Hurley Pre Game Press Providence

[Dooch]

As always, Dan Hurley seems incapable of explaining his actions in anything resembling coherency. To the extent that any two consecutive sentences do make sense, they merely echo platitudes expressed on this forum. More often they make no sense, as when he was asked if he has considered starting Reed over Johnson. His response was pure babble.

I believe you mistook this forum for the Providence forums...

 

[305Husk]

As always, Dan Hurley seems incapable of explaining his actions in anything resembling coherency. To the extent that any two consecutive sentences do make sense, they merely echo platitudes expressed on this forum. More often they make no sense, as when he was asked if he has considered starting Reed over Johnson. His response was pure babble.

Guess it's time for a new coach

 

[Deleted at users request]

It’s so easy to win B2B titles without a single game within 12 points that no one’s done it in forever. Weird how that works!

I said what I said man. This was the year to show he could do it without a roster head and shoulders better than everyone else. Maybe we’ll bounce back next year.

 

[Gurleyman]

One could argue you have that backwards. Who literally says they are “the best coach in the country” and then throws this stink pot out there??? THIS is the year that should show his coaching prowess, not last year when he had a generational team w 4 NBA players on it. Why is that so hard for people to grasp and admit?

What made it a generational team? I mean, Newton and Spencer are the fringiest of fringe NBA players - a couple games so far between them on their two ways, and their future is probably in Europe. And the other 2 missed good chunks of the season last year. Clingan overachieved many people’s projections coming in by a mile … and Castle was a role player when he came back from injury. It definitely wasn’t some sort of a generational team based on raw talent. The Arkansas team we beat by 50 probably had more. Or look at our past teams. The 2005 team had five first round picks: Gay, Williams, Boone, Armstrong, and Villanueva (and Denham Brown (who was drafted in the second round). Lost in the second round. The 2012 flameout team had Napier, Lamb, Drummond and Oriakhi (who was drafted in the second round). The 2009 Final Four team had Price, Kemba, Thabeet, Adrien and Robinson (who was drafted in the second round) - and an injured Dyson. NBA players don’t make a team generational.

This year the same things (injuries to key players) that we were able to overcome set us back. McNeeley’s injury hit at a bad time when we were starting to have it come together with him as the lead dog. Castle could ease his way in last year in a way McNeeley can’t and other than the one Creighton explosion, he has been off his game. And the combination of Diarra’s knees, Mahaney not working out, and Nowell’s injuries/lack of impact has left us with a big problem (especially next to a shooting guard without PG skills). Same problem that caused the 2005 and 2006 teams to underachieve (not enough guard play).

Some years it just doesn’t come together the way you hope and there’s no trading deadline to fix it - but we’ll see what happens this month.

 

[superjohn]

What made it a generational team? I mean, Newton and Spencer are the fringiest of fringe NBA players - a couple games so far between them on their two ways, and their future is probably in Europe. And the other 2 missed good chunks of the season last year. Clingan overachieved many people’s projections coming in by a mile … and Castle was a role player when he came back from injury. It definitely wasn’t some sort of a generational team based on raw talent. The Arkansas team we beat by 50 probably had more. Or look at our past teams. The 2005 team had five first round picks: Gay, Williams, Boone, Armstrong, and Villanueva (and Denham Brown (who was drafted in the second round). Lost in the second round. The 2012 flameout team had Napier, Lamb, Drummond and Oriakhi (who was drafted in the second round). The 2009 Final Four team had Price, Kemba, Thabeet, Adrien and Robinson (who was drafted in the second round) - and an injured Dyson. NBA players don’t make a team generational.

This year the same things (injuries to key players) that we were able to overcome set us back. McNeeley’s injury hit at a bad time when we were starting to have it come together with him as the lead dog. Castle could ease his way in last year in a way McNeeley can’t and other than the one Creighton explosion, he has been off his game. And the combination of Diarra’s knees, Mahaney not working out, and Nowell’s injuries/lack of impact has left us with a big problem (especially next to a shooting guard without PG skills). Same problem that caused the 2005 and 2006 teams to underachieve (not enough guard play).

Some years it just doesn’t come together the way you hope and there’s no trading deadline to fix it - but we’ll see what happens this month.

It's pretty wild that some posters aren't giving Hurley credit for the most dominant back to back championships of our lifetime. We had great players, every team that wins it has talent but he wasn't taking all-star teams and just rolling the ball out there and there were other teams with immense talent. That Arkansas team we curb stomped in the '23 tournament had 4 NBA guys on it. Kansas started Gradey D 1ck and Jalen Wilson on the wing. Duke had Lively, Filipowski, and Whitehead. UCLA had 4 NBA guys headlined by Jamie Jacquez. Kentucky had 5 fringy NBA players. Baylor was loaded. Houston had Marcus Sasser, Jamal Shead, Jarace Walker.

 

[Mr. French]

People say it was a generational team because it ended up being that, with Hurley coaching.

Somehow, now the last 2 teams were just so dang talented and above everyone else that Hurley just rolled the ball out. Now without all of his 5*s and lotto picks he can't coach and he's embarrassing us.

Makes sense to me!

 

[Gurleyman]

People say it was a generational team because it ended up being that, with Hurley coaching.

Somehow, now the last 2 teams were just so dang talented and above everyone else that Hurley just rolled the ball out. Now without all of his 5*s and lotto picks he can't coach and he's embarrassing us.

Makes sense to me!

lol. But going to have to correct you on your grammar. It’s 5* - ie singular. We only had one.

And when we got to the final four, the other team’s game plan was to not even bother guarding him. Not like he carried us to the title.

 

[Mr. French]

lol. But going to have to correct you on your grammar. It’s 5* - ie singular. We only had one.

And when we got to the final four, the other team’s game plan was to not even bother guarding him. Not like he carried us to the title.

Is this serious? My post was sarcasm. I know he only had 1 5 star and that talented 5 star didn't carry us. That's MY point.

 

[Scoe]

What can I say fire Hurley since he won’t 3 peat right @uconngb and @HuskyWarrior611.

 

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What can I say fire Hurley since he won’t 3 peat right @uconngb and @HuskyWarrior611.

Nope. There’s no coach I’d rather have. He just has flaws but they’re very fixable.

The basis for being a great coach is collecting great talent and there’s nobody in the country better at it than Hurley. Hes also the best culture builder and motivator.

 

[Banta55]

I mean, yeah this is pretty true.

It’s pretty easy to coach when you have the best roster in the country to start the year 2 years in a row.

This was a time where kids needed to develop throughout the year to get to where we needed. And it hasn’t gone very well.

He’s been coaching like we had a roster that was ready to win it at the start of the year instead of a roster that needed to grow to win it.

Are you serious, or have you been drinking?

 

[RuffRuff]

Are you serious, or have you been drinking?

Dude has a serious indulgence in long term development, which doesn’t pair up well with the winning marketplace in today’s college landscape. It’s as though you should stay committed to your underdeveloped C- HS project recruit when there are ready to go available player upgrades in the portal, that of which every other top coach will be grabbing to do the same. I get the pride in developing your own and winning with it, but when it’s obvious after 2 years a player doesn’t have it, upgrade or get left behind.

The beauty of the portal is that you can fix mistakes.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Dude has a serious indulgence in long term development, which doesn’t pair up well with the winning marketplace in today’s college landscape. It’s as though you should stay committed to your underdeveloped C- HS project recruit when there are ready to go available player upgrades in the portal, that of which every other top coach will be grabbing to do the same. I get the pride in developing your own and winning with it, but when it’s obvious after 2 years a player doesn’t have it, upgrade or get left behind.

The beauty of the portal is that you can fix mistakes.

You should go root for Kansas thinking like that.

They get the best portal players every year and pay big bags to do it. You’ll be happy to have your pick of the litter

 

[Scoe]

Dude has a serious indulgence in long term development, which doesn’t pair up well with the winning marketplace in today’s college landscape. It’s as though you should stay committed to your underdeveloped C- HS project recruit when there are ready to go available player upgrades in the portal, that of which every other top coach will be grabbing to do the same. I get the pride in developing your own and winning with it, but when it’s obvious after 2 years a player doesn’t have it, upgrade or get left behind.

The beauty of the portal is that you can fix mistakes.

So Tarris Reed was a bad transfer? Sorry he’s not Clingan.

 

[RuffRuff]

So Tarris Reed wasn’t an upgrade, sorry he’s not Clingan.

Clingan left for the draft and was a lottery pick. Not an upgrade situation, was a get best player available to fill the hole.

An upgrade was a TNewt at PG, moving off a home grown that wasn’t working.

 

[RuffRuff]

You should go root for Kansas thinking like that.

They get the best portal players every year and pay big bags to do it. You’ll be happy to have your pick of the litter

Or Bama, Auburn, Florida, Tenn, StJ, list goes on. For every Kansas there are 10 teams doing it to win.

Self will also figure out it’s not worth getting another high D1s broken goods and stick to up coming mid majors. He just hasn’t yet.

Like I said you can always jump on with Shaka and Painter to watch their undermanned teams flame out early in the dance. The reality is they’ll catch on at some point too, or get left behind.

 

[Scoe]

Nope. There’s no coach I’d rather have. He just has flaws but they’re very fixable.

The basis for being a great coach is collecting great talent and there’s nobody in the country better at it than Hurley. Hes also the best culture builder and motivator.

Ok thats fair, the Mahaney move was a huge miss. I just watched the 2023 tournament game VCU vs St Mary’s and Mahaney was over matched in that game, even picked up a 10 second violation had trouble bringing the ball up the court, in fact he was benched the rest of the game after he picked up his 4th foul.

 

[superjohn]

You should go root for Kansas thinking like that.

They get the best portal players every year and pay big bags to do it. You’ll be happy to have your pick of the litter

Or he could root for Auburn, Duke, Florida, Houston, Tennessee, Alabama, St. John's, Iowa State, Texas Tech etc.

 

[Scoe]

Clingan left for the draft and was a lottery pick. Not an upgrade situation, was a get best player available to fill the hole.

An upgrade was a TNewt at PG, moving off a home grown that wasn’t working.

I had the wrong wording there, fixed it.

 

[RuffRuff]

Ok thats fair, the Mahaney move was a huge miss. I just watched the 2023 tournament game VCU vs St Mary’s and Mahaney was over matched in that game, even picked up a 10 second violation had trouble bringing the ball up the court, in fact he was benched the rest of the game after he picked up his 4th foul.

Yeah similar to Grand Canyon the following who was really athletic. He was turnstiled all game. A really really bad miss and really the first this staff has made this bad. They’ll learn. Would love it if we got more color around their thought process there at some point because wildly perplexing.

 

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Or Bama, Auburn, Florida, Tenn, StJ, list goes on. For every Kansas there are 10 teams doing it to win.

Self will also figure out it’s not worth getting another high D1s broken goods and stick to up coming mid majors. He just hasn’t yet.

Like I said you can always jump on with Shaka and Painter to watch their undermanned teams flame out early in the dance. The reality is they’ll catch on at some point too, or get left behind.

The portal can go either way.

It says a lot when the only two teams that go the homegrown route are both top 15 caliber every year. And they don’t even recruit at a high level.

Imagine if the schools who did followed the same plan. They probably wouldn’t be losing their conference for the first time in 20 years.

It’s also wild to keep saying that about Purdue like they didn’t just go to the championship last year (and surprise, they have another 7’4 freshman waiting in the wings currently). And Marquette made the sweet 16.

They were pretty good lol

 

[Deleted at users request]

Ok thats fair, the Mahaney move was a huge miss. I just watched the 2023 tournament game VCU vs St Mary’s and Mahaney was over matched in that game, even picked up a 10 second violation had trouble bringing the ball up the court, in fact he was benched the rest of the game after he picked up his 4th foul.

It was and it’s part of the flaws. I’m not sure how someone who identifies such great talent can misread a roster like he did this year.

I have a theory, but know it’ll get me cooked on the board.

 

[Travelman6]

As always, Dan Hurley seems incapable of explaining his actions in anything resembling coherency. To the extent that any two consecutive sentences do make sense, they merely echo platitudes expressed on this forum. More often they make no sense, as when he was asked if he has considered starting Reed over Johnson. His response was pure babble.

So are you saying you know better than a 2x champ?

 

[Scoe]

It was and it’s part of the flaws. I’m not sure how someone who identifies such great talent can misread a roster like he did this year.

I have a theory, but know it’ll get me cooked on the board.

Let’s hear it, it’s a message board.

 

[Travelman6]

And yet they’re going to win 20+ games and make the tournament for the 5th straight season. Something the great Jim Calhoun only did once. Things are soooo bad cry more

It's crazy how quickly some turn on Hurley. Calhoun was a LEGEND, plain and simple and even he had a few seasons that were pure stinkers but apparently Hurley needs to be perfect all the time.

 

[Mr. French]

So are you saying you know better than a 2x champ?

He is.

 

[UCFan1513]

Bingo

It's pretty wild that some posters aren't giving Hurley credit for the most dominant back to back championships of our lifetime. We had great players, every team that wins it has talent but he wasn't taking all-star teams and just rolling the ball out there and there were other teams with immense talent. That Arkansas team we curb stomped in the '23 tournament had 4 NBA guys on it. Kansas started Gradey D 1ck and Jalen Wilson on the wing. Duke had Lively, Filipowski, and Whitehead. UCLA had 4 NBA guys headlined by Jamie Jacquez. Kentucky had 5 fringy NBA players. Baylor was loaded. Houston had Marcus Sasser, Jamal Shead, Jarace Walker.

 

[RuffRuff]

The portal can go either way.

It says a lot when the only two teams that go the homegrown route are both top 15 caliber every year. And they don’t even recruit at a high level.

Imagine if the schools who did followed the same plan. They probably wouldn’t be losing their conference for the first time in 20 years.

It’s also wild to keep saying that about Purdue like they didn’t just go to the championship last year (and surprise, they have another 7’4 freshman waiting in the wings currently). And Marquette made the sweet 16.

They were pretty good lol

Sure it can but when done right and most top teams are doing it well, it’s the primary ingredient in winning.

Look at the top teams best players and they’re almost all transfers.

Auburn - Broome
Bama - Sears, Nelson
Tenn - Lanier
Florida - Clayton
Texas Tech - Toppin

There’s a ton more. These aren’t just players but best players, because they developed quicker elsewhere and ready for the prime time. Why in the world would you bypass that for risking unknown upside HS recruits?

Shaka and Painter are just two of the better all HS strategists, plenty behind them that aren’t worth talking about.

 

[RuffRuff]

And yet they’re going to win 20+ games and make the tournament for the 5th straight season. Something the great Jim Calhoun only did once. Things are soooo bad cry more

Any knocking of Hurley is so pointlessly stupid it’s not worth it even quarreling about. If you don’t love the guy go pull for another program.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Shaka and Painter are just two of the better all HS strategists, plenty behind them that aren’t worth talking about.

Like who?