statistics in some of those seasons showed they could sleep through the tournament.

Anything can happen. Not sure anything would surprise me.

Sorry if that’s not relevant enough. But, don’t really care if it is either.

Yup, no opinion: irrelevant

 

[Big Mick]

Then why did you answer with the following? "Aah, ummmm, errr, because Indiana just played them in win or go home games..." The Iowa game was not a win or go home game.

AGAIN - we're talking competitive games here. It was the Big Ten Tournament Final for cripes sakes. Indiana brought their best and it wasn't enough. Them stats don't lie, baby.

 

[Big Mick]

Aaaagh, Jeez - I love this board

 

[ucbart]

Indiana seems to have the general makeup of a lot of BE teams, but just more talented? I haven't seen them play enough, but is that a good assessment?

 

[GoUconn7961]

I never preview the opposing team because in the end it doesn’t matter. Every single game is different. Previous games don’t equal what any team will do today, or going forward.

 

[Boreifs]

Indiana seems to have the general makeup of a lot of BE teams, but just more talented? I haven't seen them play enough, but is that a good assessment?

I have seen them play a lot (I’m an alum) and they don’t play anything like a typical Big East team. Holmes is a classic post, Berger’s game is almost totally within the arc and their Spanish point guard loves to drive to the hoop. The 3-pointer is not a major facet of their game; Patberg is their only player who looks for that shot, although Gulbe will shoot it if she is not guarded.

 

[browns]

Princeton had 10 offensive rebounds..Hello Dorka?

 

[JoePgh]

Indiana seems to have the general makeup of a lot of BE teams, but just more talented? I haven't seen them play enough, but is that a good assessment?

I would say, specifically, that their playing style resembles Marquette's, but as you say, Indiana has more scoring talent. Like Marquette, their offense is mostly inside the arc.

It appears to me that UConn should be able to dominate the boards, including the offensive boards. That should enable UConn to prevail even if the 3's aren't falling.

 

[jchusky]

I never preview the opposing team because in the end it doesn’t matter. Every single game is different. Previous games don’t equal what any team will do today, or going forward.

couldn't have said it better myself. Also this idea that well "this team beat this team and lost to this team so that means we would beat them" will always make me chuckle. Tournament games are about styles and matchups. Arkansas and Baylor DESTROYED Gonzaga. Why? Because their physicality tore down Timme and Chet.

 

[Big Mick]

Ummm, not wanting to take a victory lap; BUT....

I pretty much nailed it with my "UCONN by 23" prediction above.

 

[MSGRET]

Ummm, not wanting to take a victory lap; BUT....

I pretty much nailed it with my "UCONN by 23" prediction above.

Actually there were at least 25 prognosticators that were much better than your prediction.

 

[JoePgh]

I prefer to take credit for my prediction (see post #24 in this thread) that UConn would dominate the boards, including the offensive boards. Between O-bounds and an advantage of 6 in the turnover margin, UConn got nearly 20 more FGA's than Indiana, which makes up for a slightly lower FG%. But the FG% wasn't bad either -- 46%.

 

[Big Mick]

I prefer to take credit for my prediction (see post #24 in this thread) that UConn would dominate the boards, including the offensive boards. Between O-bounds and an advantage of 6 in the turnover margin, UConn got nearly 20 more FGA's than Indiana, which makes up for a slightly lower FG%. But the FG% wasn't bad either -- 46%.

@JoePgh - first of all, I like your thoughtful posts and I mostly find myself nodding in agreement.

For this particular game, the Indiana stats that we (you and I) refer to would point to a quite comfortable win for UCONN. Which is what happened. I predicted a 23 point win for UCONN and soooo I took a "tongue in cheek" victory lap. While nobody actually castigated me, there were mumbles and grumbles that I was talking nonsense, ever rubbish.

I look at it as all good fun... Grrrrr