Hurley, transfer portal, "total chaos"

[Palatine]

And it's even worse for football than it is for Hurley's sport.

"In a different time, success in college basketball was about program building and player and personal development and continuity. Now, it feels a lot more like free agency or programs that are just putting together a one-year team.”

Hurley is right on the money. And wait until they add paying players to the mix. It will get worse. Dom Amore: UConn coach Dan Hurley calls it ‘total chaos’ in college basketball as new rules allow flood of players into transfer portal

 

[Skiblets]

Thank you for your interest in UConn Football.

 

[ktuck911]

And it's even worse for football than it is for Hurley's sport.

"In a different time, success in college basketball was about program building and player and personal development and continuity. Now, it feels a lot more like free agency or programs that are just putting together a one-year team.”

Hurley is right on the money. And wait until they add paying players to the mix. It will get worse. Dom Amore: UConn coach Dan Hurley calls it ‘total chaos’ in college basketball as new rules allow flood of players into transfer portal

For Hurley it only feels like that but I don't think he's gonna be building UConn MBB up like a one year team. He understands the culture part. 2021 will indeed be a little different, but we'll be OK.

 

[Palatine]

For Hurley it only feels like that but I don't think he's gonna be building UConn MBB up like a one year team. He understands the culture part. 2021 will indeed be a little different, but we'll be OK.

The real difference is that UConn basketball is a "have." They will do nicely in the portal era.

Uconn football is a "have not" and we're going to get pillaged.

 

[John]

The real difference is that UConn basketball is a "have." They will do nicely in the portal era.

Uconn football is a "have not" and we're going to get pillaged.

Not so sure about that. Right now UConn MBB is still a damaged brand in a second tier conference.

 

[Hoophound]

Not so sure about that. Right now UConn MBB is still a damaged brand in a second tier conference.

It’s a resurgent brand in a very good conference.

 

[John]

It’s a resurgent brand in a very good conference.

very good second tier conference.

 

[Adios]

I'd be very worried about big money programs offering pay to the best G5 and independent players.

 

[UCFBfan]

The real difference is that UConn basketball is a "have." They will do nicely in the portal era.

Uconn football is a "have not" and we're going to get pillaged.

I disagree on this. I really see this transfer policy have the opposite effect. I see the top players at G5 schools going to P5 schools but they won't be as many as everyone envisions. Football just requires more time to integrate players and have them learn a system. I don't know if I see too many stand outs at a G5 wanting to transfer to a P5 to be a back up. Granted, they could move up to a lower tier P5 and likely start.

I see more P5 players who are stuck behind players moving to G5 schools and getting PT earlier. You'll see these G5 schools "scout" P5 depth players for when/if they enter the portal. It's going to change recruiting.

I think basketball is going to have a bigger impact because you have players who stay for a year or two. So getting a player to transfer for a year and then possibly leave is easy to do. You can easily build a winning program with pillaged top players from other schools. I think CBB is going to be impacted a lot more than CFB.

 

[gioff2323]

Like UCFB, I feel this can be a good thing for a program like UConn, IF the staff looks to the portal to add talent. Not everyone there has a problem; some kids don’t fit the staff, the scheme, the school. It’s ok.

Sure, we may lose a few kids who feel they’ve become too good for us. But for everyone of those kids, there are 10 in the portal who could come in and contribute.

We should not be afraid of the portal. We should embrace it. Sprinkling in a handful of kids who have P5 talent w/a goal to get them on the field quickly, should be the perfect complement to developing 15-20 unpolished 2-3 stars every year.

My concern is our espoused fear is a reflection of a staff who is concerned they can’t build a culture unless they found the kid initially. For a program like ours, the portal has to be part of the path forward.

 

[DoctorWho85]

I see this as a net positive for UConn Football. Sure we might get a good player poached once in a while, but we can pick up a couple transfers that can add depth and play immediately at thin positions. Basketball will be fine. No one will be poaching our players except the NBA.

 

[Palatine]

We already lost two NFL caliber players to the more lax senior transfer rules.

How can you look at further easing and think it will good for us?

 

[huskysupporter]

The real difference is that UConn basketball is a "have." They will do nicely in the portal era.

Uconn football is a "have not" and we're going to get pillaged.

Not trying to be a downer but what is their to pillage? That’s why I think it might be good for UCONN if Edsall decides to get off the dinosaur.

Yes, they would likely lose some starters to P5 and G5 schools. But they would also be able to nab some players that can be solid starters for this program.

I sound like a broken record but without a doubt the rich will get richer. Schools like Alabama and Clemson can pluck whoever they want from lower levels.

 

[Palatine]

UConn fans and media constantly under estimate our talent. We produce very good players and NFL prospects almost every year. And the players we lose are usually our best and most experienced players. We are turning into a minor league team developing players for bigger and better programs at our own expense.

 

[UCFBfan]

UConn fans and media constantly under estimate our talent. We produce very good players and NFL prospects almost every year. And the players we lose are usually our best and most experienced players. We are turning into a minor league team developing players for bigger and better programs at our own expense.

This won't be a UConn specific issue. All G5 and lower will basically be minor league programs for the big boys. Heck, even some lower end P5 schools will join that list. The top tier schools will be able to take who they want and there's nothing anyone can do about it. It's going to be the reality. It's like others said, we need to turn around and use the portal to our advantage. I also think there will be more HS talent available than before because schools will look more towards college players on current rosters over your 3 star players who might be depth at big time schools.

 

[CL82]

very good second tier conference.

Of course that would be a second tier conference whose members have won maybe 9 titles in the last 25 years.

 

[John]

Of course that would be a second tier conference whose members have won maybe 9 titles in the last 25 years.

Take off your basketball goggles.

 

[CL82]

Take off your basketball goggles.

Oh you’re right, the Big East isn’t a good football conference. 🙄

 

[Hoophound]

If Edsall can’t work the portal in his favor, that will be the last blow to his career. He needs to take advantage of the portal or the portal will take advantage of him.
He can’t allow a narrative to start that makes leaving UConn for P5 schools a regular thing, nor can he not chase players in the portal. He needs to be a shark on this.

 

[Slick]

If Edsall can’t work the portal in his favor, that will be the last blow to his career. He needs to take advantage of the portal or the portal will take advantage of him.
He can’t allow a narrative to start that makes leaving UConn for P5 schools a regular thing, nor can he not chase players in the portal. He needs to be a shark on this.

He has had a major issue in the past because UConn doesn’t have the places to hide academically that they need. Many of the players even from very good schools really have accomplished almost nothing academically so it has been difficult getting them in. Do you think new president is more lenient with football?

 

[John]

Oh you’re right, the Big East isn’t a good football conference. 🙄

It's not an all-sports conference so automatically second tier regardless of how many titles can be claimed in one particular sport.

 

[CL82]

It's not an all-sports conference so automatically second tier regardless of how many titles can be claimed in one particular sport.

So below Conference USA and Mid America conferences for instance?

 

[John]

So below Conference USA and Mid America conferences for instance?

I'm referring to P5 all-sports here. The Big East is closer to the two conferences that you mention than they are to the P5 ones that I'm referring to.

 

[CL82]

I'm referring to P5 all-sports here. The Big East is closer to the two conferences that you mention than they are to the P5 ones that I'm referring to.

Well other than in national championships, right?

 

[John]

Well other than in national championships, right?

In one sport.

 

[DoctorWho85]

In one sport.

Actually several sports. But I'm sure you don't count the non revenue sports.

 

[CL82]

In one sport.

You night want to check Google on that my friend.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

UConn fans and media constantly under estimate our talent. We produce very good players and NFL prospects almost every year. And the players we lose are usually our best and most experienced players. We are turning into a minor league team developing players for bigger and better programs at our own expense.

I think its too early to be an alarmist yet. Three guys transferred up. Davis graduated, went to GTech at a time when they needed leadership during a time of transition. His production wasn't all that great there but he became a pro prospect after spending time at a performance center, bulked up to 252 and got his 40 time to 4.6 at their Pro Day and probably killed any interview. What was left was Rose and Medlock. Very ok with that. DeGeorge went to Louisville, came in as the 6th OL, was versatile enough to play OG or OT and played well I believe for them at OT. Good for him. Maybe he is a better OT than OG. Here he was getting replaced at OG after the Indiana game because he was getting push around and only got his job back because his replacement got injured. No wonder he left. Coyle followed his head coach and position coach to another school. Its a shame he got hurt plus having a shortened season . Did he choose to leave after the guy that brought him into Purdue got fired? who knows. Coyle was great at running guys down but singularly or collectively they were not going to make a difference in wins and losses here when the front seven is getting mauled and opposing teams are averaging 280 yds/game and 7yds a pop on the ground plus having a tough time pressuring the QB on top of it the last two years. Thats it, three senior/grad guys. I would think more P5 guys dropping down for playing time would be how the pendulum swings.

 

[gioff2323]

I find it humorous that after years of complaining about D2/RKG talent on the roster, we now fear losing that talent to P5.

At this stage, the disco crew is gone. Everyone here was recruited by this staff, stayed thru woeful seasons, and a pandemic. Why leave now?

If you’re in fear of the new rule, you simply don’t feel we can attract players here. More you fear each Travis Jones will, from here on out, leave after completing the Edsall polishing program.

Who in the NFL today left UCONN via the portal? Davis? This new rule would not have effected him - he was a grad xfr. Who else? Coyle? No offense, but he barely saw the field there. If he stayed, he’d have watched just like us.

This is batsh1+ crazy that we think this new rule is a net negative for us.

 

[Ldandy]

I find it humorous that after years of complaining about D2/RKG talent on the roster, we now fear losing that talent to P5.

At this stage, the disco crew is gone. Everyone here was recruited by this staff, stayed thru woeful seasons, and a pandemic. Why leave now?

If you’re in fear of the new rule, you simply don’t feel we can attract players here. More you fear each Travis Jones will, from here on out, leave after completing the Edsall polishing program.

Who in the NFL today left UCONN via the portal? Davis? This new rule would not have effected him - he was a grad xfr. Who else? Coyle? No offense, but he barely saw the field there. If he stayed, he’d have watched just like us.

This is batsh1+ crazy that we think this new rule is a net negative for us.

Agreed. Yes it would suck if UConn developed a kid into a star and they left as a Jr or Sr to go fill a hole on a P5 Roster. That said if the coaches are doing their jobs correctly and building relationships that happening would be rare.

The overwhelming majority of the time the kids UConn will lose are non contributors dropping down to a more appropriate level of competition like FCS or moving to a different G5 Program closer to home.

UConn should be absolutely hammering the portal every year to bring in talent. Most kids in the portal aren’t discipline or grade casualties, they’re kids passed over on their current depth chart.

If I was coaching a G5 School I would leave a minimum of 5 slots open for transfers every year. Just because you can’t get these kids out of HS doesn’t mean you can’t land them the second time around.