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Message: [QUOTE="Paesano, post: 2472471, member: 5631"] No, Tubby is not a great coach. How did he do once he didn't have Pitino's players? And how is Kentucky doing now? If you are a premier program, you keep looking until you find a great coach. It isn't rocket science. I may be wrong about KO and, if I am, I will be here admitting so some day, if that day ever comes. But I will be brutally honest, I don't see this getting much better, if at all. He may have lost this team and program to the point of no return. Yes, Calhoun had some bad times between championships 1 and 2 but it never got this ugly. There were down years and, within those, there were ugly games. But there were never this many ugly games or this many down years so close together. It is one thing to struggle this badly while building a program, such as in Calhoun's first few years at UConn. It is another thing to struggle for an extended time once the program is established. People keep pointing to the championships as proof of KO's ability but, at the same time, people are saying he is still learning the ropes. You can't have it both ways. Either he is learning the ropes, and the championship was due to Calhoun's players, or he established his ability with the championship and his ability is a miracle run every N years with the remaining years being awful. [/QUOTE]