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Message: [QUOTE="intlzncster, post: 2266753, member: 56"] Yes. They've both made significant improvements since they earned their 'not so hot' reputations. Hyundai even helped lead some of the current wave in car design (style). Newer, Elantras/Sonatas are great. I feel like these cars are the new equivalent of 90s Corolla/Camry's, a more economical solid sedan--not that they'll last like those did (bulletproof), just that that is their place in the market. I can't speak to Kia specific models, as I've had zero personal experience, but I've heard good things about the Sportage. My dad owns a 5 year old Elantra that is a great car. Not many frills, but it's comfortable, drives nice, and has been very reliable. Only knock on that model is that it REQUIRES snow tires. Sucks without them. Also, since the rear of the car is designed so minimally, the vision through the blindspot windows isn't good. [/QUOTE]