I'm not surprised we lost tonight...

[shizzle787]

but I am surprised we got our doors blown off. We did absolutely nothing right tonight. We couldn't get open shots, our ball movement was garbage, and we didn't have an answer for Hopkins (don't tell me Johnson-he couldn't handle Stonehill).

I bought the hype after the 14-0 start that we were the best team in the country. We are not. Houston likely is, but we may have blown our realistic chance of getting a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. We are going to lose more games and if we lose just two more, a #1 seed is likely out of the question. We need an iso guy when we need a bucket and the ball movement is poor. I don't know if that is Hawkins or Newton, but we need to figure it out pronto. Our style works well if we get open a lot and take a lead. This team will not be able to come back from deficits. We need to figure it out.

 

[KingAG]

but I am surprised we got our doors blown off. We did absolutely nothing right tonight. We couldn't get open shots, our ball movement was garbage, and we didn't have an answer for Hopkins (don't tell me Johnson-he couldn't handle Stonehill).

I bought the hype after the 14-0 start that we were the best team in the country. We are not. Houston likely is, but we may have blown our realistic chance of getting a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. We are going to lose more games and if we lose just two more, a #1 seed is likely out of the question. We need an iso guy when we need a bucket and the ball movement is poor. I don't know if that is Hawkins or Newton, but we need to figure it out pronto. Our style works well if we get open a lot and take a lead. This team will not be able to come back from deficits. We need to figure it out.

We really needed a Stephon Castle reclass.

 

[husky429]

Clingan was a positive tonight. perfect from the floor, 12 points, 11 rebounds and 4 blocks in 21 minutes. Hawkins had a nice second half... Karaban could have had a nice game if we bothered to protect him on defense. Other than that? Not feeling so great tonight.

Coaching was better than X, but still not great. No adjustment on Hopkins AT ALL. Guards couldn't hit the backboard, let alone a shot. Just ugly.

 

[Glastonhusky]

how is it possible that they get EVERY single 50/50 ball? Some of them touch 3 or 4 of our guys before it ends up in their hands.

 

[shizzle787]

Clingan was a positive tonight. perfect from the floor, 12 points, 11 rebounds and 4 blocks in 21 minutes. Hawkins had a nice second half... Karaban could have had a nice game if we bothered to protect him on defense. Other than that? Not feeling so great tonight.

Coaching was better than X, but still not great. No adjustment on Hopkins AT ALL. Guards couldn't hit the backboard, let alone a shot. Just ugly.

I was only able to watch about 10 minutes of the Xavier game, but with the exception of the T, I think Hurley did a much better coaching job in Cincinnati. Tonight was embarrassing.

 

[husky429]

I was only able to watch about 10 minutes of the Xavier game, but with the exception of the T, I think Hurley did a much better coaching job in Cincinnati. Tonight was embarrassing.

Not playing Clingan more was coaching malpractice. I think it was his worst coached game since SJU Sanogo's freshman year.

 

[uconngb]

but I am surprised we got our doors blown off. We did absolutely nothing right tonight. We couldn't get open shots, our ball movement was garbage, and we didn't have an answer for Hopkins (don't tell me Johnson-he couldn't handle Stonehill).

I bought the hype after the 14-0 start that we were the best team in the country. We are not. Houston likely is, but we may have blown our realistic chance of getting a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. We are going to lose more games and if we lose just two more, a #1 seed is likely out of the question. We need an iso guy when we need a bucket and the ball movement is poor. I don't know if that is Hawkins or Newton, but we need to figure it out pronto. Our style works well if we get open a lot and take a lead. This team will not be able to come back from deficits. We need to figure it out.

#1seed??? Omg

People need to get real. If the season started w Conf play we’d probably be around 150 in the country. This is why I don’t understand the infatuation w rankings. Let your eyes be your judge.

 

[navery12]

I was only able to watch about 10 minutes of the Xavier game, but with the exception of the T, I think Hurley did a much better coaching job in Cincinnati. Tonight was embarrassing.

Tonight was significantly better, he got outcoached at Xavier and made no adjustments. He made adjustments tonight, even if it wasn't enough and we should have protected Karaban more. Tonight was on the awful execution by the players

 

[auror]

how is it possible that they get EVERY single 50/50 ball? Some of them touch 3 or 4 of our guys before it ends up in their hands.

We got a bunch throughout the game, especially on the glass in the 1st half, but the last 10 minutes they did get most of them.

 

[KingAG]

No one should be surprised we lost. We knew PC was a tough defensive minded team who doesn’t lose at home. We should all be surprised they completely outclassed us

 

[HuskyFich]

Clingan was a positive tonight. perfect from the floor, 12 points, 11 rebounds and 4 blocks in 21 minutes. Hawkins had a nice second half... Karaban could have had a nice game if we bothered to protect him on defense. Other than that? Not feeling so great tonight.

Coaching was better than X, but still not great. No adjustment on Hopkins AT ALL. Guards couldn't hit the backboard, let alone a shot. Just ugly.

Just curious, what adjustment would you make with our personnel.

Not trying to be funny. I really don’t know how to do it without going zone.

 

[husky429]

Just curious, what adjustment would you make with our personnel.

Not trying to be funny. I really don’t know how to do it without going zone.

Jackson needed to guard Hopkins from the tip. Protect Karaban on defense and his offense makes him an asset. Throwing him up against these athletic fours and letting them feast is 1) exhausting him and 2) killing his confidence. I said YESTERDAY (check my posts) that we shouldn't have Karaban on Hopkins. It was obvious and has been for weeks.

I liked the decision to try some double-big, but it doesn't work if Jackson is also in the game.

IMO we needed to play Clingan more minutes in the first half... but that's easy to say in hindsight.

 

[BigTenFan]

Looked like terrible court conditions for both teams- The court looked like a hockey rink with no grip.... luckily no one injured

 

[UCan3]

Tonight were were outhustled, out played and out willed but another team. There is nothing positive to take from tonight. Worst part is we looked resigned to our own fate and let it play out.

 

[AdamaNation]

Clingan was a positive tonight. perfect from the floor, 12 points, 11 rebounds and 4 blocks in 21 minutes. Hawkins had a nice second half... Karaban could have had a nice game if we bothered to protect him on defense. Other than that? Not feeling so great tonight.

Coaching was better than X, but still not great. No adjustment on Hopkins AT ALL. Guards couldn't hit the backboard, let alone a shot. Just ugly.

What was the Carmelo Anthony. I mean Hopkins adjustment? Double teaming in a game where the whistle was on autoblow?

 

[husky429]

What was the Carmelo Anthony. I mean Hopkins adjustment? Double teaming in a game where the whistle was on autoblow?

Put Jackson on him. Double from the baseline. Zone. Literally ANYTHING other than "try harder alex!"

It was obvious before tip-off that Karaban couldn't guard Hopkins and we did absolutely nothing to support him. We needed to put Jackson on him to start the game. It was clear as day.

 

[HuskyFich]

Jackson needed to guard Hopkins from the tip. Protect Karaban on defense and his offense makes him an asset. Throwing him up against these athletic fours and letting them feast is 1) exhausting him and 2) killing his confidence. I said YESTERDAY (check my posts) that we shouldn't have Karaban on Hopkins. It was obvious and has been for weeks.

I liked the decision to try some double-big, but it doesn't work if Jackson is also in the game.

IMO we needed to play Clingan more minutes in the first half... but that's easy to say in hindsight.

Doesn't this mean that Karaban would in turn be guarding Noah Locke?

If you have someone filling in the defensive help for Karaban at the 4, then Karaban cannot be on the floor. The 4 is literally the only position he "can" guard

 

[UCLJ0211]

Looked like terrible court conditions for both teams- The court looked like a hockey rink with no grip.... luckily no one injured

Ironic that an insurance company is the sponsor for the arena.

 

[husky429]

Doesn't this mean that Karaban would in turn be guarding Noah Locke?

If you have someone filling in the defensive help for Karaban at the 4, then Karaban cannot be on the floor. The 4 is literally the only position he "can" guard

He can trail a 3 point shooter. His issue is guarding the drive. Locke does not drive.

 

[uconnever]

He can trail a 3 point shooter. His issue is guarding the drive. Locke does not drive.

I think Hopkins would have just brought AJ in the post and ate him up. AJ is the man but he isn’t smart enough to be down there guarding Hopkins. He would have fouled out, real quick.

 

[lange10]

Jackson needed to guard Hopkins from the tip. Protect Karaban on defense and his offense makes him an asset. Throwing him up against these athletic fours and letting them feast is 1) exhausting him and 2) killing his confidence. I said YESTERDAY (check my posts) that we shouldn't have Karaban on Hopkins. It was obvious and has been for weeks.

I liked the decision to try some double-big, but it doesn't work if Jackson is also in the game.

IMO we needed to play Clingan more minutes in the first half... but that's easy to say in hindsight.

Agreed. Would also argue it won't work with Diarra, too. Newton, Joey C, and Hawkins paired with the double bigs if you're going to give it a go.

Shifting gears a bit, I'm not sure what Hurley sees in practice but I am perplexed that Newton leads us in MPG. I just... don't see it. Would love to see Hassan get a few of those minutes. I understand his shooting limitations but I think he brings a ton to the table besides that.

 

[jibsey]

BE early league projections (from “experts”) as to its quality was WRONG.

 

[husky429]

I think Hopkins would have just brought AJ in the post and ate him up. AJ is the man but he isn’t smart enough to be down there guarding Hopkins. He would have fouled out, real quick.

Andre is maybe the most talented and versatile defender in the country. Give me a break.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

No one should be surprised we lost. We knew PC was a tough defensive minded team who doesn’t lose at home. We should all be surprised they completely outclassed us

You were saying in the days before the game that this would be a bad loss

 

[BigTenFan]

Ironic that an insurance company is the sponsor for the arena.

You are right- I didn't consider that. Terrible floor conditions for elite athletes

 

[KingAG]

You were saying in the days before the game that this would be a bad loss

It’s is a bad loss. Have you read this board? It being a bad loss, and me not being surprised we did lose are not the same thing

 

[superjohn]

Jackson needed to guard Hopkins from the tip. Protect Karaban on defense and his offense makes him an asset. Throwing him up against these athletic fours and letting them feast is 1) exhausting him and 2) killing his confidence. I said YESTERDAY (check my posts) that we shouldn't have Karaban on Hopkins. It was obvious and has been for weeks.

I liked the decision to try some double-big, but it doesn't work if Jackson is also in the game.

IMO we needed to play Clingan more minutes in the first half... but that's easy to say in hindsight.

Amen.

To gameplan this game and decide you're putting Karaban on Hopkins is insane and somehow I kind of expected it.

We need to play Clingan more minutes every game.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Jackson needed to guard Hopkins from the tip. Protect Karaban on defense and his offense makes him an asset. Throwing him up against these athletic fours and letting them feast is 1) exhausting him and 2) killing his confidence. I said YESTERDAY (check my posts) that we shouldn't have Karaban on Hopkins. It was obvious and has been for weeks.

I liked the decision to try some double-big, but it doesn't work if Jackson is also in the game.

IMO we needed to play Clingan more minutes in the first half... but that's easy to say in hindsight.

Jackson with two four in four minutes?

 

[Edward Sargent]

Jackson with two four in four minutes?

I meant two fouls in four minutes

 

[superjohn]

Doesn't this mean that Karaban would in turn be guarding Noah Locke?

If you have someone filling in the defensive help for Karaban at the 4, then Karaban cannot be on the floor. The 4 is literally the only position he "can" guard

Yes. We both posted before the game you can't have Karaban on Hopkins and that Jackson should be on Hopkins with Karaban on Locke.