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Message: [QUOTE="Towney007, post: 2543991, member: 5832"] If after these two seasons, it's not time to fire Ollie, then when is that, exactly and how bad does that have to look like? He's a nice dude who's done a tremendous service to our program and was a great player. Fantastic human by all measures. But this can't continue. He's lost two teams, had another two massively underachieve and all we're chalking it up to is luck? That's an actual, serious answer? It's the same problems over an over again manifested in different role players. Coaches have left. Players have left. Results have gotten progressively worse. But sure - not Ollie. Nothing, actually. Just 'luck.' Wow. [/QUOTE]