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Temple is 3-1. After going 2-10 last year. I guarantee you that the University of Connecticut devotes a multiple of 2x the resources to Football. Things change year to year (and frankly, that's one of the reasons we love college sports). Temple looks decent & on the uptick.

I dunno about Diaco. But the original post is silly from a guy who's watched UConn Football for awhile. Nothing should surprise: we all know the background of that OLine - we simply are in a Total Rebuild. Against decent opposition - not Yankee Conference. Whitmer has a huge issue on ball control. And we seem to have a predisposition to make penalties & turnovers at crucial moments. Coaching must take the blame.

I think we have time. But we need to be a solid football program. Frankly, for all you talking about leaving early, that was a great crowd on a nice day yesterday. Wasted. We could WIN? And build from there.

Warde Manuel criticism comes from a fool. End of that thought.
 
ChrisSmith said:
I couldn't agree with you more. Fire Diacco. Offer Saban $5MM a year.
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Saban makes $6.9/year. Of course he would come here for $5. He wouldn't go to Texas for $10.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I am not ready to fire Diaco even if we lose out. I think he could be good eventually, he is just learning on the job. I don't think he was the best choice, but he is our problem now and i don't think kicking him out helps even though I wish we had hired Weist.

I am ready to fire Warde. Everything Warde touches turns to dung, and Diaco is just another in a long list of Manuel mistakes which the university can not afford. I would fire him tomorrow and make Calhoun Acting AD and first try to bring Pendergast back as soon as possible.
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I'd be more worried about Michigan coming in and hiring Warde as their AD.

If Warde ever leaves us (this soon)that is the signal that a P5 conference invite for us is pipe dream.

Everyone should just back off the ledge.
 
To be honest I'm more worried about him quitting at the end of the year if we don't get any better. If he walks there is no way we get anyone decent to come in here.
 
Calhoun's Court said:
I'd be more worried about Michigan coming in and hiring Warde as their AD.

If Warde ever leaves us (this soon)that is the signal that a P5 conference invite for us is pipe dream.

Everyone should just back off the ledge.
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If Warde DIDN'T leave for Michigan I'd be worried for his sanity. Alma Mater, P5 school, oh and did I mention it's freaking Michigan.

Him getting HIRED by Michigan is not a sign we are not going anywhere. Him walking away like JMoney said, is the sign we're not going anywhere.
 
J187Money said:
To be honest I'm more worried about him quitting at the end of the year if we don't get any better. If he walks there is no way we get anyone decent to come in here.
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To be clear I mean Diaco walking away.
 
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UCFBfan said:
If Warde DIDN'T leave for Michigan I'd be worried for his sanity. Alma Mater, P5 school, oh and did I mention it's freaking Michigan.

Him getting HIRED by Michigan is not a sign we are not going anywhere. Him walking away like JMoney said, is the sign we're not going anywhere.
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Him getting HIRED by Michigan is not a sign we are not going anywhere. Him walking away like JMoney said, is the sign we're not going anywhere.[/QUOTE]

Didn't mean Warde wouldn't take the job(of course he would)-meant that we would be in trouble if he did leave now.
 
Calhoun's Court said:
Didn't mean Warde wouldn't take the job(of course he would)-meant that we would be in trouble if he did leave now.
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I don't think we'd be in that much trouble. Did he really do anything amazing during his time here? Seriously? I'm not someone who wants him fired, but I'm not totally enamored with him either. To me, he hasn't really done anything above and beyond to make me think he needs to be here for us to get to P5.
 
We have the worst OL in FBS and possibly FCS today, that alone is a huge obstacle for any newly hired coaching staff to overcome. We lost our starting QB (who was a big reason for the 3 wins Weist got last year) and have turned to a guy who is trying his hardest but is just over his head at this level (and it doesn't help the he and Boyle are pretty much getting drilled every time they drop back). We are not good on that side of the ball, period. Some of that falls on these coaches, but most of it is due to L.O.F.T. (Lack Of F'ng Talent). Part of that LOFT is due to youth, and those kids will get stronger and better over time, but a lot of it is due to 3 years of kids not being coached properly, developed on the field, or in the weight room (go eat a bag of s PGDL and JH).

I'm not ready to tar and feather Diaco yet (although I am beginning to research the price and availability of tar on-line just in case), but he has made some suspect decisions in his game and player management 4 games into his career here. We will see if this is all part of the master plan that delivers much success over the coming seasons, or if this is a guy who is following his GPS down a road that leads to a cliff with no bridge. Only thing I am positive of is this is not the time to be the worst FB team in FBS.
 
Diaco is not walking away from $8 million dollars and UConn is not going to find another $8 million to replace him.

They could go 2-22 and he'd be back for 2016.

Nobody is firing Warde and it's a long shot Michigan gives him a shot while his football program burns around him.
 
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whaler11 said:
Diaco is not walking away from $8 million dollars and UConn is not going to find another $8 million to replace him.

They could go 2-22 and he'd be back for 2016.

Nobody is firing Warde and it's a long shot Michigan gives him a shot while his football program burns around him.
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I agree on Warde not being hired by Michigan. What major program would hire an AD that has let the football program get worse every year he has been in charge and clearly hired the wrong coach when presented the choice of two alternatives?

My concern is the basketball program. UConn is a Final Four away from some NBA team offering Ollie money. Maybe Ollie stays anyway, but $10mm a year is $10mm a year. Does anyone trust Manuel to replace Ollie if the NBA takes him?
 
Oregon Owl said:
I can't comment about your university's athletic department, but regarding a coaching learning curve, I serve as direct evidence Matt Rhule, who went 2-10 last year after inheriting a team that went 4-7 the year before. There were many Owl fans who were incredulous at losses to Idaho and Fordham. I think UCONN's problems extend beyond new coaching. There was a significant talent gap today. Your defense actually played well. Our offense only scored 20. Your O has major rebuilding written all over it (except for the freshman tailback who scored the TD). I thought the 3rd string QB showed flashes of talent and athleticism. And QB is the position that propels everything forward. He may be sitting on your bench.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but that 3rd string QB you speak of is our starting slot WR. He's a senior.
 
sportsart said:
Please tell me how another coach could make the OL block better. Foley didn't get stupid overnight.
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Is Foley in charge? I didn't know that.
If I can predict that Whitmer is going to drop back 11 steps with his back to the play as he fakes a handoff, then roll into the outside rush, so can the opposing coaches.

And this is why I closely watched the DEs all game yesterday, and they rarely if ever tried inside moves. They knew they could rush upfield with no regard and Whitmer was not going to hurt them by stepping up in the pocket.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I agree on Warde not being hired by Michigan. What major program would hire an AD that has let the football program get worse every year he has been in charge and clearly hired the wrong coach when presented the choice of two alternatives?

My concern is the basketball program. UConn is a Final Four away from some NBA team offering Ollie money. Maybe Ollie stays anyway, but $10mm a year is $10mm a year. Does anyone trust Manuel to replace Ollie if the NBA takes him?
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I do trust Calhoun-who would have a large say in the matter (again).
 
ChrisSmith said:
I couldn't agree with you more. Fire Diacco. Offer Saban $5MM a year.
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Wow.... Why not just offer Bill Belichick $4 million.

Evidently you didn't hear that Texas offered Saban $100 million last winter and he turned it down:
http://espn.go.com/college-football...epared-offer-100-million-nick-saban-book-says

He preferred remaining at Bama for a mere $55 million:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...contract-extension-assistant-coaches/9914115/

I'm sure a $2 million per year pay cut to come here is quite appealing.
 
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John said:
are you crazy?? If you canned a head coach in his first season you would NEVER get a decent coach in that program again. Sorry folks, you need to give the guy some time, like at least into his third year.
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Uh oh, PP flashbacks...but I agree.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but that 3rd string QB you speak of is our starting slot WR. He's a senior.
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Then I think you should cry. He looked better than anybody else you threw out there behind center.
 
The only thing I question is the OC- Mike Cumming's playcalling at times this season so far. I know he's only playing with the cards he's been dealt, but sometimes they're very very conservitive on Offense.
 
My logical brain tells me to be patient. My fan brain just cannot take another season of this garbage. It's just so dispiriting after a while. Another season shot, no bright spots... Nothing to hang any hope on thus far. This team is a bad as I can remember. The old Shane Stafford teams of 1-aa would give these guys more than they can handle.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I am not ready to fire Diaco even if we lose out. I think he could be good eventually, he is just learning on the job. I don't think he was the best choice, but he is our problem now and i don't think kicking him out helps even though I wish we had hired Weist.

I am ready to fire Warde. Everything Warde touches turns to dung, and Diaco is just another in a long list of Manuel mistakes which the university can not afford. I would fire him tomorrow and make Calhoun Acting AD and first try to bring Pendergast back as soon as possible.
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I still think Lembo was the guy for the job...or another MAC head coach. Those guys bring the advantage of being head coaches. No learning curve. I agree with you on Warde. Sooner he is gone better off we are. But I wouldn't want Prendergast. There are plenty of competent ADs out there. We just don't happen to have one of them.
 
upstater said:
Is Foley in charge? I didn't know that.
If I can predict that Whitmer is going to drop back 11 steps with his back to the play as he fakes a handoff, then roll into the outside rush, so can the opposing coaches.

And this is why I closely watched the DEs all game yesterday, and they rarely if ever tried inside moves. They knew they could rush upfield with no regard and Whitmer was not going to hurt them by stepping up in the pocket.
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We've seen Foley turn a skinny kid with no D1 offers and a walk-on who didn't play HS football until his senior year into NFL starters. What does that say about the talent level of the O/Linemen presently on the roster? It's a shame because I really believe that the skill kids, as a group, are as good, if not better, than they've ever been. The older players seem to lack the basic talent necessary to be a D1 OL.

If I counted correctly, 12 of the 16 players listed as OL's return for two more years. Only two will graduate. Unless we become one of those Programs that takes away scholarships (don't see that happening), we have to hope that Foley et al have enough to work with. Otherwise, ugh.
 
FAIRTIDES said:
We've seen Foley turn a skinny kid with no D1 offers and a walk-on who didn't play HS football until his senior year into NFL starters. What does that say about the talent level of the O/Linemen presently on the roster? It's a shame because I really believe that the skill kids, as a group, are as good, if not better, than they've ever been. The older players seem to lack the basic talent necessary to be a D1 OL.

If I counted correctly, 12 of the 16 players listed as OL's return for two more years. Only two will graduate. Unless we become one of those Programs that takes away scholarships (don't see that happening), we have to hope that Foley et al have enough to work with. Otherwise, ugh.
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Agree - I don't think we are looking at taking away scholarships or any attrition from OL until we get some verbally committed and then signed OL. Even if some of our verbals are switching to OL it will most likely be some time before they beef up and can possibly be considered contributors on the OL.
 
FAIRTIDES said:
We've seen Foley turn a skinny kid with no D1 offers and a walk-on who didn't play HS football until his senior year into NFL starters. What does that say about the talent level of the O/Linemen presently on the roster? It's a shame because I really believe that the skill kids, as a group, are as good, if not better, than they've ever been. The older players seem to lack the basic talent necessary to be a D1 OL.

If I counted correctly, 12 of the 16 players listed as OL's return for two more years. Only two will graduate. Unless we become one of those Programs that takes away scholarships (don't see that happening), we have to hope that Foley et al have enough to work with. Otherwise, ugh.
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Foley doesn't call plays. I've really been talking about plays that will put players in position to succeed.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I agree on Warde not being hired by Michigan. What major program would hire an AD that has let the football program get worse every year he has been in charge and clearly hired the wrong coach when presented the choice of two alternatives?

My concern is the basketball program. UConn is a Final Four away from some NBA team offering Ollie money. Maybe Ollie stays anyway, but $10mm a year is $10mm a year. Does anyone trust Manuel to replace Ollie if the NBA takes him?
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JC is still in charge of that....Just say'n...
 
The offensive line is just offensive and has shown nothing. That has to going mostly on the lack of talent and some coaching. Just need better players, plain and simple.

The coaching staff needs to adapt to the talent they have and put them in the best position to succeed. What they are doing now is not helping the players succeed
 
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