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We lack the mature senior who can get a bucket.

AK is a battle tested veteran but he’s not a “ go get some buckets and stop the bleeding “ ISO guy

We had 2 last year Newton and Cam
 
We lack the mature senior who can get a bucket.

AK is a battle tested veteran but he’s not a “ go get some buckets and stop the bleeding “ ISO guy

We had 2 last year Newton and Cam
And Castle honestly. We’re missing anyone - regardless of age - who is really primarily a shot creator. McNeeley is great but he’s more of a maxed out Karaban in that even in HS he was more of an amazing secondary option than go to scorer. Ball can’t drive/finish as the rim well enough and Karaban is too slow foot speed wise to effectively take his man off the dribble as well.

Hoping for an offseason jump for Solo/another sophomore and/or the incoming freshmen get buckets for next year. For this year have to hope we can scrounge up enough points from somewhere each game
 
I'm fine admitting that this team isn't championship caliber. It would have been other-worldly to be a contender again given the amount of talent that has left over the past two seasons. The margin for error on the roster adds was very thin, and we missed on one of them. People seem to have forgotten that winning championships is really hard (which can happen when you basically average a championship every four years over a quarter century).

There are pieces on the roster, and what looks to be a very good freshman class coming in. No reason we can't be back in it next year and the year after if we can supplement well in the portal.
I think it's apparent at this point that Flagg is REALLY good and is a difference maker for the team that got him. Imagine if we had him now. Need bucket, he gets a bucket.
 
I love Dan Hurley but he should have been pumping the brakes on the threepeat chatter this off season rather than leaning into it. Not sure if he genuinely mis-evaluated the talent of this team or he decided that was the correct motivational tact but not great.

This is a top 15 or so team with McNeeley and borderline top 25 team without. Offensively, they're running the same sets but no one is a scoring option at all so it's all just empty motions. Last year you had every single kid on the floor who could get a bucket. This year Karaban can't handle being the alpha on offense, Ball is just exploring how to do anything other than shoot 3's really well and everyone else is up and down. Defensively, they're just not good and I'm not sure it's something fixable during the season. The sophomores are terrible (Ross is the best of the bunch and for a supposed defensive stopper hasn't shown much) and even the vets like Karaban or Diarra are getting a bit exposed (Karaban isolated one on one with no center behind him is ugly and Hass made his bones gambling for steals etc. and can't now).

Dan Hurley infamously decided after New Mexico that he needed offense and could teach good offensive players to player defense, but I think even he underestimated how much work this group needed.
Great post you nailed it
 
He missed on Mahaney's ability to run the point or deal with physicality of Big East, and he overestimated his staffs ability to defensively coach up more offensive minded players to "the standard".

note-many of us thought he missed on Newton too, and were wrong, so story isnt written yet...
Besides Newton he's had a bit of blind spot filling the PG position. Hass doing better than I thought he would but he doesn't have a complete game and too much is on his shoulders.
 
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I just got a chance to listen to tonight's post game and I'm glad he brought up the integrity of the sport related to officiating biases going into games. I brought this up earlier this year and some people thought I was crazy. It is a huge deal and is something that should be talked about.
 
Yea, using the portal is proving to not be as "can't miss" as people would think.

Every season has had some "sure fire hits" turn into absolute busts and wastes of NIL money.

Let's be honest, Hunter Dickinson has been a huge disappointment for Kansas x 2 seasons now (for what he should have brought to that team).

Timberlake was a big bust.

Coleman Hawkins has been one of the biggest wastes of NIL money in the history of NIL so far.

Oumar Ballo has put up some good stats but has brought apathy and poor attitude to Indiana.
You can add Storr to the list for Kansas. People thought he was going to be a cheat code for them.
 
I think it's apparent at this point that Flagg is REALLY good and is a difference maker for the team that got him. Imagine if we had him now. Need bucket, he gets a bucket.
Which is why so many were discouraged. Kid probably could have been on a team that would have won three in a row. Much better legacy than winning one with Dook before moving on. That was the whole point of the major disappointment. I think deep down we kind of all knew it might be a rough year just no one wanted to be the person to bring it up.

Yes with Liam and all the other parts playing their roles perfectly we are a second weekend team but with the other guy ceiling was much higher.

Also it has become pretty clear that there is not much difference between Reed and Samson and you could say the last several games we are better with Samson on the floor. Mahaney well what else I’d there to say…..
 
Which is why so many were discouraged. Kid probably could have been on a team that would have won three in a row. Much better legacy than winning one with Dook before moving on. That was the whole point of the major disappointment. I think deep down we kind of all knew it might be a rough year just no one wanted to be the person to bring it up.

Yes with Liam and all the other parts playing their roles perfectly we are a second weekend team but with the other guy ceiling was much higher.

Also it has become pretty clear that there is not much difference between Reed and Samson and you could say the last several games we are better with Samson on the floor. Mahaney well what else I’d there to say…..
Flagg is unreal but what is forgotten is the talent level around him. Let’s count the 5 stars. Even without good coaching with that much talent they will be good.
How good? Picture adding 3 or 4 more Liam level players to our roster and what it would do.
 
We were never going to have a total reload after 2 chips, we just weren't. Florida went 8-8 in conference and only made the NIT semis after their two championships.

What are our issues?
  • Total misrecruit of Mahaney
  • Too little shot creation on the roster
  • low basketball IQ defenders we figured we could coach up... and didn't.
We're not a bad team. Still top-25 with McNeeley. We're just comparing ourselves to one of the most perfectly constructed rosters of all time last year.
Need to change the offense. Go to throwing it into Reed and let him go to work. Surround him with shooters. Hurley has to change the offense to fit this team for this year due to lack of talent.

Hurley also needs to not have Diarra throwing acrobatic layups and three pointers. That’s not his game. Nowell should be in before Mahaney to relieve Diarra. Hurley also can’t have Karaban be option 1 or 2 on offense. When McNeeley is in he’s option 1 and Solo is option 2. After that it’s whoever’s open.

But the offense can still score as of now. Our defense needs to really get better bc I’m not sure if we’ll be able to go bucket for bucket with teams this hear. The defense is terrible and I think it’s a combo of three things - IQ, effort/toughness, and being flat-footed/standing straight up.
 
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Flagg is unreal but what is forgotten is the talent level around him. Let’s count the 5 stars. Even without good coaching with that much talent they will be good.
How good? Picture adding 3 or 4 more Liam level players to our roster and what it would do.
But they have that every year and are not this good. He makes everyone around him level up. He clearly is a generational player and we are trying to accomplish something that is more like a once every other generation accomplishment. To me it just felt that should have been the closer and it was not.

Look at all the other teams look at Rutgers, Kansas, Arkansas even Kentucky with their googles of 5 stars but they are beatable. Dook and Auburn are the class of CBB and we all kind of knew Dook was going to ride this kid to places they have not gotten to recently. Hence the anger and frustration.

I really think Liam may be the 2nd or 3rd best freshman in the country but generational is generational and he makes everyone better much better. So kind of to your post Flagg is making higher skill set players all better. And I am over the 5 stars high school kids. Give me a real good junior portal player over most 5 stars.
 
Watching this now the only thing I take "issue" with is him legit saying we are a bad defensive team and that he's considered changes to the schemes but that previous years were very successful with it so we'll stay the course. It's a stubborn viewpoint imo and not really playing to the team's strengths/weaknesses, etc. I remember thinking JC was maddening at times because he ran the same stuff offensively pretty much regardless of personnel. Dan Hurley is following the same blueprint defensively. We have bad individual defenders, our help defense is non-existent (how many straight line layups/dunks do we give up?), our hedging is ridiculously aggressive and forces bad defenders to rotate. It's been the same thing since the Memphis game (with some improvement obviously) and the rationale is, "well, we've been successful with this scheme before so we'll stick with it."

I think we are very soft and flawed and even if we had McNeeley throughout and were now 15-3 the same issues are still there. I feel like, for the first time in years, we've becoming fairly easily to gameplan/prepare for.
Ive been saying it all season. A pack line style defense would be perfect for this team. Virginia used it with the same type of rosters as we have this year. It helps keep our guys in defensive position for rebounds and prevents penetration.

I've always had my eye on next year after we spent this whole year developing our players. Ball should definitely stay. If McNeeley is outside the lottery I think he should stay too. He probably wont though. My worry is that Nowell is not getting enough run to be able to hand over the reigns to him next year. We dont have enough guys strong with the ball.
 
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Solo Ball is a flat out scorer who is getting better at what he does best. The problem is that he is as bad a defender at this level as I hope he can been. Overall, I am confused actually baffled at the lack of defensive footwork on thiis team. Allowing anyone to get to the sideline then the baseline as well as into the middle with no effort to take space away and for the most part non-effective rotation to help just confuses me. They are all athletic enough to tighten things up. I am a man to man guy all the way but you have to be able to get it done. It isn’t Mahaney’s fault entirely that he is exposed defensively by some mediocre college players. If he wants to actually use him and get something out of him, I think that it is kind of obvious that the defensive scheme has to change At least when he is on the court. I would also kind of like to see both centers get the green light to shoot 10 foot jump shots. Them not being guarded at all at the foul line and above makes it almost impossible for anyone to penetrate to the rim even if they wanted to.
 
But they have that every year and are not this good. He makes everyone around him level up. He clearly is a generational player and we are trying to accomplish something that is more like a once every other generation accomplishment. To me it just felt that should have been the closer and it was not.

Look at all the other teams look at Rutgers, Kansas, Arkansas even Kentucky with their googles of 5 stars but they are beatable. Dook and Auburn are the class of CBB and we all kind of knew Dook was going to ride this kid to places they have not gotten to recently. Hence the anger and frustration.

I really think Liam may be the 2nd or 3rd best freshman in the country but generational is generational and he makes everyone better much better. So kind of to your post Flagg is making higher skill set players all better. And I am over the 5 stars high school kids. Give me a real good junior portal player over most 5 stars.
Hurley has done it without loads of 5 stars granted but Duke has tipped the scale so much with them that even without Flagg they could be a top 20 team this year. We lose our one 5 star Liam and we are struggling.
Hurley also has us as one of the top offenses in the country but the defense has been the bugaboo. Don’t know if he can fix that. Calhoun was able to get that defense out of lesser players, they played with the intensity of junkyard dogs.
 
Yea, using the portal is proving to not be as "can't miss" as people would think.

Every season has had some "sure fire hits" turn into absolute busts and wastes of NIL money.

Let's be honest, Hunter Dickinson has been a huge disappointment for Kansas x 2 seasons now (for what he should have brought to that team).

Timberlake was a big bust.

Coleman Hawkins has been one of the biggest wastes of NIL money in the history of NIL so far.

Oumar Ballo has put up some good stats but has brought apathy and poor attitude to Indiana.
It would be more than interesting for a deep dive on the results of the transfers from the portal at least for the top 25 teams as to productivity, etc. I bet the success rate is a lot less than people realize. Why? Well, there's several reasons but one main one is they just weren't good enough in the scheme of things at the Div I level to get the playing time they thought they should have. And why? Because they maybe just don't have the talent that they were recruited for? Of course, there's always exceptions, like Cam for one, but is he the rarity or the norm? I'd say the rarity. So the portal may not be the best place to look for answers.
 
Its just so not fair to say these defensive problems are will, hunger, and softness issues that other teams didn’t have when the other team had the best rim protector this decade.

Guys from last year’s team did not look like great defenders when Clingan was out. Cam Spencer especially got abused on drives (and it wasn’t a “want to thing” because the effort was there)
Watch Solo Ball for a few possessions on defense you'll totally see the difference in "want to" between him and Cam. The guy just accepts screens without even trying to fight over under or through. He just watches the ball in the air instead of boxing out or getting in better rebounding position. Those are the 'want to" plays Ball doesn't make and Cam always did. Ball is the guy Hurley was referring to as too nice and soft without a doubt.
 
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It would be more than interesting for a deep dive on the results of the transfers from the portal at least for the top 25 teams as to productivity, etc. I bet the success rate is a lot less than people realize. Why? Well, there's several reasons but one main one is they just weren't good enough in the scheme of things at the Div I level to get the playing time they thought they should have. And why? Because they maybe just don't have the talent that they were recruited for? Of course, there's always exceptions, like Cam for one, but is he the rarity or the norm? I'd say the rarity. So the portal may not be the best place to look for answers.
The transfers that UConn basketball considers are not ones that are leaving their teams due to lack of playing time. The football team is a different story.
 
Flagg is unreal but what is forgotten is the talent level around him. Let’s count the 5 stars. Even without good coaching with that much talent they will be good.
How good? Picture adding 3 or 4 more Liam level players to our roster and what it would do.

You're overrating the rest of the roster. They're pretty good, and Flagg is a huge difference maker.
 
You're overrating the rest of the roster. They're pretty good, and Flagg is a huge difference maker.
At Montverde, it was McNeeley, not Flagg that the offense ran through. Not that he was a point guard, but his court vision, knowledge of the offensive schemes, was critical and often he was given the ball from the point guard to initiate offense.

That said, Flagg is a 6'9" jet engine so yeah, he is their main guy.
 
Ive been saying it all season. A pack line style defense would be perfect for this team.

Going to a packline entirely changes the way we play. Force middle vs force baseline. Complately different rotations. IMO it makes much more sense to add in a zone than it does to rebuild our man defense from the group up.
 
If McNeeley didn't get hurt we would be 15-3, we would be talking about how we haven't lost on the mainland, we would be talking about how great Hass has been, and we would be talking about going 18-3 before our huge top 10 matchup against Marquette.
^^^^^^This. Spot on.
 
You're overrating the rest of the roster. They're pretty good, and Flagg is a huge difference maker.
2 transfers that were arguably best players on their teams last year too, along with a 6 man off an NC team. These guys are all men, not boys, which offsets the youth. Starting to think when Hurley goes portal he needs to find old guys that bring that senior toughness, not developmentals. Development is great and all, but reality is that they all don’t develop into what you want, so go get a couple iron clad older mercenaries you can plug in.
 
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2 transfers that were arguably best players on their teams last year too, along with a 6 man off an NC team. These guys are all men, not boys, which offsets the youth. Starting to think when Hurley goes portal he needs to find old guys that bring that senior toughness, not developmentals. Development is great and all, but reality is that they all don’t develop into what you want, so go get a couple iron clad older mercenaries you can plug in.
Who? Are you talking about Sion James who averaged 14 ppg for a horrendous Tulane team who finished 14-17 and 5-13 in the AAC and who is now averaging 7.5 ppg for Duke? Are you taking about Maliq Brown who averaged 9.5 ppg for a weak Syracuse team and is now averaging 2.5 ppg for Duke?
 
Who? Are you talking about Sion James who averaged 14 ppg for a horrendous Tulane team who finished 14-17 and 5-13 in the AAC and who is now averaging 7.5 ppg for Duke? Are you taking about Maliq Brown who averaged 9.5 ppg for a weak Syracuse team and is now averaging 2.5 ppg for Duke?
Brown is a GREAT versatile defender. He is one of the few guys I’ve seen play Broome really well, and can play 2-5 defensively. Problem is he’s been banged up but was a 20-25 minute guy. Not sure you’ve noticed but our defense is abysmal, and not sure if you recall how well having strong defensive guys like Jackson and Castle helps, despite their offensive challenges at times.

Sion is a 5th year guy built like a war tank and starting.

No one said you need to go find centerpieces in the portal buddy, you need roster and makeup balance and pieces to play matchups. I’ve come to realize you enjoy the devils advocacy with or without merit.
 
Brown is a GREAT versatile defender. He is one of the few guys I’ve seen play Broome really well, and can play 2-5 defensively. Problem is he’s been banged up but was a 20-25 minute guy. Not sure you’ve noticed but our defense is abysmal, and not sure if you recall how well having strong defensive guys like Jackson and Castle helps, despite their offensive challenges at times.

Sion is a 5th year guy built like a war tank and starting.

No one said you need to go find centerpieces in the portal buddy, you need roster and makeup balance and pieces to play matchups. I’ve come to realize you enjoy the devils advocacy with or without merit.
I've come to realize your obsession with everything Duke leads you to hyperbolic bloviating when it comes to them...

Sion James and Maliq Brown who kill men by the hundreds and if they were here they would consume their opponents with fireballs from their eyes and bolts of lightning from their arses.
 
Besides Newton he's had a bit of blind spot filling the PG position. Hass doing better than I thought he would but he doesn't have a complete game and too much is on his shoulders.at
The blind spot in filling the PG position remains a problem for next year, because as things now stand, it's Mahaney and Nowell. If we cannot find a true, experienced PG in the portal, we are in trouble.
 
I've come to realize your obsession with everything Duke leads you to hyperbolic bloviating when it comes to them...

Sion James and Maliq Brown who kill men by the hundreds and if they were here they would consume their opponents with fireballs from their eyes and bolts of lightning from their arses.
The irony is that I have no obsession with them - I have an awareness for them as a fan of the sport (tune into a podcast, I'm not alone), and a curiousity to how their unique roster makeup will work. This feels a lot more like your obsession with what you perceive as an obsession and some oddball anti-Duke thing you have going on. Go back to the fiddle.
 
UConn is a good team not a great team …. But good teams can make the elite 8 and then see what happens ( matchup and do they up their play ) . This is what normally happens with good teams most years . What isn’t said enough nationally is HOW MUCH Liam is missed. We all love Alex but Liam is our best player and his presence on the court makes every one else more effective . If he can come back we should win every home game and road games except for Marquette , Creighton and St. John’s . We can compete in those .
 
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