Houston wants to keep their options open

[dayooper]

Yeah, what you think and what was and is reality are definitely two very different things.

Wait, the data LDandy presented refuted your data, and your comeback was yeah, your are wrong. The better program is dependent on what data you use. By your definition, Michigan and Texas are about even. Michigan has more wins (they have the most of any school) and the only time they played was a 38-37 thriller that was decided in the last couple of plays.

Truth be told, both Texas and Oklahoma are two of the the football kings and will be for the foreseeable future, whatever conference they are in. Oklahoma would do just fine in the the Big10 West or in a 4 team pod with Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas.

 

[Ldandy]

Yeah, what you think and what was and is reality are definitely two very different things.

 

[UT4Big12]

Wait, the data LDandy presented refuted your data, and your comeback was yeah, your are wrong. The better program is dependent on what data you use. By your definition, Michigan and Texas are about even. Michigan has more wins (they have the most of any school) and the only time they played was a 38-37 thriller that was decided in the last couple of plays.

Truth be told, both Texas and Oklahoma are two of the the football kings and will be for the foreseeable future, whatever conference they are in. Oklahoma would do just fine in the the Big10 West or in a 4 team pod with Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas.

I wasn't refuting his data. He has a right to voice whatever opinion he may have.

I wonder why you felt Michigan had to come into the discussion. No one said anything about Michigan and I never said "by my definition Texas and Michigan were even".
But now that you mention it, Nebraska is pretty much just another school in the Big Ten, whereas it was once a top dog in the Big 8. Nebraska lost its position at the top when the Big 12 was formed. It was no longer king of the hill, so to speak. Then to make matters worse, Michigan and Wisconsin voted Nebraska out of the AAU, just before it joined the Big Ten.

 

[billybud]

I always have liked the response of Nebraska's Vice Chancellor for Academic Affair's to the AAU vote...


"My frame would be, this is silly, screw them, get back to what we were doing."

 

[UT4Big12]

I thought it was ironic that the Big Ten prides itself on having only AAU members in the conference, then Michigan and Wisconsin did this:

Emails: Wisconsin and Michigan opposed Nebraska's AAU membership | Local Education | journalstar.com

 

[Seaa Blue]

I thought it was ironic that the Big Ten prides itself on having only AAU members in the conference, then Michigan and Wisconsin did this:

To quote Perlman: "This is old news to us. We're moving forward."

 

[HuskyHawk]

Houston has 2 options:

1. remain in the AAC / G5;
2. use one of their lobbyist slimeball boosters and Texas politics to strong-arm their way into the B12 as a short-term fix (then OU leaves shortly after to lead to the destruction of the conference, ironically)

That's it.

What I'm waiting for, if UConn and Cinci go to the Big 12, is the MWC and American looking at whether they can combine. Temple will be the only remaining northeastern team. It doesn't seem unreasonable that the best of the MWC and best of the AAC could come together.

 

[dayooper]

I wasn't refuting his data. He has a right to voice whatever opinion he may have.

I wonder why you felt Michigan had to come into the discussion. No one said anything about Michigan and I never said "by my definition Texas and Michigan were even".
But now that you mention it, Nebraska is pretty much just another school in the Big Ten, whereas it was once a top dog in the Big 8. Nebraska lost its position at the top when the Big 12 was formed. It was no longer king of the hill, so to speak. Then to make matters worse, Michigan and Wisconsin voted Nebraska out of the AAU, just before it joined the Big Ten.

You quoted him and informed him that what he thought and what reality is are two different things. You presented data, and, to show you how you hand picked your "data," I compared your school with my school. Do I think Michigan has been the better program over the last 20 years? Not a chance. I also don't believe that Texas has been better than Oklahoma over the same time span.

If a school can hire and retain a top coach, they will do very well. Bob Stoops has been better than any coach either Michigan or Texas has had. Alabama wasn't Alabama for a long time until Saban came there. While at LSU, Saban brought them to the pinnacle. Pete Carroll had USC to the top, Urban Meyer had both Florida and OSU on top. It all comes down to coaching, and Nebraska hasn't had it since Tom Osborne (and everything he did) retired. They have had a long list of mediocre coaches since, culminating with the middling Mike Riley.

I thought it was ironic that the Big Ten prides itself on having only AAU members in the conference, then Michigan and Wisconsin did this:

Emails: Wisconsin and Michigan opposed Nebraska's AAU membership | Local Education | journalstar.com

Who cares? They weren't performing to what the member schools wanted them to, so they were voted out. Michigan and Wisconsin wanted to kick Nebraska out a year prior, but didn't have the votes to do so. As far Big10 pride, I could care less.

 

[junglehusky]

Joseph Duarte - As expansion talks loom, Cougars' main goal is winning now

As conference weighs expansion, UH still on outside looking in

By the time Hunter Yurachek boarded a plane home, he called Friday's developments at the Big 12 meetings "a win-win day for the University of Houston."

And nothing was decided.

"We can't control anything that happened in Dallas," said Yurachek, UH's vice president for intercollegiate athletics, "but the door was not shut on any of us potentially having the opportunity at a future date to compete at an even higher level as a member of the Big 12."

Not for nothin', but that's the boldest language of any AAC administrators that I can recall.

 

[TRest]

Joseph Duarte - As expansion talks loom, Cougars' main goal is winning now

As conference weighs expansion, UH still on outside looking in


Not for nothin', but that's the boldest language of any AAC administrators that I can recall.

As opposed to the UC president giving the B12 public tongue baths.