I miss the coaching wins thread. Here are the current standings.

[CL82]

Statistics correct as of February 6, 2018
Rank Name Years Wins Losses Pct. Teams (Seasons)
1 Pat Summitt ** 38 1098 208 .841 Tennessee (1974–2012)
2 Tara VanDerveer 39 1028 239 .811 Stanford (85–95, '96-)
3 Geno Auriemma 33 1014 135 .882 Connecticut (1985-)
4 Sylvia Hatchell 43 1004 383 .724 , UNC (1986-)
5 Barbara Stevens 41 1003 276 .784 Bentley (86-)
6 C.Vivian Stringer 47 995 397 .715 , Rutgers (95-)

Does CViv get to 1000 this year? That would make 4 coaches in a single year. Pretty neat.

 

[CBear01]

Does CViv get to 1000 this year? That would make 4 coaches in a single year. Pretty neat.

Yes she does. With the handful of games left (7 maybe?), then the tournament, then the NCAAs, I put my money on the 1000 wins this year if she can only win 5 more. If her TEAM only wins 5 more. They are capable. And they will

 

[CL82]

Yes she does. With the handful of games left (7 maybe?), then the tournament, then the NCAAs, I put my money on the 1000 wins this year if she can only win 5 more. If her TEAM only wins 5 more. They are capable. And they will

It might be tough. They are 2-5 over the last seven games, but they just had a big win over then #13 Michigan. They've got #13 Ohio St, #10 Maryland, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Northeastern left before the Big 10 Tourney.

 

[Ex Nutmegger]

I miss vowel guy and his chart as well. Thanks, CL82 for putting up your summary. It keeps this discussion front and center.

I am impressed with the effort Tara and Stanford are putting on lately. I thought Geno would be a little closer by now. I still think he will be within single didgets by season end.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Not looking good for #996 for C Viv tonight. Down 21 at the half against tOSU, Mitchell having herself a game. Scoring efficiently.

 

[osceola48]

A little off topic, but I don't like the "C Vivian" thing! If you don't like your first name, then drop the whole thing and just go with Vivian or Viv. Why do we all have to deal with saying and listening to "C Vivian Stringer"?

 

[MilfordHusky]

Geno and Sylvia both hit 1,000 on the same day, and he’s 10 ahead of her already. It should be 20 by the end of the season.

 

[CL82]

A little off topic, but I don't like the "C Vivian" thing! If you don't like your first name, then drop the whole thing and just go with Vivian or Viv. Why do we all have to deal with saying and listening to "C Vivian Stringer"?

Because to "CViv" is to like her?

 

[DefenseBB]

CL82 if you are going to list the schools for Coaches:
Tara had Idaho 1978-1980; Ohio St 1980-1895 for Tara. She had a 7 year head start on Geno.
Sylvia Hatchell-Francis Marion 1975-1986
CVS- Cheyney and Iowa...

It's rare that good coaches get to start, launch and sustain a program in the fickle business of coaching.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

A little off topic, but I don't like the "C Vivian" thing! If you don't like your first name, then drop the whole thing and just go with Vivian or Viv. Why do we all have to deal with saying and listening to "C Vivian Stringer"?

She is generally called Vivian by most and Viv by her friends. Early on, right after she came to RU, we were selected as the "host" to Howard, which was then coached by an old friend of hers. Having met them, we were attending a tournament that they (Howard) were in, and said hello to the coach. She asked us to take a note back to Coach Stringer (it related to an injury Vivian's son had suffered in an accident). The note was addressed "Viv".

CVS is also used, of course.

 

[CL82]

CL82 if you are going to list the schools for Coaches:
Tara had Idaho 1978-1980; Ohio St 1980-1895 for Tara. She had a 7 year head start on Geno.
Sylvia Hatchell-Francis Marion 1975-1986
CVS- Cheyney and Iowa...

It's rare that good coaches get to start, launch and sustain a program in the fickle business of coaching.

I had it in there originally, but it made too cluttered so I left only the current school.

 

[UConnNick]

A little off topic, but I don't like the "C Vivian" thing! If you don't like your first name, then drop the whole thing and just go with Vivian or Viv. Why do we all have to deal with saying and listening to "C Vivian Stringer"?

It's her name...she should use it any way she sees fit to. Maybe she thinks it's disrespectful to her parents or whomever she may be named after to drop any reference to her first name. That said, she apparently has her own reasons for not using it. Her first name is Charlene.

 

[UConnNick]

Thanks for posting the update, CL.

The number that really jumps out is Geno's all time win percentage. Only Summitt and VanDerveer are remotely in his league with that number. He's going to finish at over 90 percent. That is way beyond off the charts astonishing. It's likely unmatched in any other coaching career with his longevity, amateur or pro.

 

[CTtransplant]

Thanks for posting the update, CL.

The number that really jumps out is Geno's all time win percentage. Only Summitt and VanDerveer are remotely in his league with that number. He's going to finish at over 90 percent. That is way beyond off the charts astonishing. It's likely unmatched in any other coaching career with his longevity, amateur or pro.

The women's coach who is second on the list based on win percentage is Leon Barmore of La Tech. His record was 576-87 (.869). He was head coach there from 1985 to 2002. He had been an assistant to Sonja Hogg for 5 years, and then was co-Head coach with Hogg from 1982 to 1985.

One of his star players was Kim Mulkey. Oddly, in 2008, after having been retired for 6 years, he joined the Staff at Baylor as an assistant coach under Mulkey. He retired again in 2011.

He had coached high school before joining La Tech as an assistant.

 

[UConnNick]

The women's coach who is second on the list based on win percentage is Leon Barmore of La Tech. His record was 576-87 (.869). He was head coach there from 1985 to 2002. He had been an assistant to Sonja Hogg for 5 years, and then was co-Head coach with Hogg from 1982 to 1985.

One of his star players was Kim Mulkey. Oddly, in 2008, after having been retired for 6 years, he joined the Staff at Baylor as an assistant coach under Mulkey. He retired again in 2011.

He had coached high school before joining La Tech as an assistant.

I love Leon. I sat next to him and Mulkey during the first half of the OU - Stanford game at the 2010 Final Four. He quit at LA Tech because he hates to fly, and I think they were in the WAC at that time, which was a nightmare for him. I was surprised he came back as Mulkey's asst. since it involved more flying, albeit not quite as bad as the WAC. He's a great coach and a very funny man.

Still, absolutely no offense to him, but Geno is going to more than double the longevity of Leon's career and end up with a mind boggling 90 percent or better win percentage.

 

[BigBird]

Thanks for posting the update, CL.

The number that really jumps out is Geno's all time win percentage... It's likely unmatched in any other coaching career with his longevity, amateur or pro.

Unlikely perhaps, but UNC Women’s Soccer is pretty decent too.

 

[Bonpland]

Thanks for posting the update, CL.

The number that really jumps out is Geno's all time win percentage. Only Summitt and VanDerveer are remotely in his league with that number. He's going to finish at over 90 percent. That is way beyond off the charts astonishing. It's likely unmatched in any other coaching career with his longevity, amateur or pro.

It will be hard for Geno to finish at over 90 percent. Right now with 135 losses he'd have to have 1215 wins to reach a 90 percent winning percentage. That would take 8 more seasons without a loss. It doesn't seem likely

 

[osceola48]

It's her name...she should use it any way she sees fit to. Maybe she thinks it's disrespectful to her parents or whomever she may be named after to drop any reference to her first name. That said, she apparently has her own reasons for not using it. Her first name is Charlene.

Can't disagree, but I still find it annoying. BTW, Wikipedia says her first name is Charlaine.

 

[CL82]

Rank Name Years Wins Losses Pct. Current Team
1 Pat Summitt ----- 38 1098 208 - .841 Tennessee
2 Tara VanDerveer 39 1030 239 -.812 Stanford
3 Geno Auriemma 33 1016 135 - .883 Connecticut
4 Sylvia Hatchell-- 43 1004 383 - .724 North Carolina
5 Barbara Stevens 41 1003 276 - .784 Bentley
6 CVivian Stringer 47 995 397 - .715 Rutgers

 

[nd2tty]

Unlikely perhaps, but UNC Women’s Soccer is pretty decent too.

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Entirely different sports (the draw vs. loss is especially problematic), different season lengths/win possibilities, and different competition levels (see also funding, etc), but not an entirely terrible comparison.

Dorrance is currently (after the 2017 season) 826-70-38 in 934 games, or (if you count a draw as a loss) at 88.44% winning percentage. With 20 national titles and 5 perfect seasons and 11 undefeated seasons.

All in all, pretty similar dynasty numbers.

 

[nd2tty]

Entirely different sports (the draw vs. loss is especially problematic), different season lengths/win possibilities, and different competition levels (see also funding, etc), but not an entirely terrible comparison.

Dorrance is currently (after the 2017 season) 826-70-38 in 934 games, or (if you count a draw as a loss) at 88.44% winning percentage. With 20 national titles and 5 perfect seasons and 11 undefeated seasons.

All in all, pretty similar dynasty numbers.

Also, UNC is a dynasty that, like Tennessee, has probably seen it's peak: 6 NCs since 2000, but only 1 since 2010.

Versus UConn's 9 since 2000-2001 and 4 since 2010-2011.

 

[BigBird]

All in all, pretty similar dynasty numbers.

Yes. That was exactly my point. When the greatest women’s sports coach is the topic, Dorrance at least deserves to be in the discussion.

 

[Phil]

Can't disagree, but I still find it annoying. BTW, Wikipedia says her first name is Charlaine.

As a general rule, one should be cautious about accpeting something found in Wikipedia.

Especially is you track down where it came from and see it was added by an unregistered editor who only made three edits ever.

I decided to check her autobiography. (A great read, by the way.)


As a junior in high school, she referred to herself as "Vivian" (page 17)

Her nickname (in high school was "V.I." (page 19)

Her father referred to her as "V.I." page 22

Then, on page 36, she reveals that the C stands for Charlaine.

 

[Phil]

Interestingly, she is in the Iowa Athletics Hall of Fame and that page lists her first name as Charlene. I'm reaching out to the museum to see if they can correct it.
Stringer « University of Iowa Athletics Hall of Fame | Official Website

 

[Oldbones]

A little off topic, but I don't like the "C Vivian" thing! If you don't like your first name, then drop the whole thing and just go with Vivian or Viv. Why do we all have to deal with saying and listening to "C Vivian Stringer"?

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