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Brad Palmer

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#'s 1, 2, 3 and 5 have all lost to unranked teams this week, so after we beat Georgetown...let's say it together: "We're # 1!"

Obviously would rather have that rank in April, but still would be a cool in-season honor. Now let's go take care of Mr. Ed on Sunday. Of course, of course.
 
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By NCAAF standards, we can't be #1 because we're missing our star center. Body of work is irrelevant, it's who's on the court. :p
Just playing around folks, save the hostilities for someone who deserves it. :D
 
Brad Palmer said:
#'s 1, 2, 3 and 5 have all lost to unranked teams this week, so after we beat Georgetown...let's say it together: "We're # 1!"

Obviously would rather have that rank in April, but still would be a cool in-season honor. Now let's go take care of Mr. Ed on Sunday. Of course, of course.
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If we're gonna compare him to equines, Cooley is more jackass than horse.
 
Brad Palmer said:
#'s 1, 2, 3 and 5 have all lost to unranked teams this week, so after we beat Georgetown...let's say it together: "We're # 1!"

Obviously would rather have that rank in April, but still would be a cool in-season honor. Now let's go take care of Mr. Ed on Sunday. Of course, of course.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I'd be shocked if we pass Purdue. I think number #2 is the most likely position if we get past big Ed
 
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Don't forget that Purdue (Penn State), Houston (@TCU) and Kansas (Oklahoma) will all have opportunities to win again before the next poll on Monday. Particularly for Houston and Kansas, since those would be Q1 wins, if they win those games on Saturday that might help them stay in front of UConn.
 
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Right now:

Purdue: 1566 (54)
Houston: 1486 (7)
Kansas: 1481 (2)
UConn: 1335 (0)

No on has UConn above 4 on their ballots. That will change, but it means we're not necessarily going to pick up a bunch of easy #1s on individual ballots.

3 voters have us #7, and UNC and Kentucky haven't lost, so you figure we're staying behind those two teams on those three ballots.

7 voters have us #6. In 6 of them, it's either Kentucky or UNC, so, again, we'll likely stay behind them. In one, it's both (they had Tennessee far lower).

Of the many voters that have us #5, most have Tennessee ahead of us. 4 have Kentucky ahead of us, 1 has Arizona, neither of whom have lost.

So I'd say of the 63 possible first place votes, we know for a fact that we aren't getting 15. For at least 4 ballots, we're highest #3. The odds that they'd jump their #7 team over a #1 team who lost is pretty low. Also, 4 -> 1 is a fairly large jump, especially since we didn't dominate that Xavier game.

My guess is some people will keep Purdue. Some analytic forward people will keep Houston. We'll move up across the board and have a range of votes ranging from 1-4 in voters. We may end up with the most #1 votes but end up #2 or even #3.

I'm beting UConn, Purdue, Houston, Kentucky, and UNC all get #1 votes.
 
We should be #1 if we beat Gtown, and if the Kansas, Purdue, and Houston loses were this weekend, I'd be more confident. But unfortunately there's time for the other teams to "recover", especially Kansas if they beat ranked Oklahoma, and the writers just have a stiffy for Purdue for some reason. So if they all win this weekend, it would be close, but I could see it end up Kansas 1, Purdue 2, UConn 3, Houston 4 (or maybe 3). I could also see them slipping UK and UNC into the top 5 too.
 
Objectively hard to justify putting us ahead of Kansas if both of us have the same amount of losses. I defend us in that game whenever I get the chance but in the end they have the W.
 
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UConn Esq said:
Objectively hard to justify putting us ahead of Kansas if both of us have the same amount of losses. I defend us in that game whenever I get the chance but in the end they have the W.
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It's not that hard. They beat UConn at home by 3. Great win for them, but not necessarily indicative that they are significantly better than UConn.

I do think it is possible UConn doesn't hit #1, but not because they don't jump Kansas. UCF is the worst loss of the trio, and the worst loss of the teams ranked 1-4. Kansas also has pretty bad advanced metrics for a team with 2 losses.
 
UConn Esq said:
Objectively hard to justify putting us ahead of Kansas if both of us have the same amount of losses. I defend us in that game whenever I get the chance but in the end they have the W.
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Nobody actually thinks Kansas is better than UConn. As my KU buddy said, "We played you guys at the perfect time in the perfect location." Kansas just lost to UCF, we're passing them.
 
I'm inclined to think we move up one spot, but I also find it tough to justify putting people above us given the streak that we are on. We probably would've helped our case for the number one slot if we didn't fall asleep for the last five minutes of last nights game. As long as we are ranked in the top four I'm content.
 
superjohn said:
Nobody actually thinks Kansas is better than UConn. As my KU buddy said, "We played you guys at the perfect time in the perfect location." Kansas just lost to UCF, we're passing them.
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I don’t circle many non-UConn games on my calendar, but OK at Kansas is definitely one I’ll be watching.

Can’t remember which postgame show it was but I was flipping around after our game and one of the talking heads made what I thought was a great point. KU has one of the best resumes in terms of wins against top teams this year (UConn, UK, Tenn.,) but they’ve also had a lot of really close ones against incredibly subpar competition. This type of loss has been coming for them, they’ve just staved it off for a while.

Teams are going to start following the cheat code and selling out to defend Hunter, Adams and McCullers and daring Jackson and Harris to beat them. It’s not gonna work every night but I don’t think this is the last head scratcher for KU this year, especially on the road in the B12.
 
UConn Esq said:
Objectively hard to justify putting us ahead of Kansas if both of us have the same amount of losses. I defend us in that game whenever I get the chance but in the end they have the W.
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It's actually quite easy to justify it, just look at any of the analytics rankings. Just make sure you scroll down far enough because that's where you'll have to go to find Kansas
 
Obviously everyone can talk about what they want, but to me this is not the right discussion coming off last night. The right discussion is that we're now 1/4 through the Big East schedule, having played to date without our 7'2" lottery pick, and having played 3 of 5 on the road, and we're still tied for first. One game ahead of Creighton and two ahead of Marquette. Looking at the schedule for the next 5, and assuming (conservatively I hope) that maybe we get DC back for the second half of the conference schedule, we have 3 games we should win at home, Creighton at home and at Nova. Win 1 of those 2, get to 8-2 in conference over the next 3 weeks, and enter the second half no worse than tied for first and ready to start putting all our weapons together for the stretch run.

Pollsters can do what they want. But last night's really strong performance given all the circumstances (and excluding that we decided to take a knee and run out the clock a minute too early, and didn't figure out that that strategy requires not fouling on defense) has put us in a strong position to finally win this damn conference.
 
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