Hurley never did this!

[LStudfellow]

It was the correct call.

Did you actually watch that replay? Where exactly does #2 on Notre Dame actually touch Ames on California as he goes into the act of shooting? He barely touches Ames, if he touches him at all. He doesn't impede Ames in any way from beginning to end while he gathers himself and then shoots. He obviously tries to grab him right before and right after midcourt, but that was not during the shooting process.

You are totally wrong to say it was the correct call. That was not a foul... and the only reason the ref made the call is that he was positioned about 2 feet too far into the front court, and therefore he had a bad angle and assumed the contact instead of actually seeing it.

I have no idea what you are seeing in that replay that suggests otherwise. So yes, it was a terrible call.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

There were a couple of things going on and each needs to be viewed individually.

1) the officials made a questionable call, reversed it, then reversed it again.

2) the head coach needed to be physically restrained to prevent him from attacking an official (which, when one attacks out of anger often leads to far more damage than intended).

However wrong the first item may have been, the second never should have transpired, period, end of story.

 

[Scoe]

I feel just as sorry for ND here as I felt sorry for their football team getting left out of the CFP, take a wild guess how sorry I feel for them.

 

[navery12]

Did you actually watch that replay? Where exactly does #2 on Notre Dame actually touch Ames on California as he goes into the act of shooting? He barely touches Ames, if he touches him at all. He doesn't impede Ames in any way from beginning to end while he gathers himself and then shoots. He obviously tries to grab him right before and right after midcourt, but that was not during the shooting process.

You are totally wrong to say it was the correct call. That was not a foul... and the only reason the ref made the call is that he was positioned about 2 feet too far into the front court, and therefore he had a bad angle and assumed the contact instead of actually seeing it.

I have no idea what you are seeing in that replay that suggests otherwise. So yes, it was a terrible call.

Right here. The Notre Dame defender is pushing him as he's in his shooting motion

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

He's lucky they were able to keep him from the ref as he'd likely be suspended at this point.

 

[gtcam]

You never hear about repercussions for the refs. It would be nice to hear a statement from the NCAA saying 'the ref blew the call which affected the outcome of the game. They have been suspended and will not officiate until they have received the proper training to prevent this from happening again. We apologize to Notre Dame, the players and HC Micah Shrewsberry'.

The call was so insanely bad and instead we get 'lol Micah Shrewsberry is crazy!' even when this could have bubble implications in a few months.

this is why the refs need to meet with the press after every game IF there is anything from the reporters end to discuss.
Players and coaches answer, why not refs?
This is why they feel untouchable.

 

[superjohn]

Did you actually watch that replay? Where exactly does #2 on Notre Dame actually touch Ames on California as he goes into the act of shooting? He barely touches Ames, if he touches him at all. He doesn't impede Ames in any way from beginning to end while he gathers himself and then shoots. He obviously tries to grab him right before and right after midcourt, but that was not during the shooting process.

You are totally wrong to say it was the correct call. That was not a foul... and the only reason the ref made the call is that he was positioned about 2 feet too far into the front court, and therefore he had a bad angle and assumed the contact instead of actually seeing it.

I have no idea what you are seeing in that replay that suggests otherwise. So yes, it was a terrible call.

 

[Ha Who]

I feel just as sorry for ND here as I felt sorry for their football team getting left out of the CFP, take a wild guess how sorry I feel for them.

Could care less maybe Terry D cares

 

[thekollieman]

let's agree that the officiating is about as bad as it can get

What!!!! Ref standing right there watching it… is that for real??

 

[slepers]

it was the correct call, he extended his arm and pushed him as he was gathering to shoot. Notre dame didn’t deserve to win after winning when scoring 47 points the last game…..yikes

 

[Kolumbo]

To me it looks like Shrewsberry was doing one of those hold me back deals because he knew he couldn't actually physically attack the ref. I don't think that player's one arm is going to stop the charging coach. I see the humor in situations

 

[Watson79]

What did I miss? I thought that was Rick Majerus just being told that the buffet was about to close

 

[Excalibur]

Right here. The Notre Dame defender is pushing him as he's in his shooting motion

He’s in the process of a jump stop there. Pretty clear.

 

[willie99]

I'm not shocked at Shrewsbury getting angry, but I am shocked at the number of objective UConn fans getting mad about a clear and obvious foul. If that went against UConn there would 3,000 posts in the first hour and a Congressional appeal filed to fire all referees involved

And yet, we're on the short end of free throw disparities every game until maybe the sweet sixteen

We obviously foul more than any team in the country, and when we see the shirts coming off our cutters on offense it's an optical allusion

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Another update. The ACC is not suspending Shrewsbury. If it were Hurley, Big East would give, what, 2 games minimum?

 

[gtcam]

Another update. The ACC is not suspending Shrewsbury. If it were Hurley, Big East would give, what, 2 games minimum?

when did the NBE suspend anyone?

 

[Spaceman213J]

I didn't think it had to be said when I made my initial comment, but watching the game, the refs ignored not 1 but 2 fouls that ND was giving before. It is terrible to let the earlier 2 grabs go and then call the lightest contact. You don't have to be in the act of shooting for a foul to occur and the refs should know the situation as well.

 

[HooperScooper]

Another update. The ACC is not suspending Shrewsbury. If it were Hurley, Big East would give, what, 2 games minimum?

Of course. The ACC is on pins and needles with Notre Dame right now after the CFP kerfuffle.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

when did the NBE suspend anyone?

Cooley was suspended by Georgetown which the NBE accepted. But let’s be honest, against Coppin State is no punishment whatsoever. If Hurley threw a bottle tomorrow he would be gone 2-3 games.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

He’s in the process of a jump stop there. Pretty clear.

This is the frame right before he shoots. Right foot already down, left foot in the air. It’s not a jump stop.

 

[thekollieman]

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This is the frame right before he shoots. Right foot already down, left foot in the air. It’s not a jump stop.

Dang! The frame where the defender has a hand on his hip (from a different vantage point) made it seem clear that it was the right call after all. But this frame, clearly coming after the hand on hip moment, makes it look like an insane call. But of course it all happened in a fraction of a second so then I guess it comes down to what the continuation rule actually says - something I don’t know.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Dang! The frame where the defender has a hand on his hip (from a different vantage point) made it seem clear that it was the right call after all. But this frame, clearly coming after the hand on hip moment, makes it look like an insane call. But of course it all happened in a fraction of a second so then I guess it comes down to what the continuation rule actually says - something I don’t know.

This is the frame with the hand on the hip but from the broadcast. It’s the frame right before what I just posted. So defender pushes his man after dribble has been picked up, right foot comes down (last pic I posted), the left foot comes down and he goes up for the shot. I’m fully sympathetic to an argument that a foul should have been called before, but it looks like the right call on continuation.

 

[navery12]

He’s in the process of a jump stop there. Pretty clear.

Yes and the contact came after the supposed jump stop, in the start of his shooting motion. It was a clear continuation call if you watch the video and look at what people are showing you. Want to complain about the non calls at half court, sure. But it was an obvious correct call on what they did call

 

[gsmooth]

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This is the frame with the hand on the hip but from the broadcast. It’s the frame right before what I just posted. So defender pushes his man after dribble has been picked up, right foot comes down (last pic I posted), the left foot comes down and he goes up for the shot. I’m fully sympathetic to an argument that a foul should have been called before, but it looks like the right call on continuation.

The officials made the correct call. If people want to complain that #2 on ND fouled him earlier in the back court, fine. I would say those fouls in the back court were not obvious enough and that is on #2. That foul call on the shot has to be made by the official.

This reminds me of the San Diego St.-Creighton game in the Elite 8 in 2023 when the officials called the foul on Ryan Nembhard when he fouled Darrien Trammell. At first I hated the call immediately as I thought officials should not decide the game, but after seeing the replay, they absolutely made the right call and had to call it. Nembhard did the same thing that #2 from Notre Dame did-he shoved the shooter's hip.

 

[Excalibur]

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This is the frame right before he shoots. Right foot already down, left foot in the air. It’s not a jump stop.

And his hand is already off by that time.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

And his hand is already off by that time.

I’m not following your point. He commits the foul after the dribble is picked up and right before the right foot comes down. Then the left foot comes down and then he goes up with a shot. His hand being off him doesn’t impact whether the basket should have counted.

 

[uconnfan68]

Spot the difference
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Me thinks Kyle is the embarrassment.

 

[pj]

Yes and the contact came after the supposed jump stop, in the start of his shooting motion. It was a clear continuation call if you watch the video and look at what people are showing you. Want to complain about the non calls at half court, sure. But it was an obvious correct call on what they did call

I don't see it. It's an exaggeration to call that a push, it looks like if he brushed the guy's hip it was with zero force. It was even weaker than the earlier swipes that weren't called.

The photo which had the view of the hand almost looks AI generated. From that angle you can't tell if the hand was on the hip or 6 inches away from it. It is just in front of the shooter. The shooter's balance was not disrupted.

If you call that you have to call the earlier ones.

 

[sledog]

?? What was the call??

 

[navery12]

I don't see it. It's an exaggeration to call that a push, it looks like if he brushed the guy's hip it was with zero force. It was even weaker than the earlier swipes that weren't called.

The photo which had the view of the hand almost looks AI generated. From that angle you can't tell if the hand was on the hip or 6 inches away from it. It is just in front of the shooter. The shooter's balance was not disrupted.

If you call that you have to call the earlier ones.

That's kind of a moot point when we know the defender was trying to commit a foul. I agree the earlier fouls should have been called too. But arguing it's not a foul is weird when those touch fouls are called 10 times a game as intentional fouls in those end of game situations. The argument is whether the foul should have been ruled a continuation