In-State Recruiting is a MUST for Success

[Duncan Idaho]

Not one kid since Nadzak was here? Sounded proud of it. Got his nose up his arse.

 

[businesslawyer]

Out of curiosity, if we had been able to land 16 if the top 18 in state prospects each of the past five recruiting classes (assuming each also redshirted one year, making this nearly the entirety of the roster) how good does anyone think the program would be?

I love the idea that we are mending fences in state but to think any year that we should offer more than a few scholarships to Connecticut kids would be anything other than an exception is ridiculous.

This, Is it necessary? No. But would it make life easier? Yes, of course it was.

 

[HuskyFan16]

Zerg?

Kid strikes me as can’t play at fbs speed. He, by far, had best arm. But, he had no poise under pressure.

IMO, he never showed he deserved to Start. Just couldn’t handle game speed.

I like Tyler Phommachanh the best, and it wasn’t close even though he was the third best thrower.

Also, if you can’t block you need guys with running ability who can create runs, or extend plays and throw for big plays. No more pro-style qbs. Too hard a position to play these days.

I think this was Dan’s point precisely. If we could all see that, how couldn’t Edsall? And if he did, what was the purpose of obstinacy and sticking with JZ?

As Dan said you can’t be a former QB and be that wrong about what the position requires in the current era.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

That’s interesting. Tyler Van Dyke never played for a CIAC sponsored school team so he’s not from CT?

He’s not from Suffield as most articles would lead you to believe. Are you saying he didn’t attend Glastonbury High his freshman year?

 

[CONN78SEJ]

I think this was Dan’s point precisely. If we could all see that, how couldn’t Edsall? And if he did, what was the purpose of obstinacy and sticking with Jack Zergiotis?

As Dan said you can’t be a former QB and be that wrong about what the position requires in the current era.

Edsall did see it. Jack was his big recruit, plain and simple. Krajewski was not, Lashlee recruited SK. Pomachanh was not highly recruited at all, but to Edsall’s credit he did see that the kid had FBS potential in a spread type offense which Edsall hated playing. So Edsall’s warped depth chart ended up being #1 JZ, #2 everyone else.

 

[businesslawyer]

Edsall did see it. Jack was his big recruit, plain and simple. Krajewski was not, Lashlee recruited Steven Krajewski. Pomachanh was not highly recruited at all, but to Edsall’s credit he did see that the kid had FBS potential in a spread type offense which Edsall hated playing. So Edsall’s warped depth chart ended up being #1 Jack Zergiotis, #2 everyone else.

Edsall failed in his second stint, and JZ didn’t play nearly well enough this year. But I can’t be the only person who remembers him having some very good games at home two years ago as a true fresh.

 

[businesslawyer]

Lou Marinelli's comments about not recommending UConn to kids hits me the wrong way. His school and community benefited from state funding, but he is so much bigger than that he could steer kids away from the state school?

LOL at New Canaan benefitting from state funding.

But I don’t disagree that Fairfield County football coaches thinking they should be dealing with Edsall as equals says more about them than it did about Edsall.

 

[noeynox]

Edsall failed in his second stint, and Jack Zergiotis didn’t play nearly well enough this year. But I can’t be the only person who remembers him having some very good games at home two years ago as a true fresh.

Very good games? He showed some flashes cause he does have a strong arm but his throwing mechanics and feet are so bad he would never do well without a great oline. The head coach should see that.

 

[Waquoit]

LOL at New Canaan benefitting from state funding.

But I don’t disagree that Fairfield County football coaches thinking they should be dealing with Edsall as equals says more about them than it did about Edsall.

1. What are you LOLing? Are you saying they don't?
2. Totally correct about the HS coaches. If only they were as good at developing players as they are giving each other awards.

 

[businesslawyer]

1. What are you LOLing? Are you saying they don't?

I’m not a fan of New Canaan. But they contribute way, way more than their share of revenue to state coffers through income tax payments and take out way, way less than their share of payments from Hartford because they are a wealthier town.

Do they cash checks when sent? Of course. But we can’t consistently talk about how much more CT contributes to the federal government, while red states take, and then not think the same dynamics are at work within our (and most other) states.

 

[Waquoit]

But we can’t consistently talk about how much more CT contributes to the federal government, while red states take, and then not think the same dynamics are at work within our (and most other) states.

Yeah, we can. Comparing 50 geographic entities spread over a continent to 169 spread over a tiny fraction of that? As if the problems in cities aren't state problems? False equivalence.

 

[uconndogs]

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But I don’t disagree that Fairfield County football coaches thinking they should be dealing with Edsall as equals says more about them than it did about Edsall.

I totally agree with this. If a HS coach has the best interest of his kids as a priority he maintains a relationship and a dialogue with State U. That relationship may be valuable for some of the kids going through that HS program. If State U's coaches tell a HS coach that a kid isn't a good fit, then a HS coach needs to accept and respect that decision, even if they don't necessarily agree with it. Shunning Edsall feels like a whole bunch of bruised egos to me......and I'm sure Edsall was not the easiest guy to deal with, but that's really besides the point imo.

 

[JMick]

I totally agree with this. If a HS coach has the best interest of his kids as a priority he maintains a relationship and a dialogue with State U. That relationship may be valuable for some of the kids going through that HS program. If State U's coaches tell a HS coach that a kid isn't a good fit, then a HS coach needs to accept and respect that decision, even if they don't necessarily agree with it. Shunning Edsall feels like a whole bunch of bruised egos to me......and I'm sure Edsall was not the easiest guy to deal with, but that's really besides the point imo.

high school football coaches are some of the most ego-centric and insufferable people in the world.

 

[noeynox]

high school football coaches are some of the most ego-centric and insufferable people in the world.

Then they met their equal in Edsall.

 

[businesslawyer]

Yeah, we can. Comparing 50 geographic entities spread over a continent to 169 spread over a tiny fraction of that? As if the problems in cities aren't state problems? False equivalence.

O.K. I will avoid attaching an adjective to that theory. I will simply say I disagree.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Yeah, we can. Comparing 50 geographic entities spread over a continent to 169 spread over a tiny fraction of that? As if the problems in cities aren't state problems? False equivalence.

Actually, the entire problem with CT is this dynamic. some people act as if the state doesn’t exist. As if new Canaan doesn’t have a material interest in the success of Bridgeport and New Haven.

so, from my own area, since Farmington is great I should ignore bristol, Hartford and new Britain Issues?

should west Hartford do policies that hurt east Hartford and Hartford? It is insane.

insane when you think about the lack of regional cooperation. That is one of the biggest issues with the states development.

 

[Matt '99]

 

[DoctorWho85]

Why is it that we need to recruit D'D'Oh? How many players have come through the program since the FBS move have come from D'D'Oh? I'd say DC, MD and VA are more important than OH.

Some of the best Olinemen come out of the Midwest specifically OH.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Very good games? He showed some flashes cause he does have a strong arm but his throwing mechanics and feet are so bad he would never do well without a great oline. The head coach should see that.

You can get away with bad mechanics if you know how and have a good offensive line. Billy Kilmer did, threw that wobbly crap for years.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

I’m not a fan of New Canaan. But they contribute way, way more than their share of revenue to state coffers through income tax payments and take out way, way less than their share of payments from Hartford because they are a wealthier town.

Do they cash checks when sent? Of course. But we can’t consistently talk about how much more CT contributes to the federal government, while red states take, and then not think the same dynamics are at work within our (and most other) states.

Same for Fairfield Prep, Darien and Greenwich.

 

[businesslawyer]

Same for Fairfield Prep, Darien and Greenwich.

Fairfield Prep isn’t a public school. What the heck does your point even mean?

 

[businesslawyer]

Actually, the entire problem with CT is this dynamic. some people act as if the state doesn’t exist. As if new Canaan doesn’t have a material interest in the success of Bridgeport and New Haven.

so, from my own area, since Farmington is great I should ignore bristol, Hartford and new Britain Issues?

should west Hartford do policies that hurt east Hartford and Hartford? It is insane.

insane when you think about the lack of regional cooperation. That is one of the biggest issues with the states development.

Fully agree. Just like we in CT have an interest in how folks in Alabama are treated.

I’m not arguing that those with have an interest and a duty to help those without. I am saying that there are parallels between the municipality/state relationship and the state/national relationship.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Fairfield Prep isn’t a public school. What the heck does your point even mean?

Uh……I don’t know what you mean either counselor, I never made any distinction between public and private schools. St Joe’s, Xavier, Fairfield Prep, Trinity Catholic, Notre Dame of Fairfield, are all private schools in conferences that are mixtures of public and private. All are recognized by the CIAC, and pay taxes of some sort, either directly or indirectly.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Fully agree. Just like we in CT have an interest in how folks in Alabama are treated.

I’m not arguing that those with have an interest and a duty to help those without. I am saying that there are parallels between the municipality/state relationship and the state/national relationship.

We absolutely have an interest in how Alabama folks are treated. If we didn’t, there would still be Jim Crow.

We are either one nation, or not. One state or not. We can’t hide, like nutmeggers like to do, in our Kerry fiefdoms town and as long as our mill rates are fine assume nothing else is our problem. Hasn’t served this state well. Way too much in cooperation between towns.