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In Retrospect Was Leaving the AAC for the New Big East the Best Move?

Waquoit said:
Don't forget that lacrosse is a lousy sport mostly played for the benefit of white kids. Hard pass.
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Doesn’t UCONN sponsor an equestrian team?

the Big East is far better for geography, basketball, m&w soccer, m&w lacrosse, m&w cross country. Far worse in baseball and probably track & field and golf if I had to guess.

Georgetown has one of the better sailing programs in the country with multiple national championships should UCONN go in that direction as another poster mentioned. The conferences we are in for rowing are ones that UCONN would love to be in.

I’m hopeful you guys get the fiscal side of the house in order and happy to have you back.
 
Drew said:
The move absolutely hurts the baseball team from a competition standpoint. I’m not pretending UConn didn’t make the right move for the school as a whole but the AAC is regularly a top 4 baseball league with multiple top 25 teams. The Big East is a 1 bid league.
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I agree about the conference competition, the point I made is that the move isn't costing us any baseball recruits so I don't think there is any harm to the quality of the team.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
If the UConn Foundation were doing its job, lacrosse fans in CT could help finance a varsity men's team at UConn. Sailing is in the same boat. But it would be even cheaper to fund a more competitive program in sailing. New England colleges have some of the best sailors in the US. URI, Conn College, Coast Guard, Yale, etc. are excellent and it would not take much money for UConn to push up the ranks.
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how ironic that this year's and the 2022 NCAA Lacrosse Final Four/Championship is at the Rent
 
husky8273 said:
how ironic that this year's and the 2022 NCAA Lacrosse Final Four/Championship is at the Rent
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Ironic...there is a good chance that one of these men's lacrosse teams... Duke #1, UNC #3, Notre Dame #4, Virginia #6, or Cuse #9 will be in that group.....

....maybe could meet Georgetown.
 
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billybud said:
Ironic...there is a good chance that one of these men's lacrosse teams... Duke #1, UNC #3, Notre Dame #4, Virginia #6, or Cuse #9 will be in that group.....

....maybe could meet Georgetown.
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Denver 5, Georgetown 10, Villanova 20

three Big East members ranked.
 
Waquoit said:
Don't forget that lacrosse is a lousy sport mostly played for the benefit of white kids. Hard pass.
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I know (hope) you're just being facetious here but isn't Jim Brown at Cuse considered the GOAT in this sport? Besides lax is expanding everywhere but mostly in the NE. Would make sense for UConn to invest and get in early.
 
Dean Wormer said:
I know (hope) you're just being facetious here but isn't Jim Brown at Cuse considered the GOAT in this sport? Besides lax is expanding everywhere but mostly in the NE. Would make sense for UConn to invest and get in early.
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Men's Lacrosse...Last 20 Champions

Syracuse (5)..........2000, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2009
Virginia (4)..............2003, 2006, 2011, 2019
J. Hopkins (2).........2005, 2007
Duke (2)..................2010, 2013

Yale..........2018
UNC.........2016
Denver.....2015
Loyola......2012
Princeton..2001
 
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Dean Wormer said:
I know (hope) you're just being facetious here but isn't Jim Brown at Cuse considered the GOAT in this sport? Besides lax is expanding everywhere but mostly in the NE. Would make sense for UConn to invest and get in early.
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Name another guy since Jim over 60 years ago. Here's the story of another Cuse lacrosse player. Let's face it, it's a sport for guys who can't make the basketball team.
 
billybud said:
Men's Lacrosse...Last 20 Champions

Syracuse (5)..........2000, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2009
Virginia (4)..............2003, 2006, 2011, 2019
J. Hopkins (2).........2005, 2007
Duke (2)..................2010, 2013

Yale..........2018
UNC.........2016
Denver.....2015
Loyola......2012
Princeton..2001
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You shorted Duke and left out Maryland
 
Zissou said:
You shorted Duke and left out Maryland
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I did indeed..make it 3 for Duke..

and add Maryland to the list of one offs.

That makes it Cuse (5), Virginia (4) and Duke (3) as the top three in Championships of the last twenty.
 
billybud said:
I did indeed..make it 3 for Duke..

and add Maryland to the list of one offs.

That makes it Cuse (5), Virginia (4) and Duke (3) as the top three in Championships of the last twenty.
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No surprise on that tally.

maryland has been very good, but only one title.
 
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I had watched Creek and Miccosukee/Seminole traditional ball games...kind of a cross between Lacrosse and a bar fight.
 
Dean Wormer said:
I know (hope) you're just being facetious here but isn't Jim Brown at Cuse considered the GOAT in this sport? Besides lax is expanding everywhere but mostly in the NE. Would make sense for UConn to invest and get in early.
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Lacrosse’s history is Native American and it is still important to current Native American culture.
 
Just north of Atlanta is the town of Ball Ground....where the Cherokee once played ball....after pushing the Creek out of the area.

My wife is in the genealogical line from Nancy Ward (Nanyehi)..the Beloved Woman of the Cherokee who picked up her husband's rifle when he was killed and continued the battle against the Creek....near Ball Ground.
 
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I have wondered why the Northeast and Midwest (other than Notre Dame) have not had a Woman's Soccer Champion...you would think that talent would be there.

And if it was the weather...how does that account for the Irish, perched up there near Lake Michigan, winning 2 of the last twenty.

Why Field Hockey and not Soccer?
 
billybud said:
Men's Lacrosse...Last 20 Champions

Syracuse (5)..........2000, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2009
Virginia (4)..............2003, 2006, 2011, 2019
J. Hopkins (2).........2005, 2007
Duke (2)..................2010, 2013

Yale..........2018
UNC.........2016
Denver.....2015
Loyola......2012
Princeton..2001
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Syracuse is winning championships? That alone is reason enough to invest in that sport to deny them anymore.
 
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billybud said:
I have wondered why the Northeast and Midwest (other than Notre Dame) have not had a Woman's Soccer Champion
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I don’t know other than because winning national championships is a hard thing to do. UConn has lost in the championship game four times, so they’ve been close but haven’t quite been able to get there.
 
Waquoit said:
UConn is closer to joining a P5 conference now than they were a year ago. The home games are better in FB and BB. As a fan, it seems like the right call more and more everyday. A no-brainer, even.
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LOL. BC is still the same distance away.
 
dbmill said:
This comes up every once in a while. It's a simple matter of money. UConn doesn't have the funds for it at this time, not with the athletic department running the large yearly deficits that it does. If some big donor wants to bankroll men's lacrosse at UConn, then I would think the athletic department would be rather happy to have the sport.

Anyway, It took UConn many, many years to build new facilities for baseball, soccer, and softball, and they still have to build a new hockey facility. Can't see the UConn athletics money crunch clearing up anytime soon for them to get around to adding additional sports, at least not without some sort of big time donor who is big into that particular sport.
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Lacrosse is the hockey of the mid-Atlantic. Outside of that area nobody much cares. Of a few Northeast schools play for reasons of history or because it can be done on the cheap, or in the case of the Ivies because it appeals to their demographic. But nobody particularly cares outside the Carolina to DC area, and the occasional outlier like Syracuse. A few years ago I looked at attendance. UMass was coming off a deep NCAA run. Nobody. Yale crickets, PC rats. Fairfield in the heart of Connecticut’s lacrosse belt, nothing. Just like the NCAA playing it’s hockey championships in Tampa, St Louis or Pittsburgh, it isn’t at Rentschler because of the crowds of locals. It is there because facilities are good, the cost prposal worked and support facilities work. It is assumed that these events will bring their own crowds.
 
freescooter said:
Lacrosse is the hockey of the mid-Atlantic. Outside of that area nobody much cares. Of a few Northeast schools play for reasons of history or because it can be done on the cheap, or in the case of the Ivies because it appeals to their demographic. But nobody particularly cares outside the Carolina to DC area, and the occasional outlier like Syracuse. A few years ago I looked at attendance. UMass was coming off a deep NCAA run. Nobody. Yale crickets, PC rats. Fairfield in the heart of Connecticut’s lacrosse belt, nothing. Just like the NCAA playing it’s hockey championships in Tampa, St Louis or Pittsburgh, it isn’t at Rentschler because of the crowds of locals. It is there because facilities are good, the cost prposal worked and support facilities work. It is assumed that these events will bring their own crowds.
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If you think upstate NY is an outlier to the lacrosse footprint, I don’t know what to say.
 
freescooter said:
Lacrosse is the hockey of the mid-Atlantic. Outside of that area nobody much cares. Of a few Northeast schools play for reasons of history or because it can be done on the cheap, or in the case of the Ivies because it appeals to their demographic. But nobody particularly cares outside the Carolina to DC area, and the occasional outlier like Syracuse. A few years ago I looked at attendance. UMass was coming off a deep NCAA run. Nobody. Yale crickets, PC rats. Fairfield in the heart of Connecticut’s lacrosse belt, nothing. Just like the NCAA playing it’s hockey championships in Tampa, St Louis or Pittsburgh, it isn’t at Rentschler because of the crowds of locals. It is there because facilities are good, the cost prposal worked and support facilities work. It is assumed that these events will bring their own crowds.
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Zissou said:
If you think upstate NY is an outlier to the lacrosse footprint, I don’t know what to say.
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Also, a fair amount of the Syracuse student body comes from the New York City area and Long Island. Long Island is a huge lacrosse breeding ground. I lived on Long Island from kindergarten through the 7th grade, and when you see kids bringing lacrosse sticks onto a school bus, you know something must be up even when you yourself have no exposure to the sport. I never saw that happen after we moved to Connecticut.

One of the funniest things I recall from gym class during my time on Long Island was when I was in 7th grade, and the gym teachers during gym class taught their students how to play lacrosse and how to handle lacrosse sticks.
 
dbmill said:
Also, a fair amount of the Syracuse student body comes from the New York City area and Long Island. Long Island is a huge lacrosse breeding ground. I lived on Long Island from kindergarten through the 7th grade, and when you see kids bringing lacrosse sticks onto a school bus, you know something must be up even when you yourself have no exposure to the sport. I never saw that happen after we moved to Connecticut.

One of the funniest things I recall from gym class during my time on Long Island was when I was in 7th grade, and the gym teachers during gym class taught their students how to play lacrosse and how to handle lacrosse sticks.
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Upstate also has its homegrown talent, and it’s at all college levels. Cuse, Ithaca, Cortland, Hobart, Nazareth, Colgate, Le Moyne... not to mention it’s Iroquois history.
 
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