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Message: [QUOTE="Fishy, post: 2266382, member: 38"] I have a long commute - I've driven about 40,000 miles a year for 20 years. Our hobbies and sports have us in the car for a few hundred miles most weekends. We have hit 200,000 miles on six cars. I also live in upstate New York, so snow is a regular occurrence. TL;DR - I drive more than you. I have owned four-wheel drive cars. With the mileage I drive and the mileage I put on cars, it is just an added bit of mechanical complexity that I do not need. I think 4WD has its function and I think it's helpful for some drivers in bad conditions. But, honestly, those people are probably better served just waiting out the snow storm. I see a lot of SUVs off the side of the road because the driver thought the 4WD badge on the back of their ute gave them superpowers. A high center of gravity and pillowy-soft sidewalls can turn a little wiggle into an offroad adventure on the Taconic Parkway. A front-wheel drive car with all-season tires in good shape is all I find that I need. I do have snow tires mounted on steel wheels that I'll slap on if it seems like the winter's going to be a rough one. Snow tires turn a good snow car into a freaking mountain goat. I have no use for an SUV, but I imagine a small Subaru with snow tires is probably as close to unstoppable as you can get on a snow-covered road. If you have tires at the end of their useful life, it doesn't matter whether you have four-wheel drive or not - you are a hazard on the road. Nothing will save a car on ice with no tread. Enjoy the guardrail. [/QUOTE]

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