How can anyone defend Edsall?

[noeynox]

I can’t defend but I respect the guy.

Maybe a young energetic guy would come here but if things went well I imagine UConn would be a stepping stone.

I can’t see Edsall leaving on his own this time around.

I respect what he is trying to do BUT he coached that situation like a frigging idiot. No need to pretend otherwise.

 

[Zissou]

Dude, I didn't fact check to make them match perfectly, the point is the same and you know that.

1. BYU has a 50 year tradition, a recruiting engine fed by Mormon missionaries and the fact that all their players are 2+ years older than every other team. C'mon.

2. And App state, if you take 2 seconds to google it, is smack in the middle of the recruiting uber hotbed of North Carolina, which means they can easily recruit the entire DMV for under-recruited gems. Meanwhile, we can recruit - checks notes - Quebec, New Haven, and Worcester. So, with respect, pleasantly go pound sound

"with a little optimism" *eyeroll*

Last time I pounded sound it got really loud.

Western North Carolina isn't Texas or Florida, and App State is up against 4 ACC schools in the recruiting game in NC alone, and then you can go across the border for a handful more. If you were an App State fan you'd argue you can't compete because of all the P5s in your area.

Listen, I just think when you are at the bottom maybe an 8 win season seems like the top. It isn't. My point stands to look at peers and set your sights a little higher. Memphis sucked. Temple sucked. UConn has the potential to do more than top out at 8 wins.

 

[Dove]

He's an Edsel.

Where's @Calichic now?

 

[DoctorWho85]

Watching Arizona St - Oregon game and Arizona St on 3rd and 16 threw an 81 yard TD pass. God I wish we had an offense like that.

 

[Exit 4]

Edsall did a bunch today to keep himself around for 2020. He had to have a moral victory - one decent game out of these last two. I think the other part very much still in play is coaching and player turner over at the end of the season. Too much of either - like a big walk out- could force change. On the other hand, he keeps most of the best young players and best coaches he stays for 2020.

 

[noeynox]

Watching Arizona St - Oregon game and Arizona St on 3rd and 16 threw an 81 yard TD pass. God I wish we had an offense like that.

Can't throw a TD pass when you run draws on 3rd and 9. We threw a 94 yd TD catch and run and another long TD pass. Gotta take chances to make plays like that.

 

[DoctorWho85]

Can't throw a TD pass when you run draws on 3rd and 9. We threw a 94 yd TD catch and run and another long TD pass. Gotta take chances to make plays like that.

I'm not even sure JZ would able to hit a receiver in stride like that. Our receivers have consistently, all season long, got behind their defender only to be missed by 10 yards.

 

[noeynox]

I'm not even sure JZ would able to hit a receiver in stride like that. Our receivers have consistently, all season long, got behind their defender only to be missed by 10 yards.

I'm not sold on the kid, but he is getting better with reps. Everyone talks about his arm mechanics, I'm more worried about his footwork.

 

[DoctorWho85]

I'm not sold on the kid, but he is getting better with reps. Everyone talks about his arm mechanics, I'm more worried about his footwork.

Both are coachable, but I'd like to see SK all next week to see what he does against a good Temple team. We're done after next week might as well get him some reps and some film for next year

 

[BlueDogs]

I am realistic, not defeatist. Setting realistic goals is critical to building a performance culture. If you want to have unrealistically high expectations it will only bring you misery and ultimately the death of this program. You are out of your mind. That is the problem with so many on this board.

We have been playing D1 for almost 20 years. We have "made the rankings" like twice, over 10 years ago. We have averaged like 2.5 wins per year for the last decade. You bring up "realistic Peer programs" that all have significant advantage over us - they live in recruiting-rich regions. We have no conference. We have many less recruits in-region due to many reasons we have all covered before, and the recruits we DO have in-region have other, more relevant football programs they can choose to attend.

No one is putting a ceiling on a program. I am saying that 5-7 wins most years, and a couple 8 or 9 win seasons per decade would be a hell of an accomplishment. Again, averaging 2.5 wins for the last decade now. The worst roster in probably 25 years during Edsall's first year.

Grow up people, get real. If you set goals that are realistic and acheivable, maybe we can have a senior class have the same head coach for their entire tenure for the first time since 2010.

Man, you must be a workout consultant. I hope your business growth consulting approach is better than that. To sum up: reach for average. I am unaware of any business success that starts with and operates under the premise just be mediocre, other than than regulated entities shielded from competition. If you’re saying we need interim goals on a path to success, fine. But, for goodness sake stop with the “we are so disadvantaged” nonsense. We aren’t and there plenty of programs considerably more so that are doing very well. The goal should be undefeated with a top 10 ranking, and consistent top 25. That’s a goal. Hire for it, recruit with a plan, and market like you mean business.

 

[CL82]

How can anyone defend Edsall?

Just give him a little cushion and stay in front of him?

 

[CL82]

When a 10 year old kid walks up to you, and you are wearing a uconn sweatshirt and says UConn stinks, that says it all

Hope you kicked his ass... on principal.

 

[dvegas]

Temple -24?

 

[DoctorWho85]

Temple -24?

Seems a bit low

 

[dvegas]

-35?

 

[Pudge]

A certain regular longtime poster made the post opinion on Zergiotis. As long as we are reflecting on TWO last minute UConn losses within 24 hours ... anyone see Brendan Adams play this week. Do you remember what he looked like last year?

kids develop. That’s why some of us love college sports. I think JZ has a ways to go. If Krajewski is gonna grab the job ... fine. Let’s all just root that they all get better.

 

[formerlurker]

Randy has to go. This time not his choice.

But let us not forget how he navigated this program through our toughest time.

This is why I will always feel some sort of responsibility to defend him, even though it's time for him to resign.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I don't love the play calling either, but I don't think you can run an athletic program if you fire the coach after every bad play call. Unless a coach calls a fake fake field goal, then you should fire him on the spot.

Diaco is the worst FBS coach I have ever seen. It was going to take time to recover from that debacle. There was enough improvement this season, plus a promising young QB, to justify another season of Edsall

 

[Chin Diesel]

RE is better at being David Sims than David Sims (Don Johnson Tin Cup).
Never seize the moment and go for it.

 

[RSTuthill]

We can criticize him all we want, but no one on god's green earth is gonna rebuild the UConn football program faster than 6 years. So relax. Early days.

Oh, and btw, all the P5 opponents on the schedule are what will make UConn an attractive place to play football. Should help with recruiting. This might actually work out.

 

[Bongo Fury]

Because of his previous success and dedication to the program he is given a longer leash. He is the best coach UConn has had. Safe and boring choice but not a time to gamble imo.

 

[bmayuc]

Man, you must be a workout consultant. I hope your business growth consulting approach is better than that. To sum up: reach for average. I am unaware of any business success that starts with and operates under the premise just be mediocre, other than than regulated entities shielded from competition. If you’re saying we need interim goals on a path to success, fine. But, for goodness sake stop with the “we are so disadvantaged” nonsense. We aren’t and there plenty of programs considerably more so that are doing very well. The goal should be undefeated with a top 10 ranking, and consistent top 25. That’s a goal. Hire for it, recruit with a plan, and market like you mean business.

You should probably be committed to an institution with padded walls if those are your expectations or goals for this program.

Another problem is that you are both are weirdly conflating what I believe FAN EXPECTATIONS should be and the goals of the people running the program should be.

My entire point here is that we do not have the resources, institutional support, recruiting capability, conference affiliation, tradition, etc etc ad infinitum to have those types of FAN EXPECTATIONS. It will depress any chance of actually achieving any sort of program growth because... And I hate to be the one telling you that Santa isn't real... That ain't ever going to happen.

This is kinda marketing 101 guys. Underpromise, overdeliver etc.

But whatever I'm not going to continue arguing with fools.

 

[noeynox]

You should probably be committed to an institution with padded walls if those are your expectations or goals for this program.

Another problem is that you are both are weirdly conflating what I believe FAN EXPECTATIONS should be and the goals of the people running the program should be.

My entire point here is that we do not have the resources, institutional support, recruiting capability, conference affiliation, tradition, etc etc ad infinitum to have those types of FAN EXPECTATIONS. It will depress any chance of actually achieving any sort of program growth because... And I hate to be the one telling you that Santa isn't real... That ain't ever going to happen.

This is kinda marketing 101 guys. Underpromise, overdeliver etc.

But whatever I'm not going to continue arguing with fools.

Buffalo won 10 games last year.

If any other coached delivered back to back years where the only FBS win was over UMass you'd all want him fired. He also lost to UMass during that time. Because it's Edsall everyone makes excuses. I don't know if it is sad or funny. But "culture" is better.

 

[kris1]

It’s clearly the coach. It has been the coach (Disco and PP). It will continue to be the coach until (a) the school finds a boat load of cash (b) they find a young up-and-comer who understands present day football, relates to today’s athlete and is motivated to “build” his own legacy (c) hire someone who can develop culture and talent.

5-years my ass....


I get it’s Texas and SEC country and money but Baylor was left in shambles. Rhule makes Randy look like he’s running a youth league team. Seeing this tweet today made me both depressed and optimistic for change. The biggest problem aside from Randy are those making the decisions.

 

[ZooCougar]

We can criticize him all we want, but no one on god's green earth is gonna rebuild the UConn football program faster than 6 years. So relax. Early days.

Oh, and btw, all the P5 opponents on the schedule are what will make UConn an attractive place to play football. Should help with recruiting. This might actually work out.

I mean this in the most polite way possible...

It sure as hell didn’t take Temple that long? Remember when they were booted from the Big East? The were awful. Most college linebackers were faster than their DBs. They were beyond horrendous.

to top it off they barely even had a place to play.

In comes Al Golden and after a recruiting class or two they just about beat UConn if not for a sketchy call in the end zone. And trust me UConn still had a bigger and faster team.

The difference was coaching. Edsall is the guy who loses to directional Michigan and then somehow gets to a good bowl game.

he’s the guy who sent more kids to the NFL than most other schools but still loses 4-5 games.

He’s not that good.
He’s not good.

You guys have been conditioned to accept less than adequate which is what we have.

If Temple can attract an Al Golden with no conference and no stadium then UConn can and should do better.

sorry, but you and this whole board needs to wake up and pull yoyr

 

[ZooCougar]

Buffalo won 10 games last year.

If any other coached delivered back to back years where the only FBS win was over UMass you'd all want him fired. He also lost to UMass during that time. Because it's Edsall everyone makes excuses. I don't know if it is sad or funny. But "culture" is better.

Hopefully he retires.

 

[noeynox]

The point of this thread is that he literally coaches this team into losses. This game yesterday was lost on that sequence. The closer the game is the more tight he coaches, and the tighter the players play. He did this last year against UMass as well. He is never changing.

 

[noeynox]

It’s clearly the coach. It has been the coach (Disco and PP). It will continue to be the coach until (a) the school finds a boat load of cash (b) they find a young up-and-comer who’s understands present day football, relates to today’s athlete and is motivated to “build” his own legacy (c) someone who can develop culture and talent.

5-years my ass....


I get it’s Texas and SEC country and money but Baylor was left in shambles. Rhule makes Randy look like he’s running a youth league team. Seeing this tweet today made me both depressed and optimistic for change. The biggest problem aside from Randy are those making the decisions.

That draw on 3rd and 9 yesterday people forget, (i don't) that he pulled the same crap in the Fiesta Bowl year at Rutgers. Ran it on 3rd and long with Toddman late in the game with a small lead and ended up losing. Afterwards he takes the podium and calls it a trick play because the team expects you to pass. This is who he is. He can both suck and insult intelligence in one motion.

 

[ZooCougar]

That draw on 3rd and 9 yesterday people forget, (i don't) that he pulled the same crap in the Fiesta Bowl year at Rutgers. Ran it on 3rd and long with Toddman late in the game with a small lead and ended up losing. Afterwards he takes the podium and calls it a trick play because the team expects you to pass. This is who he is. He can both suck and insult intelligence in one motion.

That’s peak Edsall. That and getting like three kicks blocked against UNC.

 

[AndOne]

Randy's rebuilding stinks for anyone with expectations of UConn being a competitive team by now. He's lost to horrific ECU teams the last three years. ECU has won four conference games in the same time span; three of those wins were against Randy. Yeah, let's keep riding this.