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Dave is just trying to get them off our scent and not give the cartel reasons to change the system.
House v. NCAA settlement approved: Landmark decision opens door for revenue sharing in college athletics
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Dave is just trying to get them off our scent and not give the cartel reasons to change the system.
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From reading the article/decision it seems like 'losers' will also be schools with big football and basketball programs AND any school that features a top echelon women's hoop team.
My read is there's roughly $20.5M to allocate to major sports. So it could be that say at Florida it'll be tough for them to continue basketball resurgence given football's prominence and need for much of the $20.5M they can pay out. For example I saw elsewhere the Texas is pre-planning to allocated 75% to football and 15% to men's basketball - that leave 2M (not much) for all other sports including all women's sports.
Meanwhile the problem UConn might face is the Women's hoop team commanding comparatively more money especially if they continue to get/want a big share of the most highly ranked players. I guess it matters most what the UConn Women's team will be competing against though and other schools with great women's hoop teams have football to compete against and likely men's basketball as well.
Any guesses on the UConn split for those 3 biggest revenue generating sports?
What about Soccer? Field Hockey, Hockey?! I'm sure there's more.
My read is there's roughly $20.5M to allocate to major sports. So it could be that say at Florida it'll be tough for them to continue basketball resurgence given football's prominence and need for much of the $20.5M they can pay out. For example I saw elsewhere the Texas is pre-planning to allocated 75% to football and 15% to men's basketball - that leave 2M (not much) for all other sports including all women's sports.
Meanwhile the problem UConn might face is the Women's hoop team commanding comparatively more money especially if they continue to get/want a big share of the most highly ranked players. I guess it matters most what the UConn Women's team will be competing against though and other schools with great women's hoop teams have football to compete against and likely men's basketball as well.
Any guesses on the UConn split for those 3 biggest revenue generating sports?
What about Soccer? Field Hockey, Hockey?! I'm sure there's more.
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"There's never been a better time to be a lawyer with an interest in college sports."
Yeah, that's where this is headed.
What happened Friday in California is significant, no doubt. But anybody describing it as a solution to the issues ailing college athletics simply lacks an understanding of the history of NCAA sports and exactly what will and won't be allowed moving forward.
The end of chaos?
Nah.
House v. NCAA settlement quells issues in college sports? No, but be prepared for a whole new type of chaos
The landmark decision passed down on Friday opens the door for a new slew of issues across the landscape
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Do you actually think a SEC school with millions tied up in football is going to concede a recruiting battle in basketball to a Big East program sans football because, you know, the money just isn't in the budget, according to the rules? LOL. When it comes to that, not all basketball staffs, but certainly lots, will simply do what they've always done, i.e., find a way to get the player even if it requires circumventing the rules.
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House v. NCAA settlement quells issues in college sports? No, but be prepared for a whole new type of chaos
The landmark decision passed down on Friday opens the door for a new slew of issues across the landscape
www.cbssports.com
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The women's team isn't requiring anywhere near the men's team in NIL now orngoing forward. The big deals Paige got were brand deals.
And UConn women will be much more likely to get those big brand deals than any other team's athletes just by the power of the UConn brand.
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I don't think anyone's suggesting that the Big East is going to have this massive advantage over the SEC and Big Ten. When all is said and done, it'll probably still be at a slight disadvantage.Do you actually think a SEC school with millions tied up in football is going to concede a recruiting battle in basketball to a Big East program sans football because, you know, the money just isn't in the budget, according to the rules? LOL. When it comes to that, not all basketball staffs, but certainly lots, will simply do what they've always done, i.e., find a way to get the player even if it requires circumventing the rules.
House v. NCAA settlement quells issues in college sports? No, but be prepared for a whole new type of chaos
The landmark decision passed down on Friday opens the door for a new slew of issues across the landscape
But it's also quite the departure from the doomsday scenarios people have been forecasting here for years. Anything that levels the playing field financially even a little bit works in the Big East's favor because of the advantage it has in geography, fan support, and tradition. The days of John Calipari riding a helicopter into South Orange and taking Seton Hall's best player without any resistance are likely over, and that should come as a major relief to the conference.
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Isn't that exactly what many articles recently have been saying, including one I posted above?
Here are a few articles on the subject that I found with a Google search. I don't know if this is what will happen but it seems it's a lot more than nobody suggesting this.
Could impending rev-share changes help Cinderellas in the future? 'Everybody will be in the game'
As the college sports industry sits on the brink of historic change, an unexpected spending disparity looms — and some mid-majors will be able to take advantage of it in basketball.
Basketball-centric schools without football may soon gain major advantage. Here's how.
If House vs. NCAA settlement is approved, opening door to revenue-sharing with athletes, schools that care more about basketball may have an edge.
www.usatoday.com
Big East Basketball’s Huge Potential to Lead Revenue-Sharing After House Settlement
Monday could be an enormous day in college sports — and not just because March Madness will come to an end with the national championship game.
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With Revenue Sharing on the Way, Is the Big East Sitting Pretty?
Once Upon A Time, the Big East Conference reigned supreme over the Land of College Basketball. Born in 1979, this brainchild of a mad genius named Dave Gavitt enjoyed a rapid rise by monopolizing major media markets from Washington, D.C., to New York City to Syracuse, N.Y. Behind great players...
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The biggest winners and losers from House v. NCAA settlement: Amateurism is dead and the class divide grows
Down to the availability of all "student-athletes" to enjoy the free dining, college athletics will never be the same
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That’s good if true and those deals are legit and will be approved by the official NIL collective.
I don’t follow it (eg Paige’s deals though I think I read a headline that she was getting as much NIL money as any college athlete) but generally there is the feeling that lots of the NIL is fabricated pass thru of alumni monies paying players.
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I think you're fundamentally misnderstanding how the process works. The collectives have nothing to do with Paige's big Nike/Gatorade/Madison Reed deals and whatever else there is. All they do is distribute the money they collect as far as I understand. They don't have any influence to negate any secondary deals.
Paige's NIL deals are legitimate markets contracts: pump our product on social media, get x amount. Her influence online has real value to national brands.
The collectives are the sketchy bit. Some kids are getting big money for taking a couple pictures for a billboard and signing autographs for an hour at a car dealership.
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You'll never put the money genie back in the bottle. They only way forward is to have these guys sign contracts and put some constraints on transfers. Both of which the NCAA has the power to do. No one is entitled to eligibility.
The constraint will be the greed of the P2/P4 programs. Their model is based on limiting competition.
The constraint will be the greed of the P2/P4 programs. Their model is based on limiting competition.
I think this is a huge win for uconn hoops. Uconn should not apply 75pct to foot ball. Probably 50 pct 25 for mbb 20 for wbb and 5 for everyone else. Should allow for long term hoops dominance.
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My understanding of the new rules/law is that there is a separate special committee that approves every NIL deal. So as I And you said if the deals are legit that’s fine but in theory they are all now scrutinized.
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Your comment I responded wasn't about deals going forward.
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NIL Go by Deloitte is the NIL clearinghouse, “NIL Go”: Deloitte Establishes Basic Framework to Review Third-Party NIL Deals
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There will be a lot of AD arm-wrestling/tug of wars across the landscape over the next year:
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Not sure I understand, isn't all we are talking about the new legislation and how it impacts everything going forward?
The article huskymedic links that is mostly about BC also highlights the problem but in a different way (all BC major sport teams suck). The UConn conundrum is that the women's hoop team legit deserves more than typical model allocations of the 20.5M AND by far recruits the most prominent women's athletes, possibly in any sport. I'm simply saying it will be complicated and may be tough to feed all of those mouths.
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And third-party NIL is a convenient and proven methodology to do just that.Do you actually think a SEC school with millions tied up in football is going to concede a recruiting battle in basketball to a Big East program sans football because, you know, the money just isn't in the budget, according to the rules? LOL. When it comes to that, not all basketball staffs, but certainly lots, will simply do what they've always done, i.e., find a way to get the player even if it requires circumventing the rules.
House v. NCAA settlement quells issues in college sports? No, but be prepared for a whole new type of chaos
The landmark decision passed down on Friday opens the door for a new slew of issues across the landscape
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I think way too much of the thinking about all this is ignoring that NIL is still a thing. This $20.5M now becomes the floor for most competitive schools, not the ceiling. As far as I know, there is no limit on NIL, so all that gets added on top.
This means, for example, that UConn could decide to use the entire amount on sports other than Basketball because we know we can generate lots of NIL for those programs but not for things like Football. As another example. the Big10 and SEC schools could allocate the vast majority to basketball because they know they can raise tons of $ in NIL for football, meaning its not as much of a win for the Big East as people may seem to think. Who knows how it plays out, ideally there should be a cap on NIL to level the playing field.
This means, for example, that UConn could decide to use the entire amount on sports other than Basketball because we know we can generate lots of NIL for those programs but not for things like Football. As another example. the Big10 and SEC schools could allocate the vast majority to basketball because they know they can raise tons of $ in NIL for football, meaning its not as much of a win for the Big East as people may seem to think. Who knows how it plays out, ideally there should be a cap on NIL to level the playing field.
A few questions.
I thought the 20.5 million was a cap that each School was limited by. Where do the schools get the 20.5 million to give to the student athlete? Does it have to come from revenue that the sports return to the school? Who exactly decides which students get how much?
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Do you actually think a SEC school with millions tied up in football is going to concede a recruiting battle in basketball to a Big East program sans football because, you know, the money just isn't in the budget, according to the rules? LOL. When it comes to that, not all basketball staffs, but certainly lots, will simply do what they've always done, i.e., find a way to get the player even if it requires circumventing the rules.
House v. NCAA settlement quells issues in college sports? No, but be prepared for a whole new type of chaos
The landmark decision passed down on Friday opens the door for a new slew of issues across the landscape
There are few news articles that reflect a bigger ignorance gap than when a sportswriter tries to write about college finances.
UConn should have a big advantage over most schools in NIL deals for men's and women's basketball, and if they don't, then the school needs to do something about it. UConn is the only show in town in a rich state with lots of corporations headquartered here.
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Nothing enrages about 10% of our fanbase more than an article that is remotely positive about the conference or the future of UConn athletics. I am talking berserker, smashing the keyboard as they type kind of rage.
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Me too, just because Seton Hall can spend up to $20 million doesn’t mean it has that much available. Or UConn for that matter.
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