I love Football and this Board... That being said would we actually save money if they canceled the season?

[NorwalkHusky]

Stay in Norwalk. You love football but not UConn football apparently.

Dude I freaking love the football team never missed a game while I was there. I of course would be lost if we didn't have a season in the fall. I'm just genuinely curious how bad this will affect UConn. Honestly if I was the Bama, Ohio St, Texas AD etc, I would be sharting bricks with the thought of not having a normal season. Those 100K Stadiums full make those guys rich. When the well dries up who knows. We on the other hand are kinda use to it. Do we just dip more into student fees. LOL maybe we won't notice?

 

[Watchdog]

That's not really what is in question here. I agree a winning team could increase attendance, however my concern is that if the sport goes away for an entire season the fans will go away with it. With The NCAA mulling a one time transfer rule allowing movement without penalty, the prospect of returning a competitive team in 2021 would be bleak should opportunities to play elsewhere exist in 2020.

If there's no 2020 season the schools will have two years of "freshmen" for the 2021 season so where will all these transferring players go if the "seniors or redshirt seniors" don't graduate and leave? Seems there might be a problem of another sort.............lots of good players with no scholarship available unless the NCAA allows rosters with more than 85 players.

 

[huskypantz]

The biggest impact to a loss of the season would be the bottom line on the P5 schools. Without content, I'd imagine that they're not going to get their TV contract $$$. They certainly can't get their bowl/championship money. And what does Michigan gross on fan revenue per home game? $5-8 million? There is a lot of money at stake.

 

[freescooter]

If there's no 2020 season the schools will have two years of "freshmen" for the 2021 season so where will all these transferring players go if the "seniors or redshirt seniors" don't graduate and leave? Seems there might be a problem of another sort.............lots of good players with no scholarship available unless the NCAA allows rosters with more than 85 players.

Well if colleges don’t play most high schools won’t either. Recruiting will certainly change. You are taking a chance on a kid who was pretty good as a jr but hasn’t played since. Gonna be lots of mistakes made. Everybody will be Bob Diaco.

 

[ktuck911]

Stay in Norwalk. You love football but not UConn football apparently.

I'm a Norwalk guy too, but definitely NOT in the same box as that Norwalk guy you are directing that comment to.

 

[UCFBfan]

The biggest impact to a loss of the season would be the bottom line on the P5 schools. Without content, I'd imagine that they're not going to get their TV contract $$$. They certainly can't get their bowl/championship money. And what does Michigan gross on fan revenue per home game? $5-8 million? There is a lot of money at stake.

Actually the biggest losers that many aren’t even talking about are the small college towns that these stadiums reside in. Think about where these towns are. Most are in small, rural areas that survive off football revenue. I read in one of the numerous articles about effects on CFB on schools that businesses in Tuscaloosa make close to $19.1 million a year on fans coming in for games. That’s for 6-7 weekends, that’s it. How are they making up that revenue? Now remove students also being off campus. These college college towns are going to be decimated.

 

[freescooter]

Some recent testing from the carrier Theodore Roosevelt raises more concerns. Reported in the Wall St Journal so clearly not a bastion of liberal elites. The Navy found like 60% of positives had no symptoms. Which might suggest that among young healthy people many can be carriers without knowing it. So sitting near the student section could be problematic since there might be many carriers in that cohort who have no idea they are dangerous. Same with players. Symptomless players could pass it to other more susceptible ones.

 

[huskypantz]

Some recent testing from the carrier Theodore Roosevelt raises more concerns. Reported in the Wall St Journal so clearly not a bastion of liberal elites. The Navy found like 60% of positives had no symptoms. Which might suggest that among young healthy people many can be carriers without knowing it. So sitting near the student section could be problematic since there might be many carriers in that cohort who have no idea they are dangerous. Same with players. Symptomless players could pass it to other more susceptible ones.

I don’t we’re going to have fans in the stands. We should be happy if we have a season.

 

[HartfordHank]

How many advertisers will still be on board to fund broadcasts. Big bucks will not be there to show empty arenas/stadiums.

I think there will be big bucks to fund broadcasts, especially with empty stadiums. You will have bigger TV audiences and higher advertising rates.

 

[freescooter]

I do think the other question is who will even want to go to games. Some Recent research strongly suggests that you are most contagious about 2-4 days BEFORE you show symptoms. So you go to a game with 10 friends. everybody is fine. No coughs no fevers. Then Tuesday morning Joe wakes up with all the symptoms. Everyone you were with is now high risk for at least 2 weeks. Plus all the people you guys came in contact with. Maybe lesser that your group except for the ones in contact with Joe directly but still at high risk. You going to the Rent or Gampel in that scenario?

 

[Bobol]

Most D 3 teams have to fund raise a certain percentage of their budgets. Think of Dan Hurley sending a note offering to walk your dog for a donation.

Not sure what D3 football program(s) you are referring to but each and every D3 program I am familiar with is fully funded by the college or university.

Please don’t be silly; no one is advocating UConn being D3. The issue facing UConn and Connecticut State decision makers is whether to continue support a financially draining FBS football team with little or no positive ROI when those same millions of $ could be used for additional financial assistance to worthy UConn students, or used to promote academic excellence of the University.

Importantly, there is absolutely no realistic plan by which UConn’s nomad Independent FBS football program becomes a self sustaining positive for the University while the UConn men’s and women’s basketball teams regain national prominence in the Big East.

 

[hardcorehusky]

Not sure what D3 football program(s) you are referring to but each and every D3 program I am familiar with is fully funded by the college or university.

Please don’t be silly; no one is advocating UConn being D3. The issue facing UConn and Connecticut State decision makers is whether to continue support a financially draining FBS football team with little or no positive ROI when those same millions of $ could be used for additional financial assistance to worthy UConn students, or used to promote academic excellence of the University.

Importantly, there is absolutely no realistic plan by which UConn’s nomad Independent FBS football program becomes a self sustaining positive for the University while the UConn men’s and women’s basketball teams regain national prominence in the Big East.

There is a realistic plan that is in place. No way the University haphazardly withdraws from a league and enters a new one without a plan. The plan was being worked until Covid 19. Just because the University doesn't show us the future P & L doesn't mean they don't have a plan. Benedict was the CFO of Auburn's athletic department - he has a plan.

 

[Exit 4]

Some recent testing from the carrier Theodore Roosevelt raises more concerns. Reported in the Wall St Journal so clearly not a bastion of liberal elites. The Navy found like 60% of positives had no symptoms. Which might suggest that among young healthy people many can be carriers without knowing it. So sitting near the student section could be problematic since there might be many carriers in that cohort who have no idea they are dangerous. Same with players. Symptomless players could pass it to other more susceptible ones.

I view this as very good news. It means the death rate percentages are dramatically overstated, albeit still scary - but much lower and closer (but still well above) the regular flu. There are several small studies that are finding similar conclusions including another one in California which is mentioned in the WSJ editorial this evening.

from the WSJ:
The county, where I live, is home to about two million people in the heart of Silicon Valley, including San Jose, the state’s third-largest city. It has the largest known number of cases in Northern California and saw some of the earliest cases of community spread in the U.S.

The researchers found that the percentage of infections was indeed vastly larger than the roughly 1,000 known positive cases in the county at the time of the study. The preliminary results—the research will now undergo peer review—show that between 2.5% and 4.2% of county residents are estimated to have antibodies against the virus. That translates into 48,000 to 81,000 infections, 50 to 85 times as high as the number of known cases.


Two ways out of this horrible pandemic, either we find a safe and robust vaccine is very short order (possible) and/or we find out that this is not as deadly for people under age 70 than originally thought. A high number of asymtomatic people could mean we get closer to herd immunity later this summer. I realize this does nothing for those that we have lost or those who remain at high risk, particularly the elderly....just saying its a path out of this mess.

 

[freescooter]

Not sure what D3 football program(s) you are referring to but each and every D3 program I am familiar with is fully funded by the college or university.

Please don’t be silly; no one is advocating UConn being D3. The issue facing UConn and Connecticut State decision makers is whether to continue support a financially draining FBS football team with little or no positive ROI when those same millions of $ could be used for additional financial assistance to worthy UConn students, or used to promote academic excellence of the University.

Importantly, there is absolutely no realistic plan by which UConn’s nomad Independent FBS football program becomes a self sustaining positive for the University while the UConn men’s and women’s basketball teams regain national prominence in the Big East.

That is a red herring. The money they “save” isn’t going to other worthy students. That is such a bs argument it isn’t even worth discussing. And D3 teams are funded by schools but it is essentially base funding. Often players buy their own gear or some of it anyway. They don’t get shoes for example. Or much in the way of special equipment. That comes from fundraising. I’ve had kids play d3 sports and every season they had to raise cash.

 

[TMB4405]

What people do not seem to understand is successful sports programs provide the University and state with value that is not measured in dollars. I do not care if we “lose” money. Winning teams bring more value than the losses. That said we should make sure we are not spending out of control in the AD. But winning football teams for Uconn whether it’s independent, AAC or any other conference is a key to bringing more overall value and protecting and building on basketball and other sports success.

 

[traitor71]

I view this as very good news. It means the death rate percentages are dramatically overstated, albeit still scary - but much lower and closer (but still well above) the regular flu. There are several small studies that are finding similar conclusions including another one in California which is mentioned in the WSJ editorial this evening.

from the WSJ:
The county, where I live, is home to about two million people in the heart of Silicon Valley, including San Jose, the state’s third-largest city. It has the largest known number of cases in Northern California and saw some of the earliest cases of community spread in the U.S.

The researchers found that the percentage of infections was indeed vastly larger than the roughly 1,000 known positive cases in the county at the time of the study. The preliminary results—the research will now undergo peer review—show that between 2.5% and 4.2% of county residents are estimated to have antibodies against the virus. That translates into 48,000 to 81,000 infections, 50 to 85 times as high as the number of known cases.


Two ways out of this horrible pandemic, either we find a safe and robust vaccine is very short order (possible) and/or we find out that this is not as deadly for people under age 70 than originally thought. A high number of asymtomatic people could mean we get closer to herd immunity later this summer. I realize this does nothing for those that we have lost or those who remain at high risk, particularly the elderly....just saying its a path out of this mess.

I think treatment is really the way "out". Who knows when an actual vaccine will be available, and life can't just stop to wait for it. At the end of the day, people don't want to get sick, but if they do, they want to know they can be treated for it. People can get the flu, they can die from the flu, but they also know that they can be treated and get better, so they are confident in going about their daily lives. This is going to be the same thing. Once people realize this isn't Captain Trips, and once they know that they can get it and get better, then things will normalize. I believe that time is coming much more quickly than the doomsday crowd thought that it might.

 

[Ldandy]

If there's no 2020 season the schools will have two years of "freshmen" for the 2021 season so where will all these transferring players go if the "seniors or redshirt seniors" don't graduate and leave? Seems there might be a problem of another sort.............lots of good players with no scholarship available unless the NCAA allows rosters with more than 85 players.

I misunderstood your hypothetical. I thought the idea was if UConn could save money by canceling the season, however I see now that you meant if the entirety of CFB was shut down.

Ultimately I think UConn loses money by not playing. The sunken costs of scholarships, personnel, and facilities don’t go away for football as well as the women’s sports that offset their numbers due to Title 9 should the season be cancelled. You save some on travel obviously, but there is no offset from ticket sales and TV revenue.

The loss would not be the same as say Alabama would experience, but it would still be a loss relative to the expected income of games being played. How much would likely depend on how good of a TV deal your AD had put together.

 

[Exit 4]

I think treatment is really the way "out". Who knows when an actual vaccine will be available, and life can't just stop to wait for it. At the end of the day, people don't want to get sick, but if they do, they want to know they can be treated for it. People can get the flu, they can die from the flu, but they also know that they can be treated and get better, so they are confident in going about their daily lives. This is going to be the same thing. Once people realize this isn't Captain Trips, and once they know that they can get it and get better, then things will normalize. I believe that time is coming much more quickly than the doomsday crowd thought that it might.

Do we have treatments for virus’? I guess so, but it seems most of the time it ends up being a vaccine. Regardless, sure a treatment would be great and welcome.

 

[traitor71]

Do we have treatments for virus’? I guess so, but it seems most of the time it ends up being a vaccine. Regardless, sure a treatment would be great and welcome.

Treatment, to me, means mitigating the symptoms when you get sick. Keeping you as comfortable as possible until your body wears the virus out. You don't contract this and fall face down, dead on the floor. Either nothing happens, or you get sick. If you get sick, the focus needs to be on keeping you well enough to not have to be hospitalized. When people feel confident in that, they are going to go about their lives again. We simply can't stay locked up for an indefinate amount of time. Life and commerce has to resume.

 

[Exit 4]

Treatment, to me, means mitigating the symptoms when you get sick. Keeping you as comfortable as possible until your body wears the virus out. You don't contract this and fall face down, dead on the floor. Either nothing happens, or you get sick. If you get sick, the focus needs to be on keeping you well enough to not have to be hospitalized. When people feel confident in that, they are going to go about their lives again. We simply can't stay locked up for an indefinate amount of time. Life and commerce has to resume.

AIDS is the only virus that comes to mind that we have a “treatment” for- all the others are defeated by our own antibodies or a vaccine. If we actually devise a clear treatment- it will probably be very much akin to a vaccine.

 

[traitor71]

AIDS is the only virus that comes to mind that we have a “treatment” for- all the others are defeated by our own antibodies or a vaccine. If we actually devise a clear treatment- it will probably be very much akin to a vaccine.

I don't think you are catching my meaning. I believe you are talking full blown prevention or a cure. I'm saying that is likely to take awhile. In the meantime, when someone gets sick, we need to find a way to minimize the effects, to be able to keep them out of the ICU, off of a ventilator, etc. Keep them in a relatively decent condition while their body fights off the virus. The panic with this thing is as bad, or worse than the virus itself, so there needs to be a way for the general public to feel like they can deal with the effects of the virus while getting better. In reality, traditional treatments (rest, fluids, etc) help as much as anything to get one through being sick from this, but people seem to be focusing on death totals (exaggerated or otherwise) and that generates fear which takes us all down a bad path. I'm basically saying that we need more confidence to actually go about living our lives again, hopefully in a responsible manner.

 

[huskymedic]

There are two applicable sections towards the end of this long piece that talk about vaccines (“There will not be a vaccine soon”) and treatment (“Treatments are likely to arrive first”)...

 

[Exit 4]

I don't think you are catching my meaning. I believe you are talking full blown prevention or a cure. I'm saying that is likely to take awhile. In the meantime, when someone gets sick, we need to find a way to minimize the effects, to be able to keep them out of the ICU, off of a ventilator, etc. Keep them in a relatively decent condition while their body fights off the virus. The panic with this thing is as bad, or worse than the virus itself, so there needs to be a way for the general public to feel like they can deal with the effects of the virus while getting better. In reality, traditional treatments (rest, fluids, etc) help as much as anything to get one through being sick from this, but people seem to be focusing on death totals (exaggerated or otherwise) and that generates fear which takes us all down a bad path. I'm basically saying that we need more confidence to actually go about living our lives again, hopefully in a responsible manner.

All I am pointing out is that generally speaking “treatments” for viruses are limited...they tend to deal more with symptoms and side affects. In your life, ever heard of medicine to deal with a virus besides fever reduces and anti inflammatories which deal? For instance Doctors prescribe antibiotics to deal with bacteria - not viruses (head on).

I hope we find a “treatment” but my guess is that the treatment we find as a bridge to a vaccine is more of a medicinal cocktail based a comprehensive profile that boost your odds but don’t really attack the virus. Medicines that boost your odds and enable your antibodies. Indirect stuff.

 

[John]

Considering we're independent in football and between leagues in almost everything else, it'd make sense to at least considering shuttering the entire athletic department.

Edit: for a year

 

[buddy]

Yes a Tamiflu type product is possible- although Tamiflu efficacy seems to be a little short of crystal clear for treating influenza.... but it is a treatment- true.

Tamiflu decreases the intensity of flu virus if taken early. It is not a cure. It is not effective for coronavirus at all.

 

[uconnbill]

pull the plug.

Bite it

 

[uconnbill]

Considering we're independent in football and between leagues in almost everything else, it'd make sense to at least considering shuttering the entire athletic department.

Edit: for a year

Just hush, my gosh you people are unreal.

 

[TMB4405]

I swear people are rooting for the apocalypse.

 

[buddy]

I swear people are rooting for the apocalypse.

I think there is a faction that thinks if the P5 can't play football, there will be another restructuring and perhaps UConn won't be left out this time. But I don't think anyone really wants an apocalypse. I think most people here want to see all sports resume ASAP.

 

[freescooter]

Bite it

You know what? I agree as long as it is all sports. Let universities focus on their real missions. Educating and research. No reason to spend a penny on entertaining the state of Connecticut.