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If both the B1G and ACC wanted to add UCONN, which would you prefer and why?

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B1GOSU said:
From an all-sports perspective -

The B1G sponsors 28 conference sports. Of those 28, UConn sponsors 23. UConn also has a women's ice hockey team, which the B1G currently does not sponsor.

The sports UConn does not sponsor include:

Men's Sports - Gymnastics, Lacrosse, Wrestling
Women's Sports - Golf, Gymnastics

All 14 current B1G schools have wrestling teams and women's golf teams, so UConn would be an outlier there. For the other three sports, 7 sponsor men's gymnastics, 6 sponsor men's lacrosse, and 10 sponsor women's gymnastics.

For women's ice hockey, 4 B1G teams currently sponsor that sport, so the addition of UConn would leave the conference one team short of being able to sponsor that as a conference sport as well.

Sponsoring 23 B1G sports would tie UConn for 8th with Indiana out of the current 14 schools in the conference.

Here is a breakdown of how many of the 28 sports each B1G team sponsors.....

1. Ohio State - 28
1. Michigan - 28

3. Penn State - 27 (women's rowing)

4. Michigan State - 25 (men's gymnastics, men's lacrosse, women's lacrosse)

5. Iowa - 24 (men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, men's soccer, women's lacrosse)
5. Minnesota - 24 (men's lacrosse, men's soccer, women's field hockey, women's lacrosse)
5. Rutgers - 24 (men's gymnastics, men's ice hockey, men's swimming & diving, men's tennis)

8. Indiana - 23 (men's gymnastics, men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, women's gymnastics, women's lacrosse)

9. Wisconsin - 22 (men's baseball, men's gymnastics, men's lacrosse, women's field hockey, women's gymnastics, women's lacrosse)

10. Illinois - 21 (men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, men's soccer, men's swimming & diving, women's field hockey, women's lacrosse, women's rowing)
10. Nebraska - 21 (men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, men's soccer, men's swimming & diving, women's field hockey, women's lacrosse, women's rowing)

12. Purdue - 20 (men's gymnastics, men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, men's soccer, women's field hockey, women's gymnastics, women's lacrosse, women's rowing)
12. Maryland - 20 (men's cross country, men's gymnastics, men's ice hockey, men's swimming & diving, men's tennis, men's indoor track & field, women's rowing, women's swimming & diving)

14. Northwestern - 18 (men's cross country, men's gymnastics, men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, men's indoor track & field, men's outdoor track & field, women's gymnastics, women's rowing, women's indoor track & field, women's outdoor track & field)
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With the new budget B1G affiliation would bring, I'm sure we could find room to add a couple of more teams.
 
Calamitous said:
After thinking about it, I say an entirely new East Coast conference should be formed (call is the ECC??): CONNECTICUT, SYRACUSE, RUTGERS, PENN STATE, MARYLAND, WEST VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA TECH, NORTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA STATE, CLEMSON, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA TECH and FLORIDA STATE. Other than Syracuse, everyone is a State school. Mostly land grant and flagship schools with the exception of FSU and GT. UConn, SU and UNC are basketball powers. FSU and PSU are football powers. The majority of the remaining schools are very respectable in one or the other big revenue sports.

It will never happen, but I like the feel of my impossibly made-up conference. It relies on 3 schools defecting from the B1G, 1 school defecting from the SEC, 1 defecting from the B12 and 8 defecting from the ACC. OK, back to reality...
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That would be a fantastic conference ... as a fantasy, let's make it slightly more realistic by assuming that South Carolina stays in the SEC and just the northeastern teams are in play (supposing the Big East had brought in Penn State early as it should have, and then we form this out of ACC-Big East). Drop Syracuse too - Pitt would be better (state school, better academics, bigger market, WVU rivalry). Now we're down to 12 schools and it's still a great conference. Bench schools if the conference ever wanted to grow: Pitt, Duke, Miami, Cuse, BC, Wake, Cincy, L'ville, USF, UCF.
 
pj said:
That would be a fantastic conference ... as a fantasy, let's make it slightly more realistic by assuming that South Carolina stays in the SEC and just the northeastern teams are in play (supposing the Big East had brought in Penn State early as it should have, and then we form this out of ACC-Big East). Drop Syracuse too - Pitt would be better (state school, better academics, bigger market, WVU rivalry). Now we're down to 12 schools and it's still a great conference. Bench schools if the conference ever wanted to grow: Pitt, Duke, Miami, Cuse, BC, Wake, Cincy, L'ville, USF, UCF.
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I had SU in there to make my fantasy conference geographically contiguous like the B1G, SEC and PAC (plus I consider SU to be the Empire State's main university in terms of athletics). But if USC-east can't join, then definitely add Pitt. Duke, Wake, Miami, BC, UL, USF, UCF and Cincy can start their own conference or join the B12 :)
 
amory said:
The ACC. UConn belongs in the duckcking ACC culturally, geographically, and because we're a damn basketball school.

But it's a damn travesty that we're shut out from our brethren in the ACC. That should be our home.
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Keep the faith and thanks for still believing in the ACC. Yes, I agree that you should be in. You are East Coast and we are an Eastern conference.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
Keep the faith and thanks for still believing in the ACC. Yes, I agree that you should be in. You are East Coast and we are an Eastern conference.
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If you're an Eastern conference, why take a school from western Kentucky ahead of one of the East's / Atlantic coast's premier athletic programs? Not sure what the ACC's ambitions are, but they've moved on from the Atlantic coast/East coast identity.
 
The "Atlantic coast" now refers to what is east of the Mississippi.
 
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pj said:
If you're an Eastern conference, why take a school from western Kentucky ahead of one of the East's / Atlantic coast's premier athletic programs? Not sure what the ACC's ambitions are, but they've moved on from the Atlantic coast/East coast identity.
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Agreed I think some puzzling move's by Swoffy and southern brethern and lost any cache here in the NE!! Not seen as eastern by anybody but the few SU and BC fan's scattered here and there!! ACC is way behind the B1G PR wise.
 
I'd signed up for either in a nanosecond. If given the choice, the B1G - because of better long term stability. The ACC has better natural rivals, but also the greater risk that FL St/Clemson or some other school makes the leap to the SEC or whatever is hot 10 years from now. That said, it would be fun to be in the ACC and play spoiler to BC and Cuse.
 
pj said:
If you're an Eastern conference, why take a school from western Kentucky ahead of one of the East's / Atlantic coast's premier athletic programs? Not sure what the ACC's ambitions are, but they've moved on from the Atlantic coast/East coast identity.
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I agree that UConn would have been a much better addition than UL for many reasons. However, the PAC has Utah and Colorado in their conference, B12 has WVU and SEC has aTm which is "technically" southeast but stretching it (I would say Mizzou too, but I will give them that one). The B1G is really a Midwestern conference; and the additions of PSU and UMCP/RU recently, they are really outliers for their conference. Even Nebraska is starting to push a little far west, but I could buy the Nebraska addition if Kansas and Mizzou came with them. So the ACC adding a school from central Kentucky doesn't seem that far off when looking at the other conferences. The one I can't get over is that school that is nearly a suburb of Chicago.

All these P5 conferences have loss their sense of identity. Greed rules. As interesting as CR is, I really wish the conferences stayed the way they were (at 10 to 12 teams) with a few minor trades or tweaks; all while keeping the old Big East in the P5(6) mix.

And as for the ACC's ambitions... the UL move was to make FSU and Clemson happy, plain and simple. The irony, had UL been trumped by UConn, FSU and Clemson would still be in the ACC, but not happy.
 
Calamitous said:
And as for the ACC's ambitions... the UL move was to make FSU and Clemson happy, plain and simple. The irony, had UL been trumped by UConn, FSU and Clemson would still be in the ACC, but not happy.
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When UConn starts trumping Louisville on the football field, they'll still be unhappy, and so will UNC and UVa.
 
pj said:
When UConn starts trumping Louisville on the football field, they'll still be unhappy, and so will UNC and UVa.
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Maybe so with FSU and Clemson, but UVa and UNC would be happier with UConn because of academics, good Olympic sports and good basketball. As for football, UNC and UVa don't care. Never have and never will (even with some of their good football years).
 
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ImABeliever said:
I don't understand why you UConn fans seem to think Louisville's crappy in everything but football. The last time you beat us in football, it was because of a cheap shot that got flagged breaking Teddy's wrist! We won the 2013 National Men's Basketball title. Same year we were runners up in Women's Basketball and beat a Top10 Florida team in the Sugar Bowl. We also went to the College World Series. Quite frankly, if UConn was what you guys think you are, you'd be in. Instead of trying to be better overall, you're all too busy trying to talk smack about everyone else. It was that strategy that's left you guys on the outside looking in at the moment. I would rather have respectable conversations with you guys, honestly I would, but some of your fan base acts like you're Harvard in academics and Alabama in sports. You're not. You're just ....not.

There's a lot that I respect about UConn, but your behavior as a fan base is a detriment to your school and your image.
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Thanks for that, first-time poster. The beef that UCONN fans have with Louisville (and it is completely justified) is that the ACC didn't want to invite WVU because of academics. Then, they invited Louisville over UCONN. Louisville's academics are horrendous so please don't try to defend them.
 
Calamitous said:
Maybe so with FSU and Clemson, but UVa and UNC would be happier with UConn because of academics, good Olympic sports and good basketball. As for football, UNC and UVa don't care. Never have and never will (even with some of their good football years).
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I would think that, of all schools, that Clemson would value its association with the ACC since it is a long-time member. However, as we've seen with Maryland, it doesn't really matter all that much.
 
Calamitous said:
Maybe so with FSU and Clemson, but UVa and UNC would be happier with UConn because of academics, good Olympic sports and good basketball. As for football, UNC and UVa don't care. Never have and never will (even with some of their good football years).
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What I meant was that Louisville will probably start reverting to the mean in college athletics, while UConn will continue to improve (especially in football) as it learns how to exploit a northeast that is under-exploited in college athletics. As UConn demonstrates better results than Louisville in all sports including football, the ACC will get a bad case of buyer's remorse.
 
ImABeliever said:
The problem is that they're NOT entirely horrendous, and that they're rapidly improving. This is something the ACC took note of. The improvements on campus just since I was there in '05 have been staggering and breath taking. I don't really expect anyone from the state of Connecticut to know that because, well, why would you? A person from Connecticut is as likely to consider Louisville as a person from Kentucky is to consider UConn. I get it. But that doesn't make it less so. WVU had other issues, namely the absolutely deplorable behavior of their fans and the fact that they're even more of a one trick pony than UConn that hurt their chances with the ACC. The academics were an excuse. It could even be argued that their bloggers spouting off nonsense pushed the ACC toward signing a GOR (though personally, I think that's giving WVU fans too much credit).

Louisville's budget dwarfs anyone else's in the AAC, and we top the charts of the public universities in the ACC as well. I know UConn fans will say it's because we "cook the books" or however you try and justify it, but as they say...numbers don't lie. On top of that, since we joined the Big East/American it's been Louisville and Notre Dame that have dominated in ALL sports, olympics included. The drop off after us is really quite staggering in terms of total titles won, so please stop with the act that Louisville's a one trick horse in football with nothing else to deliver. Louisville deserves to be in. We've worked hard in athletics and academics to improve the university's standings and reputation. It's NOT the commuter college it once was, but a research school that's quickly gaining national recognition and prominence. Being aligned with similar such schools in the ACC will only help boost our growth. Unlike some other schools to our east, we WANT to get better. The perception that you guys have that Louisville is the same as UCF is grossly outdated and laughable.

I genuinely feel that UConn brings a lot to the table and that they'd be a contributing addition to either the ACC or the B1G. However, I cannot help but be amused by certain members of your fan base. UConn has a lot of work to do still. Hell, so does Louisville. The difference is that in Louisville, we understand that. You guys seem more contented at trying to belittle what Louisville's done as oppose to trying to fix your own problems. You guys would rather pooh pooh the notion of Boston College holding you back as oppose to going out and legitimately trying to build a North Eastern power in football. As Louisville fans, we get it. Being in a state with SEC UK isn't easy. Their fans are insufferable, their administration tried like hell during our earlier years to squash our athletics (and even at one point attempt to take over UofL as a school), and even our own state capital often tries to give then preferential treatment because our lawmakers can't separate sports fandom from what's best from the state (being two premier universities). Nevertheless, we've succeeded ANYHOW. We've not sat back and pointed fingers like UConn fans sit around and do here. We went out and made it happen anyhow. We not only WENT to two BCS Bowl games...we WON them. We did something in one try that our instate rival hasn't done in my wife's lifetime: Beat Florida. But we never sat around and said "We're not where we want to be because of this school or that holding us back". We went out and got what was ours. THAT is what UConn needs to be doing. THAT is what YOUR FANS need to be doing. If you want attention, then DEMAND it. If you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth and stop blaming everyone else for your problems. Stop belittling those that went out and made it happen for themselves because in the end you're only hurting yourselves worse to the very people that could be helping you. You run the risk of being just like West Virginia, only at least they found some way of getting into the P5 for now.
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Ummm...no. Louisville's academics are horrendous.

Lousiville
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-louisville-1999

161st ranked school in USN&WR
Acceptance rate - 76.3%
4-year graduation rate - 26%
Students who live off campus - 72.8%

UCONN
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-connecticut-29013

57th ranked school USN&WR
Acceptance rate - 44.7%
4-year graduation rate - 67%
Students who live off campus - 28%

In other words, Louisville is still very much the commuter school with a community college-like acceptance rate and graduation rate. You would be wise to stop preaching about Louisville's academics. It is very evident that the ACC sacrificed academics in order to try to satisfy the "football schools" within the conference. Do you think the football schools give a hoot about academics?

You will get no argument from me about Louisville's athletic accomplishments. Louisville's timing could not have been better to have success in both football and basketball. UCONN's timing could not have been worse to hire Pasqualoni and have an APR ban. UCONN has done things to turn around both. Bob Diaco is the same type of exciting young coach that Charlie Strong brought to Louisville. And Kevin Ollie's early success as head coach has done wonders to restore UCONN as a Top 5 elite program post-Calhoun and post-APR. You are right about our fanbase...UCONN fans need to step up and sell out football games as they did before Pasqualoni. Hopefully that will happen. But we all saw Louisville's attendance drop under Steve Kragthorpe, so please don't come over here and preach about selling out games under bad coaching tenures. It happens all over the country. Fans don't go to games when teams lose...even at Louisville.
 
Dooley said:
Ummm...no. Louisville's academics are horrendous.

Lousiville
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-louisville-1999

161st ranked school in USN&WR
Acceptance rate - 76.3%
4-year graduation rate - 26%
Students who live off campus - 72.8%

UCONN
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-connecticut-29013

57th ranked school USN&WR
Acceptance rate - 44.7%
4-year graduation rate - 67%
Students who live off campus - 28%

In other words, Louisville is still very much the commuter school with a community college-like acceptance rate and graduation rate. You would be wise to stop preaching about Louisville's academics. It is very evident that the ACC sacrificed academics in order to try to satisfy the "football schools" within the conference. Do you think the football schools give a hoot about academics?

You will get no argument from me about Louisville's athletic accomplishments. Louisville's timing could not have been better to have success in both football and basketball. UCONN's timing could not have been worse to hire Pasqualoni and have an APR ban. UCONN has done things to turn around both. Bob Diaco is the same type of exciting young coach that Charlie Strong brought to Louisville. And Kevin Ollie's early success as head coach has done wonders to restore UCONN as a Top 5 elite program post-Calhoun and post-APR. You are right about our fanbase...UCONN fans need to step up and sell out football games as they did before Pasqualoni. Hopefully that will happen. But we all saw Louisville's attendance drop under Steve Kragthorpe, so please don't come over here and preach about selling out games under bad coaching tenures. It happens all over the country. Fans don't go to games when teams lose...even at Louisville.
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Dooley isn't it funny how UL fans tend to conveniently forget the years Kragthorpe was there...it's like their coaching went from Petrino to Strong back to Petrino
 
Imabeliever aside from Petrino the ONLY national significance your football program had was hiring Howard Schnellenberger in the 90's. Don't sit on your high horse and come to our board telling us about your GREAT historical athletics. Truth be told..if the ACC had a GOR in place (not allowing FSU and Clemson to threaten to go to the B-12) when they needed to replace UMD the tables would be reversed. You owe EVERYTHING you have right now to Charlie Strong and his rebuilding of the Kragthorpe disaster!!
 
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FDNY99 said:
Dooley isn't it funny how UL fans tend to conveniently forget the years Kragthorpe was there...it's like their coaching went from Petrino to Strong back to Petrino
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I know right? I'm sure Paul Pasqualoni's name will also be treated like "he who shall not be named" in a few years too, but Louisville fans are under some strange delusion that they continued to sell out Papa John's during Steve Kragthorpe's tenure. They had an announced crowd of 23,422 for their last game in the Kragthorpe era against Rutgers. And that is announced attendance, who knows how many fans actually went into the stadium.

I welcome fans from other teams coming over to our board. But it's fan bases like Louisville's who come over and preach to UCONN about the importance of selling out games that I find very ironic. Steve Kragthorpe and dwindling football attendance wasn't that long ago for Louisville.
 
ImABeliever said:
I don't understand why you UConn fans seem to think Louisville's crappy in everything but football. The last time you beat us in football, it was because of a cheap shot that got flagged breaking Teddy's wrist! We won the 2013 National Men's Basketball title. Same year we were runners up in Women's Basketball and beat a Top10 Florida team in the Sugar Bowl. We also went to the College World Series. Quite frankly, if UConn was what you guys think you are, you'd be in. Instead of trying to be better overall, you're all too busy trying to talk smack about everyone else. It was that strategy that's left you guys on the outside looking in at the moment. I would rather have respectable conversations with you guys, honestly I would, but some of your fan base acts like you're Harvard in academics and Alabama in sports. You're not. You're just ....not.

There's a lot that I respect about UConn, but your behavior as a fan base is a detriment to your school and your image.
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The reason you guys are in the ACC and not us is that the conference is an illogical, visionless mess. Is there anything about their expansion moves that hints at an overall set of goals? Not saying Louisville didn't make a solid case for themselves, just saying they were presenting to the village idiot and his 12 man posse that were either even bigger idiots or didn't care enough to stand up for professed principles. Congratulations, you've boarded a rudderless vessel.
 
ImABeliever said:
How's it working out for you guys?
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It's not, Dr. Phil, thanks for asking. I think you missed my larger point, though. I'm not anti-Louisville, far from it. I've enjoyed Cardinals basketball since Denny Crum's time. I enjoyed having you guys in the Big East. I wish you well in the future. My point was that there's not a lot of sense to be made from our not getting into the ACC because there was no logical sense to your selection. Rather than spend time trying to make sense out of nonsense, I think my efforts would be better spent with a tube of lipstick and a pig. (Again, the nonsense isn't on Louisville's part).

Try to answer this: What possible ACC strategic issue is answered with Louisville? They want to compete with Kentucky in KY? They want to push FSU and Miami past Florida in FL? GaTech + Louisville > Georgia in GA? What?
 
ImABeliever said:
Apart from having states that touch, what purpose would there be in taking UConn by your metrics? Louisville was the winningest program left on the table AND we're close to Notre Dame, who was on our side. We have everything UConn has in basketball, better olympic sports, AND we're very competitive in football. I'm not sure you're seeing how those are all positives.

For the record too, our national championship game drew larger ratings than yours did this past year. I'll be courteous however, and blame that on UK. Nevertheless....people obviously tune in to watch The Cards.
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I will say that you have one thing that really made all the difference that UConn doesn't have, that being Mr. Jurich. An AD that was aggressive and had foresight changed the game. Yes, you and Louisville have moved on to greater things. Congratulations. Winning does not make a difference in CR. We all learned that lesson with Rutgers. Academics make no difference for the ACC. We learned that from Louisville. You all were providing the southern culture that the ACC needed at the time. Nothing more. One more thing, when you say that you have everything UConn has in basketball, how many national championships do you have in men's basketball?, not talking women's basketball, men's soccer, or men's polo? But I digress. Now go away.
 
buddy said:
I will say that you have one thing that really made all the difference that UConn doesn't have, that being Mr. Jurich. An AD that was aggressive and had foresight changed the game. Yes, you and Louisville have moved on to greater things. Congratulations. Winning does not make a difference in CR. We all learned that lesson with Rutgers. Academics make no difference for the ACC. We learned that from Louisville. You all were providing the southern culture that the ACC needed at the time. Nothing more. One more thing, when you say that you have everything UConn has in basketball, how many national championships do you have in men's basketball?, not talking women's basketball, men's soccer, or men's polo? But I digress. Now go away.
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The 1st thing I teach my kids is winning isn't everything...but we all knew that however relationships and choices are important. ACC or B1G? We all know how scattershot and visionless Swoffys thinking is!! ImaBeliever seems like a decent sort with a fair point IMO that isnt pleasantly received here!!
 
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ImABeliever said:
Apart from having states that touch, what purpose would there be in taking UConn by your metrics? Louisville was the winningest program left on the table AND we're close to Notre Dame, who was on our side. We have everything UConn has in basketball, better olympic sports, AND we're very competitive in football. I'm not sure you're seeing how those are all positives.

For the record too, our national championship game drew larger ratings than yours did this past year. I'll be courteous however, and blame that on UK. Nevertheless....people obviously tune in to watch The Cards.
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I'm not denying those things you listed are positives. We have our share of positives as well. Arguing over who has more or whose are better simply isn't my point. And asking me to answer my own question without having taken a stab at an answer yourself is bad form. I could say things like we're on the Atlantic coast or we at least own our own state but I won't because, frankly, I don't know whether or not those would answer the question I raised. I flat out don't have a clue what strategy might explain the ACC's approach to conference expansion. What set of common goals were they pursuing? That's the question I asked (or meant to anyway).

Without a common set of goals, without a cogent strategy to achieve those goals, you're not swimming, you're just splashing in the pool. Discussing whether UConn or Louisville was the better fit for the ACC moot because we don't know the decision making criteria and I, at least, can't discern any logical set of criteria that explain Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville. The Big Ten moves on Rutgers and Maryland and an inference can be deduced. What inference can you deduce from Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville?

And come on man, the ACC makes a 30-50 year commitment to a new conference mate based on a 20 minute (I'm sure it went on longer but the management summary was probably 20 mins. or so) Powerpoint pitch given over the Thanksgiving weekend? Please. That just screams desperation. Face it dude, you're rudderless, a member of a conference futzing around the fringes trying to solve big problems with tactics. At the moment, the ACC is not configured for success.
 
Dooley said:
Thanks for that, first-time poster. The beef that UCONN fans have with Louisville (and it is completely justified) is that the ACC didn't want to invite WVU because of academics. Then, they invited Louisville over UCONN. Louisville's academics are horrendous so please don't try to defend them.
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I wouldn't say horrendous. UL is probably very similar to Virginia Commonwealth University, with the exception that they have a FBS football team. VCU has a very good medical school and art program. Other VCU disciplines are average for any university. I only know 2 UL grads and they don't seem uneducated. I do know a lot of VCU grads and some are very successful while others are in the fat part of the bell curve (like me). One plus is that UL does have a billion dollar endowment which my school doesn't have. But so does VCU. This is probably because they have their own medical schools.

But with that said, I would have never imagined a school of VCU's academic caliber joining the ACC because of the ACC's previous stringent standards. Not saying UL is a bad school, just shocked they slipped in before UConn.
 
Face it. FSU and Clemson's threats worked. FSU I could understand because they were independent before joining. Clemson's positioning is the part that disappoints me the most. We need a new commissioner.
 
Everything else being equal,from an athletic perspective, and from a university perspective too, I think, we fit best in the ACC. From location to "natural rivalries" we're a better fit. Despite Florida State it is a basketball first league and despite what some might wish, UConn is a basketball first school. The ACC is really the only P5 league where that's the case. And we have history with a number of the current ACC members. Some in football but a lot in basketball. We have the Hockey East option for both mens and womens hockey so we are part of one of the top leagues there anyway. I also think we're more comparable as a university to the ACC schools than we are to the Big 10 schools both from the perspective of size, the nature of the places, "approach to academics" which is more geared to a mid-sized university than massive place like Michigan or Ohio State, for example, and we are more campus oriented, which again is more like an ACC school. Then we're a better fit in terms of size. At 20,000 +- we'd be one of the smallest Big 10 schools, but in the upper half of the ACC for example. There are a few exceptions, mostly the privates, but most ACC publics are between about 15.000 and 25,000 give or take. All in all it is the better fit. there are clearly some benefits of going to the Big, prestige being the biggest non-monetary one. But all in all, if I had a choice, I'd go with the ACC.
 
freescooter said:
Everything else being equal,from an athletic perspective, and from a university perspective too, I think, we fit best in the ACC. From location to "natural rivalries" we're a better fit. Despite Florida State it is a basketball first league and despite what some might wish, UConn is a basketball first school. The ACC is really the only P5 league where that's the case. And we have history with a number of the current ACC members. Some in football but a lot in basketball. We have the Hockey East option for both mens and womens hockey so we are part of one of the top leagues there anyway. I also think we're more comparable as a university to the ACC schools than we are to the Big 10 schools both from the perspective of size, the nature of the places, "approach to academics" which is more geared to a mid-sized university than massive place like Michigan or Ohio State, for example, and we are more campus oriented, which again is more like an ACC school. Then we're a better fit in terms of size. At 20,000 +- we'd be one of the smallest Big 10 schools, but in the upper half of the ACC for example. There are a few exceptions, mostly the privates, but most ACC publics are between about 15.000 and 25,000 give or take. All in all it is the better fit. there are clearly some benefits of going to the Big, prestige being the biggest non-monetary one. But all in all, if I had a choice, I'd go with the ACC.
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I would love to have you on board. :cool:
 
FDNY99 said:
Dooley isn't it funny how UL fans tend to conveniently forget the years Kragthorpe was there...it's like their coaching went from Petrino to Strong back to Petrino
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I always thought the Big East got duped adding Louisviville.
We brought them in to help football ,Petrino left,and they tanked.
They emerged only as the conference was falling apart.
No team got more out of their affiliation with the Big East than Louisville.
 
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