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If We Were In a Better Conference

kobe said:
I didn't know I'd have to explain myself this much.

1. OP said he/she thought UConn would be like Louisville in old C-USA (implying they hoped to dominate the league)
2. I pointed out that Louisville actually wasn't that good in old C-USA (they were pretty average in league play throughout the decade of old C-USA)
3. Connecticut obviously has not been very good in league play in the American the past few years
4. Thus, if the goal was to be Louisville of the old C-USA, then UConn has met that expectation.
5. I hate Louisville so I couldn't help but make fun of them.
6. I love you guys.
7. That is all
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It's all good but be careful..... the next thing you'll be saying is Cronin is a better coach then KO and you'll see people like Mau and Stainmaster blame the conference...... and you'll be defending your self all over again.... HAHAHA
 
Zissou said:
The Flagship University of Rhode Island is up to 22 in this week's ranking. I think they are A10.
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But according to many many posters here Hurley is a terrible coach and the problem here is the conference..... I guess if you try following that idiotic logic the A-10 must be a much better conference than the AAC. And I thought most of the stupid people were in Florida... I guess I left a lot more than I thought back in CT. LOL
 
UConniki said:
But according to many many posters here Hurley is a terrible coach and the problem here is the conference..... I guess if you try following that idiotic logic the A-10 must be a much better conference than the AAC. And I thought most of the stupid people were in Florida... I guess I left a lot more than I thought back in CT. LOL
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Actually recruiting is the only problem. /s
 
Austin316 said:
Ah yes... buy him out right now do we can slip into ultimate doomage which I call, a black hole.
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No where did I say fire Ollie today. I don't think any reasonable argument can be made that ridding UConn of KO on 1/29 helps us for this year or next.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Right, and you posted "seems like you're meeting expectations". Which made the post sound like you agreed with the poster, because I don't think a single UConn fan believes we are currently meeting expectations.
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Come on, the guy was obviously trying to lighten things up by putting down Loserville. Think more so Memphis with Calamari was the star team in weaker league.
 
UConniki said:
But according to many many posters here Hurley is a terrible coach and the problem here is the conference..... I guess if you try following that idiotic logic the A-10 must be a much better conference than the AAC. And I thought most of the stupid people were in Florida... I guess I left a lot more than I thought back in CT. LOL
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Is there one person on this board that has called Hurley a terrible coach?
 
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Husky68 said:
Come on, the guy was obviously trying to lighten things up by putting down Loserville. Think more so Memphis with Calamari was the star team in weaker league.
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Relax. I was simply explaining how myself and others interpreted his post. He cleared it up and both of us have moved on, your turn.
 
Isn’t the AAC a top 5 or 6 conference? How many conferences are there in D1? 20?
 
WingU-Conn said:
Yes. @wtdmdcanibuyavowel
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I don't know what this means. Either way, it's not "many posters here" that think he's a terrible coach. I haven't seen any posts saying it, and while I'm not saying you're a liar, it's definitely not as widespread as Uconniki is saying.
 
jibsey said:
For all those who have said that CR has been the culprit of our downfall consider this: Pitt and St. John’s are a combined 0-19 in their conferences ACC and BE. I have watched both of those teams multiple times this year and though they have blowout losses they have also had competive losses against good teams, and I feel they are both better teams than we currently are. This not to say that they are good but how would we fare if we switched positions in their conferences? I fear that it could be worse than what it has been even though our OOC has been much stronger.
We are now the patsy on the AAC schedule for many teams right now and I did not see this coming a few years ago when I thought we would be the Memphis or the Louisville of old CUSA getting nearly automatic bids every year. No doubt we were hurt recruiting wise by the switch but the fact is that we aren’t treading water where we are.
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I think you should have titled your thread "If we were in a better conference AND had a better coaching staff". For example...."If we were in a better conference and Jim Calhoun was still our coach"....
 
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Rico444 said:
I don't know what this means. Either way, it's not "many posters here" that think he's a terrible coach. I haven't seen any posts saying it, and while I'm not saying you're a liar, it's definitely not as widespread as Uconniki is saying.
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No it's not, he's the only one I can think of who repeated craps on Hurley. I wasn't picking an argument, just pointing out the exception....
@Whtdmd whose handle I couldn't remember
 
CUSA would put a couple of teams in the tourney and usually Memphis was in every year. Most UConn fans thought we would dominate this league at the start and that has not proven true. We have been middle of the pack and trending downward. The coaching is bad I’ll give you but the recruiting of shooters is worse and today’s game requires the 3 no matter what conference a team is in.
 
kobe said:
I didn't know I'd have to explain myself this much.

1. OP said he/she thought UConn would be like Louisville in old C-USA (implying they hoped to dominate the league)
2. I pointed out that Louisville actually wasn't that good in old C-USA (they were pretty average in league play throughout the decade of old C-USA)
3. Connecticut obviously has not been very good in league play in the American the past few years
4. Thus, if the goal was to be Louisville of the old C-USA, then UConn has met that expectation.
5. I hate Louisville so I couldn't help but make fun of them.
6. I love you guys.
7. That is all
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Stop making me like Cincinnati. You're a monster.
 
polycom said:
Why do people repeat this over and over? This has been proven false multiple times.
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It's more coaching than recruiting, but you can't say recruiting hasn't been an issue, whether that's getting top talent, or just as importantly, identifying needs and recruiting those needs successfully.

We have no shooters currently on the roster. That's a recruiting issue. And we've had mediocre bigs for years, from prioritizing the wrong guys and not casting a deep enough net.
 
intlzncster said:
It's more coaching than recruiting, but you can't say recruiting hasn't been an issue, whether that's getting top talent, or just as importantly, identifying needs and recruiting those needs successfully.

We have no shooters currently on the roster. That's a recruiting issue. And we've had mediocre bigs for years, from prioritizing the wrong guys and not casting a deep enough net.
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If we got better players but our coaching continued to be poor we’d just create more Jalens..
 
Zissou said:
No, not in hoops.
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I think the AAC is ahead of the Pac 12 right now in bball, and i don't think the numbers put it that far behind a couple of the others ranked above it. A couple really bad programs at the bottom have been the distinguishing factor the past several years.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
No it's not, he's the only one I can think of who repeated craps on Hurley. I wasn't picking an argument, just pointing out the exception....
@Whtdmd whose handle I couldn't remember
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If u think a guy who haven't won a conference title in 8 yrs in two low to middle major league is a good coach; then I have a bridge to see u
 
polycom said:
If we got better players but our coaching continued to be poor we’d just create more Jalens..
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Give three 43% shooters, and we'd hit a lot more open shots. Which would make everyone look better. And probably win a few more games.
 
Whtdmd said:
If u think a guy who haven't won a conference title in 8 yrs in two low to middle major league is a good coach; then I have a bridge to see u
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he’d be favored by 8-10 points against UConn on a neutral court with that low to mid major team.
 
Lefty2one said:
We haven't had a fully-loaded, proper program since the sanctions in 2013. We've needed grad transfers and Plan C's to fill out the roster every year since then. We haven't gone through proper progressions and chemistry-building under Ollie's tenure; meaning a unit goes through growth like had with Rip & Co 1997 through their title win or Emeka/Ben & Co's growth from 2002 to the title in 2004. Recruiting is an issue, but to a much smaller extent than coaching is. Hell, when Alterique is healthy we have two 5-stars in our backcourt.

Alterique/Jalen/V. Jackson/Larrier/Enoch is enough talent to make the tournament. If we can keep kids here with halfway decent development and coaching then we'd be in an okay situation.
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I’ll keep Josh over Enoch every day of the year. Now. And next year he’ll be much improved and stronger.
 
Even the hole known as URI is #22, and please don't tell me they are getting the best recruits down in Kingston or in the A10. Witchita and Cincy in the top 20 tends to negate the inferior conference theory. The only thing inferior is our crappy coach.
 
Teams need to shoot the 3 well.

Teams need to defend the 3 well.

College basketball keys to success in 2018.

Unfortunately we are terrible at both.
 
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It's hard to say.

I think we're definitely in a much better place. I think people really shortchange the psychology of being left out of realignment, but more specifically - having so many valued rivals ripped away from us. No Villanova. No Syracuse. No Georgetown. No Pitt. Even with the lower dregs of the conference, they still drew well enough and traveled that there was history and interest in those games.

I'm not on board with the recuiting issues. I'm just not. We've taken a hit - for sure - but we're still recruiting well enough to be a consistent top 25 team every year and we almost run circles around everyone else in the conference. We should be better than we are.

We're probably in a better spot talent-wise, but with the coaching the way it's been - it's hard for me to envision it being demonstrably better from a results standpoint. The 15 team wasn't a tournament team. The 17 team had tournament caliber talent, but failed in every possible way. This team is a mess. 1 or 2 more talented kids help all those teams - but i'm not sure they help enough.

Where the big issue is - with revenue. Fans aren't interested in the match ups in this conference, even the better ones. And the big match ups don't travel. We play teams like Syracuse on neutral sites. It's hard to maintain that level of interest. So it's killed us at the gate. And then the TV revenue is absolutely a game changer - even if we were just in the new Big East. Figuring out what to do with Ollie wouldn't even be much of a concern. I don't think the buy out is as big a deal as people think it is - but it's certainly a non-factor if we're in a better conference.

So yeah - we're def. better off. But i'm not sure we're better off in the ways people think we are.
 
BlueDogs said:
Even the hole known as URI is #22, and please don't tell me they are getting the best recruits down in Kingston or in the A10. Witchita and Cincy in the top 20 tends to negate the inferior conference theory. The only thing inferior is our crappy coach.
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I would understand it if the argument is that the conference makes it harder to compete at the national level. I think there’s something to that.

But being in a crappy conference doesn’t explain why UConn can’t complete for titles for said crappy conference.
 
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