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Who would wanna recruit Ohio...?

All 50 states, ranked by 2019 blue-chip recruits

#9 Ohio (13)
#20 Oklahoma (4)
There's studies that show one of the biggest factors where recruits go to school is proximity, which is a bit obvious. Tulsa's 2 hours from University of Arkansas. I am sure Arky would prefer fishing in a bigger recruiting pool (OH vs OK), but probably realize it's unlikely to be successful.
 
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I was in Tuscaloosa this weekend to watch NMSU get throttled. Spoke to our AD who said he is more than willing to play UConn in football and would love to play us in basketball too.

Spoke to Chris Jans and he spoke highly of Hurley and the program.
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The hottest I have ever been in a stadium, and was in the shade! Can not imagine what it was like on the sun side. NM State should have demanded a bonus for coming out for second half.
 
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The hottest I have ever been in a stadium, and was in the shade! Can not imagine what it was like on the sun side. NM State should have demanded a bonus for coming out for second half.
I can confirm. I’ve never been hotter in any place at any time in my life. It was 107 on the field. Saw a few fans get taken out on a stretcher hooked up to IV bags.

Amazing stadium and very nice campus
 

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For those who are following these developments closely like me...

Remaining FBS Teams with openings on their schedule for next year (2020 Season):


Team (Game's still to fill)

Virginia Tech (1)

TCU (2)

FIU (1)

Old Dominion (1)

Louisiana Tech (1)

Southern Miss (1)

UAB (1)

Air Force (1)

ULM (1)
 
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Aloha,

Good job in reminding the faithful here of where most of the football studs come from: CA, TX, FL & GA & other southern states. There's NO WAY that UConn will ever get kids from CA & TX on a regular basis. So, what's to draw many of the better southern players up to play FBS Independent football up at c-cold, far-away, irrelevant-in-football UConn? It's certainly not our football tradition.

UConn will never draw those kids, especially after at least 10 years now of bottom-feeding in FBS. Kids want to play for winning programs w/ tradition, near their homes, in rivalries against their friends, or in the really big games if they're great. The SEC offers both. So, we aren't getting them up to 1-11 Storrs. New England doesn't grow any of them. We grow hoopsters.

In 2012, the established football powers & NCAA big shots changed the rules. "Football-uber-alles" became the cry & the new reality with college football realignments. UConn got lost in the shuffle. It sucks but that's it - banished in an insanely costly, free-fall to the foreign, distant campus purgatory of the AAC.

It's not the coaches faults entirely either. It's UConn's lack of a longstanding positive reputation outside of the region for FBS football & our constant futility that keeps us from getting the better recruits, & invited into the better leagues.

Note: I hate to say it, but Jimmy Calhoun's less-than-honorable past NCAA history in recruiting battles also had something to do with the Huskies being left out in the cold by the ACC during realignment as well, another story. Cheating is a double-edged sword, Jimmy.

Since 2012, knowledge about the terrible, long-term effects of football on players' health has been firmly established & promoted by all, even the NFL. CTE, early dementia & suicide are no joke to be laughed off as coaches often used to do. Today, millions of knowledgable parents prevent their children from playing tackle football, a sport that shortens brains & lives, all well-documented. That's the main trend that aint going away. Tackle football, as we know & love it, will eventually go away. These people aren't weak. They're just smart enough to make the connection & make changes that promote healthy children. It's a healthy trend, IMO.

Conversely, it's been documented that African-American parents of many aforementioned Southern football studs are the main group still pushing their kids into football - because they have other pressures, like preventing gangs from trying to recruit their children, to deal with. So, they're still available - but not to the UConn's of the Northeastern college football spectrum.

The point is: Why waste time & spend many more millions on the losing proposition that is FBS football for UConn, even as an independent?

Skipping the downsizing steps from FBS-to FBS Independent-to FCS is the smart, fiscally-prudent move.

FCS football in the CAA is the best way for UConn to go, to rebuild traditional, regional rivalries against teams that UConn fans know, actually hate & want to beat & care about the games. No empty seats there. And UConn will save millions by not traveling to those far away campuses. I mean, what was UConn doing playing at Tulsa? Who cares?

CURRENT TREND: Only 24 FBS football programs made money last year. All of the rest of the hundreds of participating schools (FBS-FCS-Div II & III) LOST money on college football. COSTS! Wake up Connecticut & UConn fans - we need a new fiscal approach.

UConn football joining the FCS would provide a fresh start in a positive direction, one that will serve future UConn students & supporters much better than being a hired, money-grubbing loser as an FBS Independent scrounging for games that don't mean a thing to us.

Maybe the lack of independent scheduling by the AD that's rattling the OP is a sign that UConn leaders still don't know how long they'll be willing & able to commit to FBS Independent football.

C'mon, UConn athletics is $40 mil in debt! Collegiate bankrupt athletic budgets today are not feasible for most schools & football costs are most of the budget & increasing exponentially. Let's not throw more bad money after bad money spent, for pride!? Let's cut our losses & go to the CAA of the FCS. It's the logical move if there is to be any level of sustainable football for UConn. The studs will never consistently come up to play at UConn in the numbers to make us an FBS winner again.

UConn has made its bed with the Big East commitment as a basketball school. Football will just have to take a back seat for now, just as basketball had to adjust in 2012.

alohachris
 
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Aloha,

Good job in reminding the faithful here of where most of the football studs come from: CA, TX, FL & GA & other southern states. There's NO WAY that UConn will ever get kids from CA & TX on a regular basis. So, what's to draw many of the better southern players up to play FBS Independent football up at c-cold, far-away, irrelevant-in-football UConn? It's certainly not our football tradition.

UConn will never draw those kids, especially after at least 10 years now of bottom-feeding in FBS. Kids want to play for winning programs w/ tradition, near their homes, in rivalries against their friends, or in the really big games if they're great. The SEC offers both. So, we aren't getting them up to 1-11 Storrs. New England doesn't grow any of them. We grow hoopsters.

In 2012, the established football powers & NCAA big shots changed the rules. "Football-uber-alles" became the cry & the new reality with college football realignments. UConn got lost in the shuffle. It sucks but that's it - banished in an insanely costly, free-fall to the foreign, distant campus purgatory of the AAC.

It's not the coaches faults entirely either. It's UConn's lack of a longstanding positive reputation outside of the region for FBS football & our constant futility that keeps us from getting the better recruits, & invited into the better leagues.

Note: I hate to say it, but Jimmy Calhoun's less-than-honorable past NCAA history in recruiting battles also had something to do with the Huskies being left out in the cold by the ACC during realignment as well, another story. Cheating is a double-edged sword, Jimmy.

Since 2012, knowledge about the terrible, long-term effects of football on players' health has been firmly established & promoted by all, even the NFL. CTE, early dementia & suicide are no joke to be laughed off as coaches often used to do. Today, millions of knowledgable parents prevent their children from playing tackle football, a sport that shortens brains & lives, all well-documented. That's the main trend that aint going away. Tackle football, as we know & love it, will eventually go away. These people aren't weak. They're just smart enough to make the connection & make changes that promote healthy children. It's a healthy trend, IMO.

Conversely, it's been documented that African-American parents of many aforementioned Southern football studs are the main group still pushing their kids into football - because they have other pressures, like preventing gangs from trying to recruit their children, to deal with. So, they're still available - but not to the UConn's of the Northeastern college football spectrum.

The point is: Why waste time & spend many more millions on the losing proposition that is FBS football for UConn, even as an independent?

Skipping the downsizing steps from FBS-to FBS Independent-to FCS is the smart, fiscally-prudent move.

FCS football in the CAA is the best way for UConn to go, to rebuild traditional, regional rivalries against teams that UConn fans know, actually hate & want to beat & care about the games. No empty seats there. And UConn will save millions by not traveling to those far away campuses. I mean, what was UConn doing playing at Tulsa? Who cares?

CURRENT TREND: Only 24 FBS football programs made money last year. All of the rest of the hundreds of participating schools (FBS-FCS-Div II & III) LOST money on college football. COSTS! Wake up Connecticut & UConn fans - we need a new fiscal approach.

UConn football joining the FCS would provide a fresh start in a positive direction, one that will serve future UConn students & supporters much better than being a hired, money-grubbing loser as an FBS Independent scrounging for games that don't mean a thing to us.

Maybe the lack of independent scheduling by the AD that's rattling the OP is a sign that UConn leaders still don't know how long they'll be willing & able to commit to FBS Independent football.

C'mon, UConn athletics is $40 mil in debt! Collegiate bankrupt athletic budgets today are not feasible for most schools & football costs are most of the budget & increasing exponentially. Let's not throw more bad money after bad money spent, for pride!? Let's cut our losses & go to the CAA of the FCS. It's the logical move if there is to be any level of sustainable football for UConn. The studs will never consistently come up to play at UConn in the numbers to make us an FBS winner again.

UConn has made its bed with the Big East commitment as a basketball school. Football will just have to take a back seat for now, just as basketball had to adjust in 2012.

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For those who are following these developments closely like me...

Remaining FBS Teams with openings on their schedule for next year (2020 Season):


Team (Game's still to fill)

Virginia Tech (1)

TCU (2)

FIU (1)

Old Dominion (1)

Louisiana Tech (1)

Southern Miss (1)

UAB (1)

Air Force (1)

ULM (1)
Thing is - every one on this list has yet to schedule their annual FCS game. So we have to convince these schools to skip their cupcake game which is not easy.
 
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Aloha,

Good job in reminding the faithful here of where most of the football studs come from: CA, TX, FL & GA & other southern states. There's NO WAY that UConn will ever get kids from CA & TX on a regular basis. So, what's to draw many of the better southern players up to play FBS Independent football up at c-cold, far-away, irrelevant-in-football UConn? It's certainly not our football tradition.

UConn will never draw those kids, especially after at least 10 years now of bottom-feeding in FBS. Kids want to play for winning programs w/ tradition, near their homes, in rivalries against their friends, or in the really big games if they're great. The SEC offers both. So, we aren't getting them up to 1-11 Storrs. New England doesn't grow any of them. We grow hoopsters.

In 2012, the established football powers & NCAA big shots changed the rules. "Football-uber-alles" became the cry & the new reality with college football realignments. UConn got lost in the shuffle. It sucks but that's it - banished in an insanely costly, free-fall to the foreign, distant campus purgatory of the AAC.

It's not the coaches faults entirely either. It's UConn's lack of a longstanding positive reputation outside of the region for FBS football & our constant futility that keeps us from getting the better recruits, & invited into the better leagues.

Note: I hate to say it, but Jimmy Calhoun's less-than-honorable past NCAA history in recruiting battles also had something to do with the Huskies being left out in the cold by the ACC during realignment as well, another story. Cheating is a double-edged sword, Jimmy.

Since 2012, knowledge about the terrible, long-term effects of football on players' health has been firmly established & promoted by all, even the NFL. CTE, early dementia & suicide are no joke to be laughed off as coaches often used to do. Today, millions of knowledgable parents prevent their children from playing tackle football, a sport that shortens brains & lives, all well-documented. That's the main trend that aint going away. Tackle football, as we know & love it, will eventually go away. These people aren't weak. They're just smart enough to make the connection & make changes that promote healthy children. It's a healthy trend, IMO.

Conversely, it's been documented that African-American parents of many aforementioned Southern football studs are the main group still pushing their kids into football - because they have other pressures, like preventing gangs from trying to recruit their children, to deal with. So, they're still available - but not to the UConn's of the Northeastern college football spectrum.

The point is: Why waste time & spend many more millions on the losing proposition that is FBS football for UConn, even as an independent?

Skipping the downsizing steps from FBS-to FBS Independent-to FCS is the smart, fiscally-prudent move.

FCS football in the CAA is the best way for UConn to go, to rebuild traditional, regional rivalries against teams that UConn fans know, actually hate & want to beat & care about the games. No empty seats there. And UConn will save millions by not traveling to those far away campuses. I mean, what was UConn doing playing at Tulsa? Who cares?

CURRENT TREND: Only 24 FBS football programs made money last year. All of the rest of the hundreds of participating schools (FBS-FCS-Div II & III) LOST money on college football. COSTS! Wake up Connecticut & UConn fans - we need a new fiscal approach.

UConn football joining the FCS would provide a fresh start in a positive direction, one that will serve future UConn students & supporters much better than being a hired, money-grubbing loser as an FBS Independent scrounging for games that don't mean a thing to us.

Maybe the lack of independent scheduling by the AD that's rattling the OP is a sign that UConn leaders still don't know how long they'll be willing & able to commit to FBS Independent football.

C'mon, UConn athletics is $40 mil in debt! Collegiate bankrupt athletic budgets today are not feasible for most schools & football costs are most of the budget & increasing exponentially. Let's not throw more bad money after bad money spent, for pride!? Let's cut our losses & go to the CAA of the FCS. It's the logical move if there is to be any level of sustainable football for UConn. The studs will never consistently come up to play at UConn in the numbers to make us an FBS winner again.

UConn has made its bed with the Big East commitment as a basketball school. Football will just have to take a back seat for now, just as basketball had to adjust in 2012.

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Aloha,

Good job in reminding the faithful here of where most of the football studs come from: CA, TX, FL & GA & other southern states. There's NO WAY that UConn will ever get kids from CA & TX on a regular basis. So, what's to draw many of the better southern players up to play FBS Independent football up at c-cold, far-away, irrelevant-in-football UConn? It's certainly not our football tradition.

UConn will never draw those kids, especially after at least 10 years now of bottom-feeding in FBS. Kids want to play for winning programs w/ tradition, near their homes, in rivalries against their friends, or in the really big games if they're great. The SEC offers both. So, we aren't getting them up to 1-11 Storrs. New England doesn't grow any of them. We grow hoopsters.

In 2012, the established football powers & NCAA big shots changed the rules. "Football-uber-alles" became the cry & the new reality with college football realignments. UConn got lost in the shuffle. It sucks but that's it - banished in an insanely costly, free-fall to the foreign, distant campus purgatory of the AAC.

It's not the coaches faults entirely either. It's UConn's lack of a longstanding positive reputation outside of the region for FBS football & our constant futility that keeps us from getting the better recruits, & invited into the better leagues.

Note: I hate to say it, but Jimmy Calhoun's less-than-honorable past NCAA history in recruiting battles also had something to do with the Huskies being left out in the cold by the ACC during realignment as well, another story. Cheating is a double-edged sword, Jimmy.

Since 2012, knowledge about the terrible, long-term effects of football on players' health has been firmly established & promoted by all, even the NFL. CTE, early dementia & suicide are no joke to be laughed off as coaches often used to do. Today, millions of knowledgable parents prevent their children from playing tackle football, a sport that shortens brains & lives, all well-documented. That's the main trend that aint going away. Tackle football, as we know & love it, will eventually go away. These people aren't weak. They're just smart enough to make the connection & make changes that promote healthy children. It's a healthy trend, IMO.

Conversely, it's been documented that African-American parents of many aforementioned Southern football studs are the main group still pushing their kids into football - because they have other pressures, like preventing gangs from trying to recruit their children, to deal with. So, they're still available - but not to the UConn's of the Northeastern college football spectrum.

The point is: Why waste time & spend many more millions on the losing proposition that is FBS football for UConn, even as an independent?

Skipping the downsizing steps from FBS-to FBS Independent-to FCS is the smart, fiscally-prudent move.

FCS football in the CAA is the best way for UConn to go, to rebuild traditional, regional rivalries against teams that UConn fans know, actually hate & want to beat & care about the games. No empty seats there. And UConn will save millions by not traveling to those far away campuses. I mean, what was UConn doing playing at Tulsa? Who cares?

CURRENT TREND: Only 24 FBS football programs made money last year. All of the rest of the hundreds of participating schools (FBS-FCS-Div II & III) LOST money on college football. COSTS! Wake up Connecticut & UConn fans - we need a new fiscal approach.

UConn football joining the FCS would provide a fresh start in a positive direction, one that will serve future UConn students & supporters much better than being a hired, money-grubbing loser as an FBS Independent scrounging for games that don't mean a thing to us.

Maybe the lack of independent scheduling by the AD that's rattling the OP is a sign that UConn leaders still don't know how long they'll be willing & able to commit to FBS Independent football.

C'mon, UConn athletics is $40 mil in debt! Collegiate bankrupt athletic budgets today are not feasible for most schools & football costs are most of the budget & increasing exponentially. Let's not throw more bad money after bad money spent, for pride!? Let's cut our losses & go to the CAA of the FCS. It's the logical move if there is to be any level of sustainable football for UConn. The studs will never consistently come up to play at UConn in the numbers to make us an FBS winner again.

UConn has made its bed with the Big East commitment as a basketball school. Football will just have to take a back seat for now, just as basketball had to adjust in 2012.

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i just read the 14 pages of this thread and was pleasantly surprised to find it's generally optimistic...anyways, i come in peace with a few genuine questions/observations about an indy scheduling framework:

1) doesn't it make sense to schedule 4 indys (2 Home 2 Away) in late-october/november every year when it's harder to get P5 games? that would mean UMass (annually), Army and BYU (annually when available), plus Liberty and/or New Mexico St (if Army or BYU is unavailable in a given year). these games would be H&Hs played out over time.

2) why not schedule 2 Away pay-games every year against the likes of Clemson/Bama etc. to supplement a FS1/SNY football deal, which will realistically be less than the expiring $2 million per year AAC deal?

3) why not balance the 2 Away pay-games with 2 Home FCS games every year? i know only one FCS win counts towards bowl eligibility, but wouldn't a second Home game against a northeastern school like URI/Maine/CCSU etc. generate more regional interest and ticket revenue than a G5 team like LaTech/FIU/Coastal Carolina etc. which have no alumni around here? even Florida St often plays 2 FCS games in a season.

4) that leaves 4 open slots every year (2 Home 2 Away) in september/early-october for regular P5 games. UConn already has a couple of these H&Hs scheduled against teams like Duke/BC/Purdue/Indiana etc.

based on this framework a potential schedule might look something like:

v. Holy Cross (FCS 1)
v. Purdue (P5 1)
@ Bama (pay 1)
@ Vanderbilt (P5 2)
v. Rhode Island (FCS 2)
@ Northwestern (P5 3)
v. Pitt (P5 4)
@ Liberty (indy 1)
@ Army (indy 2)
v. BYU (indy 3)
@ Clemson (pay 2)
v. UMass (indy 4)

i'm sure a lot of you will think these home games aren't good enough but overall it's a lot better than the MAC or CUSA. is it realistic to expect a P5 caliber schedule when UConn isn't in a power conference? BYU is the best barometer and they only get 2 P5 home games per year (not counting the Holy War). bracing for your collective mockery and scorn.
 
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