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Message: [QUOTE="spudzj6, post: 3035000, member: 6812"] I was about to post the same thing...with the refs we have put up with this year, it's downright awful to be a coach. BUT I believe (if only because it's what I do) - Hurley gets into it with the refs so his players don't. My biggest challenge to instilling a winning culture is getting players to understand they cannot do anything productive while complaining to the refs. Leave that to me, you just play and play hard. You hardly see any player talk to the refs about bad calls, the most you have seen was Carlton's "little" frustration move yesterday, but he controlled it. If this is indeed the case, I have no issue with Coach getting feisty at the refs. [/QUOTE]