Incredible LadyVol score | The Boneyard

Incredible LadyVol score

Blakeon18

Dormie
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
4,482
Reaction Score
15,833
South Carolina beat LadyVol 93-50.

The first half SC dominated...led 47-32.Second half was much worse 46-18,
LadyVol ran no offense...just checked treys...actually made a couple very late to get
...Uhhh...closer. SC shot over 70% from the field....played a great/great game.
Inside one week KadyVol got whipped by 0 points [UConn] and then 28 [SC].

Obvious questions: were they embarrassed last Sunday? Emarrased this Sunday?
What's up with the players and the staff? Will this game knock them out of the top 25?

BTW: they are 7-2 in the SEC
 
Tennessee was mentally defeated in the first 3 minutes of the second half. They looked like they had never seen a zone before. Caldwell is definitely not the answer to bringing Tennessee back to their glory days.
TN has been beaten down bad by all the decent teams they’ve played this season and they still a gauntlet to end the year. Texas, Vandy, LSU, Ole Miss, etc
 
.-.
The rest of their schedule is BRUTAL, though.
Yeah, I was about to say that they're 7-2 because they haven't played the top third of the league, and with exception of A&M and Missouri, that is all that is left on their schedule. They could realistically finish 2-5 for a 9-7 record because they still have Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, LSU and Vandy to play.
 
I don’t think she’s a bad coach… but that substitution pattern has got to go. There’s some talent there for sure but they can’t ever get it together if they aren’t playing enough possessions together.
It’s not just her sub pattern. The system isn’t good.

They are very dependent on teams turning it over on their press. Their half court offense and defense isn’t great. They shoot way too many 3s, over 40 today and the coach didn’t prepare them to attack a zone
 
I am not a long time fan like so many on the Boneyard as I became a fan in 2010 and in my limited experience I have NEVER seen A Hockey substitution of player work in BB, I first seen it with DePaul's coach tried it and Uconn destroyed them. I know more knowledgeable posters will come up with more evidence of such, and I thank you. A top rated team has a core unit that is the back bone of the team and talented reserves are the heart of the team. Such a team is Uconn and they are proof that Geno's philosophy on how a team should be coached is proof.GENO the master!!!!! GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!
 
I am not a long time fan like so many on the Boneyard as I became a fan in 2010 and in my limited experience I have NEVER seen A Hockey substitution of player work in BB, I first seen it with DePaul's coach tried it and Uconn destroyed them. I know more knowledgeable posters will come up with more evidence of such, and I thank you. A top rated team has a core unit that is the back bone of the team and talented reserves are the heart of the team. Such a team is Uconn and they are proof that Geno's philosophy on how a team should be coached is proof.GENO the master!!!!! GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!
It has been used extensively in the NBA; Hubie Brown was its first disciple.
 
.-.
I am not a long time fan like so many on the Boneyard as I became a fan in 2010 and in my limited experience I have NEVER seen A Hockey substitution of player work in BB, I first seen it with DePaul's coach tried it and Uconn destroyed them. I know more knowledgeable posters will come up with more evidence of such, and I thank you. A top rated team has a core unit that is the back bone of the team and talented reserves are the heart of the team. Such a team is Uconn and they are proof that Geno's philosophy on how a team should be coached is proof.GENO the master!!!!! GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!
Geno did it once. Not because it was a good idea. He did it because he was really irritated with the 5 kids on the floor and he wanted to send a message.
 
I watched Caldwell’s postgame comments which I found stunning. She spoke exceedingly fast, blamed much of the debacle on the players, frequently suggesting to reporters that they should talk to the team for answers to their questions, even though none of the TN players were made available at the postgame presser.

It’s pretty clear that Caldwell has lost the team and doesn’t know what to do. While some BY’ers may revel in the fall of the LV’s, I would love to see a strong TN program again where the annual battles with UConn are must see TV.

I have no idea if the powers that be at TN will make a change at HC. But if I were the AD or school president and I heard Caldwell’s press conference yesterday, I think I might fire her on the spot.
 
I watched Caldwell’s postgame comments which I found stunning. She spoke exceedingly fast, blamed much of the debacle on the players, frequently suggesting to reporters that they should talk to the team for answers to their questions, even though none of the TN players were made available at the postgame presser.

It’s pretty clear that Caldwell has lost the team and doesn’t know what to do. While some BY’ers may revel in the fall of the LV’s, I would love to see a strong TN program again where the annual battles with UConn are must see TV.

I have no idea if the powers that be at TN will make a change at HC. But if I were the AD or school president and I heard Caldwell’s press conference yesterday, I think I might fire her on the spot.
I agree about the presser, she took no responsibility for how her team was unprepared and could not adjust when SC went zone. If I was her AD or school President, I would fire her as she embarrassed herself, the team and the school. Most experienced coaches would have saved those comments for the locker room, not the press table.
 
While I agree with most regarding Coach Caldwell and her not taking accountability, I had a different take on her comments about the players. To me, it sounded like it was directed more to the upperclassmen/seniors. She noted a couple times that some of the younger players were exhibiting more leadership than others.

Not excusing her approach. Just noting I think it was more towards the seniors on the team. It still causes a lot of toxicity in the locker room though. 😒
 
While I agree with most regarding Coach Caldwell and her not taking accountability, I had a different take on her comments about the players. To me, it sounded like it was directed more to the upperclassmen/seniors. She noted a couple times that some of the younger players were exhibiting more leadership than others.

Not excusing her approach. Just noting I think it was more towards the seniors on the team. It still causes a lot of toxicity in the locker room though. 😒
In this era of NIL and the transfer portal, having solid upperclassmen who have been with the program since they were freshmen is critical for the purpose of continuity and leadership. TN has only 1 player on the roster who is either a junior or senior that started at TN as a freshman. That would be Wynn who missed last year with an injury, played in only 8 games this year off the bench and is now injured again?

Every other junior or senior played somewhere else before coming to TN. Barker & Wolfenberger are both at their 3rd school. TN’s program has a bunch of free agents who don’t have any particular allegiance to Rocky Top. As such they are not particularly effective leaders.

Contrast that with UConn, who’s roster is loaded with upperclassmen that started out in Storrs as freshmen, have been through all the battles and now are consummate leaders. It will be interesting to see how many of TN’s talented freshmen class hang around after the season.
 
.-.
Before making my main point, I want to mention two biases that I have.

1) I am an one of those who hopes that Tennessee WCBB can regain it's footing. I believe that the growth of the game and public acceptance will be enhanced by legacy programs remaining or regaining top strength, which in the long run will make rivalry games more fun. TBH, though I hate it when we lose to Tenn, part of me is okay with last year's loss. First because I think it made all the difference for the rest of the season, second because it made this year's beatdown all that more satisfying.

2) I generally like Kim Caldwell. When she started out at Rocky Top, I thought she presented herself very well. Given how young she is, I hope doesn't get too stubborn and begins to recognize that what worked at Glenville State & Marshall isn't going to cut it in the SEC, especially when all the teams have had a year to observe and now counteract her line change schemes.

There are so many things to consider about what has happened at Tennessee the past 3 games and Kim's reaction to it as seen in her widely criticized pressers.

Regardless of how frustrated or angry a coach might be, IMO it's generally counter-productive to throw the players under the bus. She been criticized for doing this after each of the past three losses but I really think that charge only stands up after the South Carolina game.

The question I want to raise is it is ever proper or smart to say what Kim said after yesterday's game? Is it ever justified to really blame your team?

My take of the UConn and South Carolina games is that her team totally gave up in the second halves. That is just so unacceptable. I don't recall any of our Big East opponents not playing hard up to final horn, regardless of how badly they were losing.

For all intents and purposed, players on major college sports teams are now professional athletes. Keeping in mind that in 2025, the average American salary was $63,000. The average NIL payment to the Lady Vols basketball team this year is $90,000. On top of that, there is house settlement money, the waiver of tuition, and for some of the players, separate NIL money earned from social media endorsements, etc.

When I worked in a supervisory role, I never tolerated my employees not working their hardest. On the rare occasions that I felt the need to say something, it was done privately. I only ended someone's employment twice - it was not a good feeling. But I had the luxury of being able to do that. I don't think college coaches can do that except under certain circumstances, such as with Ruby Whitehorn at the start of the season.
 
Before making my main point, I want to mention two biases that I have.

1) I am an one of those who hopes that Tennessee WCBB can regain it's footing. I believe that the growth of the game and public acceptance will be enhanced by legacy programs remaining or regaining top strength, which in the long run will make rivalry games more fun. TBH, though I hate it when we lose to Tenn, part of me is okay with last year's loss. First because I think it made all the difference for the rest of the season, second because it made this year's beatdown all that more satisfying.

2) I generally like Kim Caldwell. When she started out at Rocky Top, I thought she presented herself very well. Given how young she is, I hope doesn't get too stubborn and begins to recognize that what worked at Glenville State & Marshall isn't going to cut it in the SEC, especially when all the teams have had a year to observe and now counteract her line change schemes.

There are so many things to consider about what has happened at Tennessee the past 3 games and Kim's reaction to it as seen in her widely criticized pressers.

Regardless of how frustrated or angry a coach might be, IMO it's generally counter-productive to throw the players under the bus. She been criticized for doing this after each of the past three losses but I really think that charge only stands up after the South Carolina game.

The question I want to raise is it is ever proper or smart to say what Kim said after yesterday's game? Is it ever justified to really blame your team?

My take of the UConn and South Carolina games is that her team totally gave up in the second halves. That is just so unacceptable. I don't recall any of our Big East opponents not playing hard up to final horn, regardless of how badly they were losing.

For all intents and purposed, players on major college sports teams are now professional athletes. Keeping in mind that in 2025, the average American salary was $63,000. The average NIL payment to the Lady Vols basketball team this year is $90,000. On top of that, there is house settlement money, the waiver of tuition, and for some of the players, separate NIL money earned from social media endorsements, etc.

When I worked in a supervisory role, I never tolerated my employees not working their hardest. On the rare occasions that I felt the need to say something, it was done privately. I only ended someone's employment twice - it was not a good feeling. But I had the luxury of being able to do that. I don't think college coaches can do that except under certain circumstances, such as with Ruby Whitehorn at the start of the season.
I've never been a coach, but I do have a large number of employees. It would never be a thought to throw an employee under the bus. The coach should have taken responsibility for the loss.
 
Before making my main point, I want to mention two biases that I have.

1) I am an one of those who hopes that Tennessee WCBB can regain it's footing. I believe that the growth of the game and public acceptance will be enhanced by legacy programs remaining or regaining top strength, which in the long run will make rivalry games more fun. TBH, though I hate it when we lose to Tenn, part of me is okay with last year's loss. First because I think it made all the difference for the rest of the season, second because it made this year's beatdown all that more satisfying.

2) I generally like Kim Caldwell. When she started out at Rocky Top, I thought she presented herself very well. Given how young she is, I hope doesn't get too stubborn and begins to recognize that what worked at Glenville State & Marshall isn't going to cut it in the SEC, especially when all the teams have had a year to observe and now counteract her line change schemes.

There are so many things to consider about what has happened at Tennessee the past 3 games and Kim's reaction to it as seen in her widely criticized pressers.

Regardless of how frustrated or angry a coach might be, IMO it's generally counter-productive to throw the players under the bus. She been criticized for doing this after each of the past three losses but I really think that charge only stands up after the South Carolina game.

The question I want to raise is it is ever proper or smart to say what Kim said after yesterday's game? Is it ever justified to really blame your team?

My take of the UConn and South Carolina games is that her team totally gave up in the second halves. That is just so unacceptable. I don't recall any of our Big East opponents not playing hard up to final horn, regardless of how badly they were losing.

For all intents and purposed, players on major college sports teams are now professional athletes. Keeping in mind that in 2025, the average American salary was $63,000. The average NIL payment to the Lady Vols basketball team this year is $90,000. On top of that, there is house settlement money, the waiver of tuition, and for some of the players, separate NIL money earned from social media endorsements, etc.

When I worked in a supervisory role, I never tolerated my employees not working their hardest. On the rare occasions that I felt the need to say something, it was done privately. I only ended someone's employment twice - it was not a good feeling. But I had the luxury of being able to do that. I don't think college coaches can do that except under certain circumstances, such as with Ruby Whitehorn at the start of the season.

saying that your team quit in a press conference is about the dumbest thing you can do as a coach
it’s an admission that the coaches failed and imho
coach caldwell is the one to has “quit”
on the team
The
repercussions on transfers ,recruiting
and the rest of the season will be interesting to see
 
She beat us last year. Maybe it IS the players. If you get the wrong kids, it is easy to lose the team.
 
Yes, but in a private converstion with the team. Not in public.
I agree. But if you take Caldwell at her word, she tried that approach. Hence my question - can things get so bad that a coach takes this drastic step?

Certainly, given the amount of media and social media coverage, public pushback from one of the team's parents, and the fact that Dawn even weighed in with some advice, what she did in the presser has to be considered epic.

It will be interesting to see how the season ends for them. Full tank mode, rally to the flag, or roller coaster!
 
.-.
If Caldwell felt that way, then sit the problem players to the bench and play the ones still engaged and willing to put some heart into it. That would have at least gained the respect of the players, might then keep some of the freshman and incoming recruits. But no, blame the players in public but take no actions is the sign of a weak coach. That isn’t even addressing the rotating players every few minutes. What high level player wants to play in that system.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
166,995
Messages
4,502,242
Members
10,375
Latest member
dr...


Top Bottom