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Message: [QUOTE="BlueMAB, post: 2543719, member: 920"] I didn't say he shouldn't have tried, I said he swung and missed. Hindsight being what it is, I think we were better off doing what I posted earlier. But if you add all of his recent recruiting misses, then you have a program that is 0-14 against the Top 50 over the past 2 years. Saying that he owns the results of his recruiting efforts is simply holding him accountable for his performance. I didn't do that either. I said there were obvious red flags, but I didn't say that was the reason it was a mistake. The fact is, he's stayed out of trouble off the court (I think). What I'm talking about is the selfish attitude that his behavior displayed then, and how it seems to be prevalent on the team today, and maybe while Cobb deserved a second shot, because of the make-up of our team, this was the wrong place at the wrong time. I also said Ollie would have deserved the credit had it worked out, so I'm not opposed to taking risks. But the coach still owns the results, no matter the outcome. This team appears to have had chemistry issues the past few years. They play selfishly. It's worse this year than it was last year. And recruiting guys who exhibit the kind of behavior that Cobb did was obviously a mistake. I didn't know it at the time, obviously Ollie didn't. But it was still a mistake, and it's okay to call it that. That's not bashing Ollie. That's not criticizing the philosophy of taking risks on players and giving them second chances. I believe in second chances. I also believe in accountability. But [USER=1047]@August_West[/USER] is both arguing that it wasn't a mistake to recruit him AND arguing the team is better off without him. Then obviously it was a mistake. We could have recruited some other JUCO big man, kicked the tires on potential transfers, or spent that time recruiting HS big men. [/QUOTE]

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