How does Hamilton affect our APR?

[Palatine]

Was he in good shape academically? Did he just pull out of classes without worrying about his standing? This is what killed us in the past, guys just took off.

Anyone in the know?

 

[7774]

Was he in good shape academically? Did he just pull out of classes without worrying about his standing? This is what killed us in the past, guys just took off.

Anyone in the know?

It's been reported that he will take online classes while in California. If he follows through on that I assume we will be in decent shape.

 

[amory]

Who knows, but rest assured we'll get a front page story on ESPN sometime next season (the only front page story we'll get) which will prominently feature our APR score and the writer's general tone will be condescending

 

[Chuck]

We always seem to have a loyal hoops alumni following. That was definitely the case with Calhoun players. Hopefully it will be the same with Ollie's players. I would make it clear that the program will always support your decision to do what you think is in your best interest regarding the NBA, but that is only the case if you finish out your time in a way that doesn't hurt the program's APR. It's not asking much and it shows respect to your school, your program, and your coach. Leave the wrong way and don't expect support or to be part of the UConn family.

 

[jibsey]

after what happened last time wouldn't the academic advisors and tutors have this covered?

 

[Tenspro2002]

Was he in good shape academically? Did he just pull out of classes without worrying about his standing? This is what killed us in the past, guys just took off.

Anyone in the know?

Well, he definitely has taken off -- no interest in being on campus any longer than he has to be.

As long as those online classes are legit, the APR shouldn't be affected though. (It is kind of pathetic that we feel the need to ask about this with every transfer/defection, I don't think any other major program does.)

 

[Bryan Lord]

Do you guys really think he's gonna finish his online classes? I don't.

Whatever though, our APR is solid enough to take a hit or two im sure.

 

[CL82]

Do you guys really think he's gonna finish his online classes? I don't.

Whatever though, our APR is solid enough to take a hit or two im sure.

I don't know those double hits on kids leaving school are brutal.

That said, I'm confident that he'll meet his obligations.

 

[Jerry1714]

I don't know those double hits on kids leaving school are brutal.

That said, I'm confident that he'll meet his obligations.

Even if he did not with the shape our APR is in it would not matter, it would affect it, but it would not put us close to being in danger

 

[Bryan Lord]

If I was 2-5 years away from being moderately wealthy i wouldn't finish an online class either

 

[CTBasketball]

I don't know those double hits on kids leaving school are brutal.

That said, I'm confident that he'll meet his obligations.

I've said this many times before with every recruit that left early.

 

[ford82]

If I was 2-5 years away from being moderately wealthy i wouldn't finish an online class either

No guarantee he will be moderately wealthy. He is not a sure fire pro prospect.

 

[Leebo]

No guarantee he will be moderately wealthy. He is not a sure fire pro prospect.

Eh? No one thinks he can't make some decent coin in Europe at the very least.

 

[Towney007]

He's not an NBA prospect.

 

[Chief00]

He made a poor decision and I could care less about APR.

 

[intlzncster]

(It is kind of pathetic that we feel the need to ask about this with every transfer/defection, I don't think any other major program does.)

Because they don't have to worry about it. Kentucky has a perfect APR damn near every year. I've read they have independent study classes for freshman basketball players. lol If they need a grade, they'll get a grade. SEC schools are very well schooled in this practice.

 

[Ts5034]

Do you guys really think he's gonna finish his online classes? I don't.

Whatever though, our APR is solid enough to take a hit or two im sure.

I think the APR has been almost perfect the last 3-4 years so even if the APR takes a minor hit this year, they should be fine. Youre only in jeopardy of a ban if your two year or four year average is below a certain number. I forgot what the number is you have to reach, but I dont think this team is anywhere near the danger zone, even with one bad year

 

[RichZ]

I think the APR has been almost perfect the last 3-4 years so even if the APR takes a minor hit this year, they should be fine. Youre only in jeopardy of a ban if your two year or four year average is below a certain number. I forgot what the number is you have to reach, but I dont think this team is anywhere near the danger zone, even with one bad year

But one bad year, defined by the press in our case as any decline in our APR, no matter how unsubstantial, will result in massive amounts of negative press.

 

[Edward Sargent]

I find it funny that we may be the only program that has to worry about APR.

 

[StoweD210]

Because they don't have to worry about it. Kentucky has a perfect APR damn near every year. I've read they have independent study classes for freshman basketball players. lol If they need a grade, they'll get a grade. SEC schools are very well schooled in this practice.

That's the part of it I don't get, that should make people question if the APR standard is a sham. With a program like Kentucky's where players are leaving early regularly, you're telling me that none of those guys ever said "I'm going to be a millionaire in 3 months, what do I care about going to class?" I'm not saying it should happen with a lot of guys, but it should happen with a few. If they have set up a system where work the players do over winter break completely covers the school for the spring semester and they get 100% compliance, then how does that realistically mirror "real" school?

 

[Edward Sargent]

That's the part of it I don't get, that should make people question if the APR standard is a sham. With a program like Kentucky's where players are leaving early regularly, you're telling me that none of those guys ever said "I'm going to be a millionaire in 3 months, what do I care about going to class?" I'm not saying it should happen with a lot of guys, but it should happen with a few. If they have set up a system where work the players do over winter break completely covers the school for the spring semester and they get 100% compliance, then how does that realistically mirror "real" school?

No one here seems to get it. APR was developed by Emmert and the NCAA to specifically get even with UConn after his dismissal. If a few other schools got caught up in it - oh well collateral damage. The fact that no other school has been penalized is troubling. The fact that Emmert dismissed UConn's "current players not involved" and then turned around 2 years later and used it to justify no ban for SU is more troubling. My bet is we never hear a word about APR, UNLESS UConn steps on their academic d!cks again.

 

[Rico444]

Jacobs said in his article this morning that according to his sources, Hamilton is in good shape academically and there isn't any concern over him failing to meet his academic obligations the rest of the way.

EDIT: Here you go; from Jacobs' article this morning:

Hamilton is from a good, stable family environment. His brother Jordan plays in the NBA. The Hamiltons are immersed in the game. They know the ropes. I'm told he is not in academic peril. In fact, he's doing online work from home in Los Angeles to finish up the semester in good standing.

 

[7774]

No one here seems to get it. APR was developed by Emmert and the NCAA to specifically get even with UConn after his dismissal. If a few other schools got caught up in it - oh well collateral damage. The fact that no other school has been penalized is troubling. The fact that Emmert dismissed UConn's "current players not involved" and then turned around 2 years later and used it to justify no ban for SU is more troubling. My bet is we never hear a word about APR, UNLESS UConn steps on their academic d!cks again.

Where do people come up with this stuff?

 

[champs99and04]

Where do people come up with this stuff?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I definitely don't write off the idea that Emmert concocted the retroactive APR thing in part to get back at Calhoun for Drummond.