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Watching Missouri vs Tennessee. Missouri doesn't have anyone with quickness and they struggle just to pass to one another. Just awful.
 
Are you watching this fiasco too? one of the announcers described it as 'a battle of wills'. All I could think of was that she was talking about the fans who wanted to go running from the arena to find a pickup game to watch in the parking lot. Both teams have been bad, but Missouri's phony 13-0 start is being exposed big time.
 
Frodo said:
Are you watching this fiasco too? one of the announcers described it as 'a battle of wills'. All I could think of was that she was talking about the fans who wanted to go running from the arena to find a pickup game to watch in the parking lot. Both teams have been bad, but Missouri's phony 13-0 start is being exposed big time.
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I got a huge chuckle from one of the broadcasters when she said there are no nights off in the SEC.
 
It sure is a mess. The game I mean. Tennessee has 9 total field goals but is winning because Missou isn't quick enough to defend, or smart enough to play better team defense, so they are fouling.

Tenn has taken 21 FT's to Missou's 4...

Side note - I see no improvement in Tenn since the highly publicized team meeting combined with the ban on social media for the players. Missou is just plain bad so Tenn should easily out-talent them for the win. To be fair, though, I think Nared is a nice addition to the starting lineup...
 
Tennessee is using their athleticism against Missouri. If only they can make a shot.
 
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It is interesting because it is not just voters who put Missouri in the top 25 - both Sagarin (#20) and Massey (#13!!!) have them ranked even while recognizing the dreadful schedule they have played. Logarithms can create strange results when there is so much disparity in quality of competition and so few common opponents.

Missouri is the only team in Gagarin's top 50 to have not played at least one team in the top 50.
 
Missouri isn't a terrible team, they just haven't played anybody with a pulse really. Their ranking is a little misleading though, they haven't faced anywhere near the athleticism they'll see in conference play. I still think any team that shoots the three as well as Missouri (not tonight obviously) is a tough out.
 
SCGamecock said:
Missouri isn't a terrible team, they just haven't played anybody with a pulse really. Their ranking is a little misleading though, they haven't faced anywhere near the athleticism they'll see in conference play. I still think any team that shoots the three as well as Missouri (not tonight obviously) is a tough out.
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Most players have to get open to shoot 3's. I see utterly no evidence that Missouri's 3 pt. shooters can get open against any decent team.
 
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The only thing on Missouri that impresses me is Sophie Cunningham's potential. She's really struggled tonight but you can tell there is talent there. But yeah, Missouri is nowhere near good enough to be a top 25 team just based on watching them tonight.
 
The crazy thing about this game, TN hasn't made beating them look easy and if Mizzou had gone to the rim more they could've kept it closer. If you spread TN out they will give you the lane. Mizzou kept working the motion offense looking for three but were pretty easily getting into the lane and then just standing there pivoting. If anyone on Mizzou had a midrange this one would have gone down to the wire. Tennessee does have a way of making winning look hard though.
 
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It's obviously all about matchups and what team shows up on gameday but after watching Missouri play Tennessee I'm less concerned about our game versus the tigers on Sunday. I still expect to get Missouri's best shot, whatever that may be.
 
Missouri normally shoots a lot of threes. Tonight they were 2 for 21.
 
Not the prettiest of games, but Tennessee is definitely trending upward. A 16 point road win against a 13-0 Mizzou team is a good result no matter how cleanly the game is played.

Tennessee in the early part of the year had close wins against mediocre teams (Penn State, Syracuse, Witchita State, Albany and UT Chat), and lost by double digits to Stanford/Texas/Virginia Tech. Since the Stanford loss, they had a huge win against Oregon State, blew out Stetson and just beat a 13-0 Mizzou team. They aren't the best team and they don't play a pretty brand of basketball, but they have played much better basketball the last 3 games and it looks like this team moving in a good direction where earlier this year I wasn't even confident Tennessee was a tournament team while watching some of their games.
 
They shot a lot of threes tonight. They just missed most of them.
 
That was one sloppy ugly game. But then most TENN games are like that. They need them to be for the best chance of winning.
 
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UcMiami said:
It is interesting because it is not just voters who put Missouri in the top 25 - both Sagarin (#20) and Massey (#13!!!) have them ranked even while recognizing the dreadful schedule they have played. Logarithms can create strange results when there is so much disparity in quality of competition and so few common opponents.

Missouri is the only team in Gagarin's top 50 to have not played at least one team in the top 50.
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The primary reason I wanted to watch this game was to get a look at Missouri given their Massey/Sagarin ratings. You're right of course that the disparity in quality and lack of common opponents can produce some pretty weird results, especially early in the season, but I confess to being shocked at how a team as woeful as Missouri could have achieved such lofty ratings. Just based on the eye test I'm hard pressed to conclude that Missouri is even a top 50 team, let alone top 25.
 
Farney said:
The only thing on Missouri that impresses me is Sophie Cunningham's potential. She's really struggled tonight but you can tell there is talent there. But yeah, Missouri is nowhere near good enough to be a top 25 team just based on watching them tonight.
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I'LL BE IMPRESSED WHEN SHE LEARNS HOW TO WEAR A BASKETBALL UNIFORM. (the rolled-up waistband AND the tied-up bottoms are ridiculous.)
 
We made a poor showing against TN. I was disappointed with us not being able to handle TN's press and by the fact that we continued to try to rely on lay-ups and 3's and ignore the numerous mid-range jumpers that were available. (Apparently, Sophie doesn't care for the ridiculous MI fab five uniform that for some unknown reason everyone has worn for 20+ years.)
 
UT 8 assists for the game.
MO 9 assists for the game

Neither team will win against top teams.
 
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I watched the game, and I have to say I was impressed by Tennessee's defense. Their offense is nothing special, even with all the talent, but I don't think UConn could have done a much better defensive job against Missouri than Tennessee did. Even on good cuts to the basket by Missouri, no one was open for more than a split second. That also reflects the team's basic athletic talent, but also a good level of hustle and intensity on defense. That (along with rebounding) is what Tennessee has always been good at, and they still are.

The 2-21 3-point shooting by Missouri had a whole lot to do with Tennessee's defensive pressure.
 
“Separate yourself by how you play, not by how you look.”
 
Gotta say I side with Sophie. Obviously tucking the shorts in to your spandex looks bad but can't Nike make a few pairs of shorts that don't cover the knees for players who want them?
 
It used to be that the shorts were made short and tight and if you want to stand out you had to find a XXL pair so that you could wear them long and baggy. Now, they're made long and you have to roll them up so that you can wear them short.

Trends are a funny thing. More and more girls are wearing the shorts short again.
 
Fashion report: ;)
I think that this years UConn uniforms have shorts that are a bit shorter and also appear less baggy - a much nicer look to me.
I can understand rolling the waistband - being shortwaisted I have had to do this to keep the waistband from being up under the bra or the crotch halfway to my knees, though I suspect it is less of a problem for college BB players! But the bunching of the bottom of the shorts? :eek: They look like bloomers! Just not done, my dear...

I'm also a bit surprised there is not an NCAA rule against some of the modifications as they seem pretty picky about some aspects.
 
JoePgh said:
I watched the game, and I have to say I was impressed by Tennessee's defense. Their offense is nothing special, even with all the talent, but I don't think UConn could have done a much better defensive job against Missouri than Tennessee did. Even on good cuts to the basket by Missouri, no one was open for more than a split second. That also reflects the team's basic athletic talent, but also a good level of hustle and intensity on defense. That (along with rebounding) is what Tennessee has always been good at, and they still are.

The 2-21 3-point shooting by Missouri had a whole lot to do with Tennessee's defensive pressure.
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Is it Tennessee's defense or Missouri's poor offense. My sense is that it's some of both, but more due to Missouri's lack of quickness, poor spacing and bad offensive execution. I turned the game off in the 3rd quarter, but I honestly can't recall a single decent Missouri screen and their ball movement seemed to be very slow and deliberate. Maybe my old eyes are playing tricks on me and it was Tennessee's "astounding" quickness, but I'm think... no.
 
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