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Message: [QUOTE="HuskylnSC, post: 3402315, member: 7953"] could it be a difference in the NCAA and FIBA rules. The way I understand the NCAA rule is the ball must be out of the player's hand before the pivot foot leaves the ground. But I googled around and found this on the FIBA rules for 2018; A player who catches the ball while he is progressing, or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball: ▬ [U]If, after receiving the ball, a player shall release the ball to start his dribble before his second step. ▬ The first step occurs when one foot or both feet touch the floor after gaining control of the ball[/U]. ▬ The second step occurs after the first step when the other foot touches the floor or both feet touch the floor simultaneously The FIBA rule give the player a step before releasing the ball. Give me your thoughts rule mavens. [/QUOTE]