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I didn't hear what he said, but honestly, I don't have a problem with what it sounds like he said. We're one of the top 5 programs in the country right now. 3 national championships in the last 15 years. We're a blue blood. Programs with that amount of success are held to a higher standard. Barely beating one of the worst teams in the Big East...I'm sorry, we're better than that. If Ohio State barely beat Penn State, I wouldn't expect analysts to be slobbering all over how "gutsy" the win was.

As a fan, I'm happy we won. But around the country, we're expected to be a top 10 team, Final Four participant (hell, we've been in 2 of the last 3). I can't blame people for expecting more.
 
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Yeah, I mean we played like for the first 15 minutes of the game and were down 18 against a NIT bound team without their leading scorer. I'm glad they fought back, but let's not act like this was a good performance or validated the preseason expectations. And if Bazz misses that 35 footer all of you people would crucify him. That alone tells you it was not a good shot. He could have gotten to the 3 point line or more with ease.
 
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Last night's game and all surrounding it defies words. When the score was 26-8, Hubert Davis correctly compared UConn to a 20-games-out-of-first-place NBA team in April. He had nowhere to go but down after that, just as UConn had nowhere to go but up.

A minute or so into overtime, I txted my sister that I could write "WOW" and turn off the TV at that point and be right no matter how the game ended.

In the aftermath, I take it as a road win in which UConn scored when Lamb moved and didn't score when he stood still; in which Alex scored when he looked at the basket as he shot and didn't score when he didn't look; in which the box score shows a remarkable balance beyond the necessary distortion; and in which Villanova just wanted the loss more than UConn.

I remember Roscoe's 3 and made baskets by Olander and Daniels, choosing to forget their misses. I note that Villanova was 3-9 from 3-point range, which was better than JL from 3-point range and better than non-JL UConn from the free throw line. And nobody can say, "Why didn't the refs just let them play?"

It was a Big East road win. I'll take it.
 
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Here is video of the cackling, too bad we don't get to hear his verbal diarrhea before this.


Why are you getting on Hubert? I blame ESPN for allowing roosters on the set.
 
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Yeah, I mean we played like **** for the first 15 minutes of the game and were down 18 against a NIT bound team without their leading scorer. I'm glad they fought back, but let's not act like this was a good performance or validated the preseason expectations. And if Bazz misses that 35 footer all of you people would crucify him. That alone tells you it was not a good shot. He could have gotten to the 3 point line or more with ease.

On the road Monday night in the BE after a Saturday game.
 
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Hubert is also a religious zealot. Didn't he get in hot water for something a couple years ago?
 
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The cackling was very strange.

The Bazz game winner was a horrible, horrible, horrible shot. He had time to get to the hoop and make the defense stop him or make a layup. Instead he chose to shoot a 35 foot jumper. Bad, bad, bad judgement from the point guard. The PG should have the highest bball IQ on the court, and Bazz just doesn't. He has huge brass balls, which is great too, but he needs to make better decisions throughout the game. Just because the game winner went in, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. It was a lucky shot, a very low percentage shot, and a poor decision.

If he had driven the length of the court for a layup, no matter the result (foul, no foul, make, miss, turnover, whatever); NOBODY would have said "he should have pulled up from 35 feet instead".
 
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The cackling was very strange.

The Bazz game winner was a horrible, horrible, horrible shot. He had time to get to the hoop and make the defense stop him or make a layup. Instead he chose to shoot a 35 foot jumper. Bad, bad, bad judgement from the point guard. The PG should have the highest bball IQ on the court, and Bazz just doesn't. He has huge brass balls, which is great too, but he needs to make better decisions throughout the game. Just because the game winner went in, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. It was a lucky shot, a very low percentage shot, and a poor decision.

If he had driven the length of the court for a layup, no matter the result (foul, no foul, make, miss, turnover, whatever); NOBODY would have said "he should have pulled up from 35 feet instead".

He was injured.
 
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He was injured.

As I said in the other thread:


If that's the case, then the ball should have been passed to Boatright who was right next to him on the in-bounds, and Bazz did the best he could.​
The problem is I think back to the Marquette game where he was begging guys to run up the court with him, and I have to believe he was capable of going harder, especially with the adrenaline pumping in a late game situation.​
I'm honestly just glad that we can debate as to whether it was a good or bad shot. Because if he missed it, there would be no debate.​


I'll add here that usually, if a foot injury is preventing you from running full speed, it would also prevent you from having enough elevation to hit a true jump shot from 35 feet. He looked fine to me, but obviously I don't know how much it bothered him.
 
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Dude sounds creepy alright. Caws like a freaking crow. Crows are actually intelligent and serve a purpose in the ecosystem, though.
 
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The cackling was very strange.

The Bazz game winner was a horrible, horrible, horrible shot. He had time to get to the hoop and make the defense stop him or make a layup. Instead he chose to shoot a 35 foot jumper. Bad, bad, bad judgement from the point guard. The PG should have the highest bball IQ on the court, and Bazz just doesn't. He has huge brass balls, which is great too, but he needs to make better decisions throughout the game. Just because the game winner went in, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. It was a lucky shot, a very low percentage shot, and a poor decision.

If he had driven the length of the court for a layup, no matter the result (foul, no foul, make, miss, turnover, whatever); NOBODY would have said "he should have pulled up from 35 feet instead".

It was not a high percentage shot, not by any stretch of the imagination.

But he was open and able to get the shot off, at least. His other options were:
1) Take one more dribble and take a 24 footer instead of a 30 footer - however the 24 footer would have been tightly contested and maybe even blocked by Cheek.
2) Go all the way to the rim and try to score over Yarou, Sutton, and Pinkston. The chances of being bailed out by a foul are slim to none, and the chances of Shabazz scoring over the trees in that spot are probably not much better than the chances of the 30 footer going in.

You're right that nobody would have criticized his decision had he attacked the basket. But I also doubt that he scores - and we might still be playing.
 
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It was not a high percentage shot, not by any stretch of the imagination.

But he was open and able to get the shot off, at least. His other options were:
1) Take one more dribble and take a 24 footer instead of a 30 footer - however the 24 footer would have been tightly contested and maybe even blocked by Cheek.
2) Go all the way to the rim and try to score over Yarou, Sutton, and Pinkston. The chances of being bailed out by a foul are slim to none, and the chances of Shabazz scoring over the trees in that spot are probably not much better than the chances of the 30 footer going in.

You're right that nobody would have criticized his decision had he attacked the basket. But I also doubt that he scores - and we might still be playing.

Fair points. I watched it again and there were only two players in the paint, Yarou and Sutton maybe. But they were able to set up because he wasn't going 100%. Had he gone hard with the ball from the moment he got it, they may not have been set up. Usually in that situation the defense isn't set up because of the pace of the ball up the court, and in those situations guys will try to avoid contact making it harder to block the shot. Bottom line, even if he couldn't get a better shot, he could have made a better decision. If he weren't a point guard it wouldn't matter much. His decision making is a concern, and IMO, that was a poor decision. BUT, I don't know how bad his foot is, and his fearlessness and confidence are amazing and a huge asset to this team.
 
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Bottom line, even if he couldn't get a better shot, he could have made a better decision.
I'm confused. If there wasn't a better shot, how the heck could there have been a better decision? What was he going to do, pass it to someone behind him?
 
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I'm confused. If there wasn't a better shot, how the heck could there have been a better decision? What was he going to do, pass it to someone behind him?

The better decision was to drive to the hoop.

By "better shot", I meant a more "open look". He got an open look because he was 35 feet away from the hoop. A layup would have been contested, it might not have been a "better" look, but it would have been a better decision.

It's not difficult:

35' open look < contested layup
 
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The better decision was to drive to the hoop.

By "better shot", I meant a more "open look". He got an open look because he was 35 feet away from the hoop. A layup would have been contested, it might not have been a "better" look, but it would have been a better decision.

It's not difficult:

35' open look < contested layup
You're right; it's not difficult. Either you think the layup was a better shot and your post makes sense, or they were equal and your post makes no sense.
 
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You're right; it's not difficult. Either you think the layup was a better shot and your post makes sense, or they were equal and your post makes no sense.

Or, you're being intentionally obtuse by pretending that "better shot" doesn't also mean "a more open look" as I've already explained. Like when a coach tells a player to make the extra pass because while he may have had a shot available, there was a "better shot" because his teammate was "more open". The guy I responded to said the 35 foot open shot, was better than a 25 foot contested shot. So when I said "better", I was referring to "more open".

Either you understand that, or you don't. But my post makes sense.
 

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The cackling was very strange.

The Bazz game winner was a horrible, horrible, horrible shot. He had time to get to the hoop and make the defense stop him or make a layup. Instead he chose to shoot a 35 foot jumper. Bad, bad, bad judgement from the point guard. The PG should have the highest bball IQ on the court, and Bazz just doesn't. He has huge brass balls, which is great too, but he needs to make better decisions throughout the game. Just because the game winner went in, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. It was a lucky shot, a very low percentage shot, and a poor decision.

If he had driven the length of the court for a layup, no matter the result (foul, no foul, make, miss, turnover, whatever); NOBODY would have said "he should have pulled up from 35 feet instead".
The cackling was very strange.

The Bazz game winner was a horrible, horrible, horrible shot. He had time to get to the hoop and make the defense stop him or make a layup. Instead he chose to shoot a 35 foot jumper. Bad, bad, bad judgement from the point guard. The PG should have the highest bball IQ on the court, and Bazz just doesn't. He has huge brass balls, which is great too, but he needs to make better decisions throughout the game. Just because the game winner went in, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. It was a lucky shot, a very low percentage shot, and a poor decision.

If he had driven the length of the court for a layup, no matter the result (foul, no foul, make, miss, turnover, whatever); NOBODY would have said "he should have pulled up from 35 feet instead".
I liked the shot selection. Had he taken it coast to coast (if he could have) with the way this season has gone it is more likely that he gets charged with an offensive foul and Nova goes to the line to beat us. As Shabazz says, he did what Nova didn't expect and that's why it worked.
 
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Or, you're being intentionally obtuse by pretending that "better shot" doesn't also mean "a more open look" as I've already explained. Like when a coach tells a player to make the extra pass because while he may have had a shot available, there was a "better shot" because his teammate was "more open". The guy I responded to said the 35 foot open shot, was better than a 25 foot contested shot. So when I said "better", I was referring to "more open".

Either you understand that, or you don't. But my post makes sense.
Actually, I didn't understand your equation of "better shot = more open shot" because I was still mostly going off your first post, which you said it was a horrible shot. If openness of shots = better, then his shot was about as open as it gets.

The only way "better" makes sense to me is if it was a) more likely to go in the net, or b) more likely to result in points. And that seemed to be the sense you meant it in originally. The follow-up clarification on your part felt like an increase in confusion, not a clarification.

In fairness to you, I read your recent post quickly and didn't consider carefully enough before responding. My apologies for the snippish tone.
 
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Actually, I didn't understand your equation of "better shot = more open shot" because I was still mostly going off your first post, which you said it was a horrible shot. If openness of shots = better, then his shot was about as open as it gets.

The only way "better" makes sense to me is if it was a) more likely to go in the net, or b) more likely to result in points. And that seemed to be the sense you meant it in originally. The follow-up clarification on your part felt like an increase in confusion, not a clarification.

In fairness to you, I read your recent post quickly and didn't consider carefully enough before responding. My apologies for the snippish tone.
Appreciate the apology.

I shouldn't have said "horrible". I've been involved with basketball for 30 years in several different roles. Driving to the hoop (were he able to get up the court quicker) was, is, and always will be the better decision (at least on the chalkboard). But it worked out for us, so I'm not complaining, just commenting.
 
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Is it any shock that of the four guys doing Game Day he's the one who brings up several times how much of a distraction the APR is, how they will lose so many players to the NBA and transfers because they can't play next year in the tourney (conveniently ignoring the fact that they certainly may play in the tourney).
I don't think he said a single positive thing about UConn.
 

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To be fair to hubie, I would bet that on all these panel shows each guy is assigned specific talking points. So today digger talks us up and hubie tears us down.
 
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