How close are the top 4 seeds to being locked?

[ec33]

If, as looks likely, 4 SEC teams are in the top 8 spots for the NCAA, each will be placed in a separate bracket regardless of the S-curve.
This means UCLA and Uconn will each play an SEC team in their bracket as a 2 seed.

They don't separate them that late in the tournament. They make an effort to avoid conference opponents the first weekend -- but with 20 school conferences those rules are long gone.

 

[YKCornelius]

They don't separate them that late in the tournament. They make an effort to avoid conference opponents the first weekend -- but with 20 school conferences those rules are long gone.

ec33, no, those rules are not long gone. The committee actually separate them right up front when the bracket is presented on Selection Sunday.

@ucmiami2 is correct. If the top four teams in any conference are in the top four seed lines, the committee will place them in different regional pods, per the NCAA guidelines:

• Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regional pods if they are seeded on the first four lines.

 

[ec33]

ec33, no, those rules are not long gone. The committee actually separate them right up front when the bracket is presented on Selection Sunday.

@ucmiami2 is correct. If the top four teams in any conference are in the top four seed lines, the committee will place them in different regional pods, per the NCAA guidelines:

• Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regional pods if they are seeded on the first four lines.

Ok, thanks. Weird rule when they don't do it early in the tournament but I should know better than to expect bureaucrats to be consistent.

 

[hoopsfan22]

UCLA overall #1, followed by UConn, then the top 2 SEC teams one of which will be South Carolina.

 

[Bills Fan]

UCLA overall #1, followed by UConn, then the top 2 SEC teams one of which will be South Carolina.

"Shirley", you jest! The Selection Committee is not going to lower the seed of an undefeated, defending National Champion team and overtake them with a team that embarrassed them in the FF last year, by an all-time record margin!

 

[hoopsfan22]

"Shirley", you jest! The Selection Committee is not going to lower the seed of an undefeated, defending National Champion team and overtake them with a team that embarrassed them in the FF last year, by an all-time record margin!

I think the committee will put a lot weight on quad 1 record.

 

[oldude]

I think the committee will put a lot weight on quad 1 record.

To a point, that is correct. While everyone wants to talk about UCLA’s quad 1 wins, including Big 10 Network’s Autumn Johnson, who just determined that UCLA would be the overall #1 seed (big surprise-sarcasm intended), there is little discussion over Quad 1 losses and the impact on the “total body of work” criteria.

UCLA’s loss to a very good TX team in LV by 11 was not necessarily an upset. But it was a loss nonetheless. When the committee puts UCLA side by side with UConn, that loss will stick out like a sore thumb. There is no metric for how much weight any Quad1 loss has against however many Quad1 wins UCLA ends up with. It is one of those “subjective” issues that the committee has to evaluate as they seed teams.

 

[JellyBean]

UCLA overall #1, followed by UConn, then the top 2 SEC teams one of which will be South Carolina.

I see what you are doing but UCLA won't be the overall #1 seed. The committee would not place UCLA over UConn. Not going to happen.

 

[packwrap]

I am not saying they are not good. But I am saying for a spot in the national championship game; UConn would love to see them.

By the time the conference tourneys are over, whoever gets the #3 and #4 seeds will have further proven themselves.

If it's still Vandy, they will have earned the spot.

 

[NycUcWbbFan]

I think the committee will put a lot weight on quad 1 record.

[Duplicate post from 'Vandy Takes Down TX']

What the 12-member Committee does in seeding is do a rolling hypothesis testing based on the overall body of work (using team sheets and other information).

Below is the body of work for UConn and UCLA. Some posters make it seem that UConn plays a much less competitive schedule than UCLA. UConn does not. UConn’s and UCLA’s schedules are fairly comparable.

• 1. UConn | Torvik Schedule
• 2. UCLA | Torvik Schedule

UCLA has a blemish (an 11-point loss to TX) vs undefeated UConn. They both won vs Michigan by 3 points — UConn in November and UCLA in February. UConn has more dominant wins than UCLA vs other common opponents (Iowa, Ohio State, TN).

• There is a reason to reject the hypothesis that UCLA is the overall #1 team;
• There is no compelling reason to reject the hypothesis that UConn is the #1 overall seed.

 

[DefenseBB]

While I doubt the committee would find a reason to put UCLA #1 overall, it is clear that these two are the top 2 by far, with SC a distant 3rd by all the criteria they are to utilize. Quad 1 wins is just one of many criteria that far too many posters seem to over-prioritizing. To me, I am a bit indifferent as it only impacts the color of the uniform if the two teams were to meet in the final, which I doubt will happen. While I get the #2 seed would in theory play better seeded teams, the gap to the top 3 teams is pretty wide so I am not concerned (as opposed to last year as an example).

But as I said, I highly doubt UConn will be demoted from the overall #1 seed. It is an interesting discussion for the top 8 though…and to see how it plays out including the big matchup tonight of Dawn vs Kim….and the massive contrast in coaches outfits- Sequins vs. Sweats!

 

[skidroe]

Vandy crushed Texas the other night.......I'm just sayin'!

 

[Phil]

"Shirley", you jest! The Selection Committee is not going to lower the seed of an undefeated, defending National Champion team and overtake them with a team that embarrassed them in the FF last year, by an all-time record margin!

I don't think the selection committee will give any weight to defending NC. Nor should they.