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Phil said:
On 13 February, Stewart was in her oft-discussed mid-season funk, and played only 7 minutes, scoring zero points.

The light went on shortly thereafter, and Stewart was a different player.
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Maybe, maybe not. Noone could go inside with Griner playing last year.
 
Striper69 said:
Maybe, maybe not. Noone could go inside with Griner playing last year.
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It wasn't necessary to go inside against Griner. I believe Geno's intentions in developing Stef's outside threat was to draw Griner away from the basket and back screen her off the boards attacking the baseline from the wings. If Griner did not follow her and or Stewie out Baylor would have suffered the same fate they did against L'ville only more so.
 
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I don't think Muffett herself is a superior recruiter. On her own her two biggest recruiting triumphs were a South Bend native and an Irish-American girl. Not exactly pushing the boundaries of Notre Dame sports. She wasn't able to roll an NC over into higher caliber recruits. Now since the addition of Niele Ivey as a ND assistant coach, there's been a major upturn in the quality of ND recruiting. I suggest there's no coincidence there. What Muffett does bring are major strengths in strategic team development, game planning and in-game coaching. In the last, she's Geno's equal, probably the only one in all of WCBB.
 
ericsandiego said:
As for L'ville, every other top team has looked human for an entire half, or had some closer than expected games. .
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Hey, even we were losing to the Bonnies until we staged that rally!
 
Icebear said:
It wasn't necessary to go inside against Griner. I believe Geno's intentions in developing Stef's outside threat was to draw Griner away from the basket and back screen her off the boards attacking the baseline from the wings. If Griner did not follow her and or Stewie out Baylor would have suffered the same fate they did against L'ville only more so.
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But you can't really say that because Baylor did win the only time they played.
 
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Striper69 said:
But you can't really say that because Baylor did win the only time they played.
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What I can say is we beat by 35 the team that just beat Baylor the previous week and that we had vastly more offensive and defensive options than that team.
 
Icebear said:
What I can say is we beat by 35 the team that just beat Baylor the previous week and that we had vastly more offensive and defensive options than that team.
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And it was 33 because we let up at the end. Transitivity doesn't always work, and doesn't "prove" we were more than 33 points better than Baylor, but it is a pretty good indication of how one should bet on the game.
 
triaddukefan said:
Louisville plays Kentucky on Sunday.... most likely it will be a ugly game to watch..... not sure if it will be on TV anywhere.
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Game is on TV. I saw it in my search on DirecTV, but haven't gotten up to programming. Maybe Sun or SportsSouth?
 
Striper69 said:
But you can't really say that because Baylor did win the only time they played.
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Notre Dame beat us three times last season. According to your reasoning, we couldn't say that
we would beat Notre Dame in the National Semifinals.

But of course we did beat them - and by 18 points.

As has been explained by other posters, UConn was a much improved team in the tournament.
A game against Baylor would have been very competitive, but I believe UConn would have
won. (and I can say that).
 
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ed4ourgirls said:
Notre Dame beat us three times last season. According to your reasoning, we couldn't say that
we would beat Notre Dame in the National Semifinals.

But of course we did beat them - and by 18 points.

As has been explained by other posters, UConn was a much improved team in the tournament.
A game against Baylor would have been very competitive, but I believe UConn would have
won. (and I can say that).
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That's actually a very good way to show the impact of the team meeting and how much better they became after that meeting. Which also shows how much of the game is mental, because I doubt they improved that much physically over a couple weeks.
 
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Phil said:
And it was 33 because we let up at the end. Transitivity doesn't always work, and doesn't "prove" we were more than 33 points better than Baylor, but it is a pretty good indication of how one should bet on the game.
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Absolutely true that one can't calculate spreads that way but margins of that level are indeed pretty good indicators of which side of a straight up bet you want to be on.
 
Phil said:
UKIMG/FSN
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Sports South and FS New Orleans are carrying it, but FSNO is not Hi-Def, Sports South (channel 649) is.

Also available is Creighton at Oklahoma, on FS2.
 
Well, Louisville just got the better of might Western Kentucky 74-61. A win is a win, I suppose, but this does not inspire fear.
 
alexrgct said:
Well, Louisville just got the better of might Western Kentucky 74-61. A win is a win, I suppose, but this does not inspire fear.
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It's hard to say how Louisville will do against UCONN based on this game. Louisville was playing a road game. The Schimmel girls seemed to be off their offensive game. Western Kentucky would do better than the other teams UCONN played other than Stanford and Maryland (maybe they would do better than them). They were a scrappy team for one half and came back to make it close at the half.
 
ed4ourgirls said:
Notre Dame beat us three times last season. According to your reasoning, we couldn't say that
we would beat Notre Dame in the National Semifinals.

But of course we did beat them - and by 18 points.

As has been explained by other posters, UConn was a much improved team in the tournament.
A game against Baylor would have been very competitive, but I believe UConn would have
won. (and I can say that).
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And I can say that Baylor won the only time they played each other last year.
 
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rocky rococo said:
I don't think Muffett herself is a superior recruiter. On her own her two biggest recruiting triumphs were a South Bend native and an Irish-American girl. Not exactly pushing the boundaries of Notre Dame sports. She wasn't able to roll an NC over into higher caliber recruits. Now since the addition of Niele Ivey as a ND assistant coach, there's been a major upturn in the quality of ND recruiting. I suggest there's no coincidence there. What Muffett does bring are major strengths in strategic team development, game planning and in-game coaching. In the last, she's Geno's equal, probably the only one in all of WCBB.
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We've never seen Geno recruit without CD though either. I have no doubt that Geno is a more impressive sales closer than Muffet, but Geno has certainly benefited from having CD coordinating recruiting all these years. The year after the national championship Muffet lost Kevin McGuff as he took the Xavier head coaching job. Someone who for the most part recruited his way all the way into the Ohio State job. So yeah recruiting picked up through Ivey convincing Diggins to stay home and Notre Dame winning, I don't think it is just that Ivey is a super recruiter. And McGraw got Carol Owens back a couple of years ago who was another former assistant on the national. championship team that had taken a head coaching job.
 
Striper69 said:
It's hard to say how Louisville will do against UCONN based on this game. Louisville was playing a road game. The Schimmel girls seemed to be off their offensive game. Western Kentucky would do better than the other teams UCONN played other than Stanford and Maryland (maybe they would do better than them). They were a scrappy team for one half and came back to make it close at the half.
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Your approach of isolating games is meaningless. Louisville was crushed by UCONN in the NC game. More important than the score is they were completely overwhelmed. They realized that in the first half when we saw Jude Schimmel in panic on the bench realizing they could do nothing they had done against Baylor, Cal or anyone else. The games so far this season haven't demonstrated any change to the positive.
 
Striper69 said:
And I can say that Baylor won the only time they played each other last year.
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Of course. However, you'd like to imply that says something about what would have happened had they met again. And it doesn't say much, in fact, examining it helps explain why it is likely UConn would have won, and won big.
 
Striper69 said:
It's hard to say how Louisville will do against UCONN based on this game. Louisville was playing a road game. The Schimmel girls seemed to be off their offensive game. Western Kentucky would do better than the other teams UCONN played other than Stanford and Maryland (maybe they would do better than them). They were a scrappy team for one half and came back to make it close at the half.
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There would be a meltdown on this board if we beat WKU by a lesser margin of victory than we got against Penn State, UMD, or Stanford.
 
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Icebear said:
Your approach of isolating games is meaningless. Louisville was crushed by UCONN in the NC game. More important than the score is they were completely overwhelmed. They realized that in the first half when we saw Jude Schimmel in panic on the bench realizing they could do nothing they had done against Baylor, Cal or anyone else. The games so far this season haven't demonstrated any change to the positive.
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OK. So what? That was last year. I'll hold back my opinion on how they'll do against UCONN this season until I see more of Louisvilles games.

You guys said yourself that Louisville was hot with the three pointers against Baylor. They weren't when they played UCONN.
 
I watched the game against WKU. It was back and forth scoring-wise much of the time. And during it I was thinking that I probably would've been there had things been different(I lived in Bowling Green for a few years when I was little.)
 
Striper69 said:
OK. So what? That was last year. I'll hold back my opinion on how they'll do against UCONN this season until I see more of Louisvilles games.

You guys said yourself that Louisville was hot with the three pointers against Baylor. They weren't when they played UCONN.
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Louisville being hot was only one factor involved in their victory. Baylor's offense was also limited by Griner's subpar game. A team that has a balanced offense would still have won the game. Louisville victory required not only that they were hot but that Baylor was not. Uconn has a balanced offense and it is far less likely that they would not produce offensively.
 
Striper69 said:
OK. So what? That was last year. I'll hold back my opinion on how they'll do against UCONN this season until I see more of Louisvilles games.

You guys said yourself that Louisville was hot with the three pointers against Baylor. They weren't when they played UCONN.
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They were hot mostly because Baylor decided that as long as Griner stopped everything in the lane the rest of the team could take the night off on defense and certainly not bother contesting shots beyond the arc. Baylor lost to Louisville because for 30 minutes they made absolutely no adjustment to what was happening on the floor. They spent the last ten minutes aggressively attacking on defense and on offense and not surprisingly they made a game of it - if they had done that for 30 minutes instead of 10 they probably would have won.
What can be said is that Baylor played their worst basketball at the end of their season and Uconn played their best. Baylor's worst got them a oneway ticket home from the regionals, Uconn's got them a NC.
Everyone talks about building toward the NCAAs and building through the rounds to the FF - Uconn lived that, Lousiville lived that, Baylor did not - blame the coaches, the players, or the refs, that still remains the story of the teams' seasons.
 
I watched the game Sunday and Louisville looked like they will be no match for the UCONN Huskies at this point. They throw the ball away too much and don't shoot well enough.

I like both teams but I gotta be honest about it. I'm still looking forward to watching them play at Rutgers though.
 
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