Hope Polley gets his chance to start 3 man

[Scrappy3]

If we consider martin a 4.
We can rotate in bigs all game and when needed go 2 big. But I like having the extra scoring punch to help out at the start without giving up almost any length on defense

 

[BParkDog]

Polley is in the starting line up by Feb 1, and is getting 25-30 minutes a game IF he can stay out of foul trouble.
He is the X-Factor this season. Tall, great 3 point shot. If he continues to commit to D and Rebounding, Mr. Hurley will have no choice but to play him. Other guys bring a lot to the table, but, at the end of the day, a guy who is a dagger plunger from 3 when you need it is gold.

On Feb 1, the starters should be . . . Bouk, Cole, Polley, Akok, Whaley, with Gaffney getting PG minutes to spell Cole, Carlton getting C minutes to spell Whaley, Martin getting 25' plus a game, Adams getting backup minutes, and everybody else fighting for scraps (yeah, I know that sounds bad). Sanogo and Jackson haven't been able to develop (not on them), and they will get minutes here and there.

With Hurley's emphasis on D, and needing a deep threat, it seems to me that the only person who can keep Polley out of heavy rotation is Polley. I see him as 15/6 guy, and respectable on D, within a month.

To guys saying he's a spot up shooter who will get sub minutes, I say . . . . this game is all about the 3. He is, arguably, our best 3 shooter. 2nd, at worst. He is the guy who, when he gets it all going, is the difference between 2nd weekend and elite 8.

No disrespect to Tyrese at all - he's great. But Polley is the X-Factor.

 

[UconnU]

I’m guessing moving forward starting Polley at the 3, Martin at the 4 is the play. Insane that Sanogo isn’t a starter he would start for 350 other teams. Dude is like magneto grabbing boards, he boxes out so strongly and takes up so much space that the opposing bigs basically give up trying to get offensive boards. His arms are longer than advertised.

If y’all have a chance go back and watch just the first 6 minutes of last game when we had Martin, Whaley, and Sanogo on the floor together. That was not fair on the glass, not only are they all great rebounders they are all very active. No one in the big east is getting second chance points against that front court.

 

[calluke]

Polley is in the starting line up by Feb 1, and is getting 25-30 minutes a game IF he can stay out of foul trouble.
He is the X-Factor this season. Tall, great 3 point shot. If he continues to commit to D and Rebounding, Mr. Hurley will have no choice but to play him. Other guys bring a lot to the table, but, at the end of the day, a guy who is a dagger plunger from 3 when you need it is gold.

On Feb 1, the starters should be . . . Bouk, Cole, Polley, Akok, Whaley, with Gaffney getting PG minutes to spell Cole, Carlton getting C minutes to spell Whaley, Martin getting 25' plus a game, Adams getting backup minutes, and everybody else fighting for scraps (yeah, I know that sounds bad). Sanogo and Jackson haven't been able to develop (not on them), and they will get minutes here and there.

With Hurley's emphasis on D, and needing a deep threat, it seems to me that the only person who can keep Polley out of heavy rotation is Polley. I see him as 15/6 guy, and respectable on D, within a month.

To guys saying he's a spot up shooter who will get sub minutes, I say . . . . this game is all about the 3. He is, arguably, our best 3 shooter. 2nd, at worst. He is the guy who, when he gets it all going, is the difference between 2nd weekend and elite 8.

No disrespect to Tyrese at all - he's great. But Polley is the X-Factor.

Martin is by far and away the more all-around player than Polley. He's also more athletic and not coming off of a big-time injury. No disrespect to Polley, but he should come off the bench and if his 3 ball is rolling he gets minutes. When it's not, he's a liability IMO.

 

[Ratso]

tyrese can play himself into the draft with proper hurley coaching

 

[imno1]

If we consider martin a 4.
We can rotate in bigs all game and when needed go 2 big. But I like having the extra scoring punch to help out at the start without giving up almost any length on defense

I think we'll start 2 bigs against Marquette. I hope our starting 5 by Feb is Cole, Bouk, Martin, Akok, and Whaley

 

[BParkDog]

Martin is by far and away the more all-around player than Polley. He's also more athletic and not coming off of a big-time injury. No disrespect to Polley, but he should come off the bench and if his 3 ball is rolling he gets minutes. When it's not, he's a liability IMO.

Martin got . . .
6 points.
11 points.
and
2 points.

Prior to DePaul.

Against Creighton, when we needed him the most, arguably, he was 1 of 6 with 0 assists.

Not rippin' on Martin. I love what he brings. BUT, he's at ceiling.

Polley, on the other hand, has HUGE upside. When I use the word "HUGE" there, think Leonardo Dicaprio selling shares in Teledyne (Aerodyne?) stock. "HUGE upside."

 

[BParkDog]

tyrese can play himself into the draft with proper hurley coaching

Martin is great for us, and I love what he brings, but he will not be drafted by the NBA in any meaningful position.
Respectfully, Ratso, you have let the DePaul game influence your opinion excessively.

Martin shot 7 for 17 prior to DePaul and was 1 of 4 from 3.

Martin will be a solid contributor, but he is better viewed at "super-glue-guy" than "an NBA prospect."

Mark it down, call me out. Polley is the X-Factor. If he stays healthy, he will be starting and getting 25' plus a game. He is much, much more important than Martin to our final result.

 

[superjohn]

Martin got . . .
6 points.
11 points.
and
2 points.

Prior to DePaul.

Against Creighton, when we needed him the most, arguably, he was 1 of 6 with 0 assists.

Not rippin' on Martin. I love what he brings. BUT, he's at ceiling.

Polley, on the other hand, has HUGE upside. When I use the word "HUGE" there, think Leonardo Dicaprio selling shares in Teledyne (Aerodyne?) stock. "HUGE upside."

Martin is a much better player than Polley, it's not even close. Polley is a weapon with his three point shooting but unfortunately he's never brought it in any of the other aspects of the game. If he hits threes and plays D we can be a great team.

 

[BParkDog]

Martin is a much better player than Polley, it's not even close. Polley is a weapon with his three point shooting but unfortunately he's never brought it in any of the other aspects of the game. If he hits threes and plays D we can be a great team.

Superjohn, how you bin man? We totally agree on the virus thing, and that's the only thing you and I have agreed on in 10 years, so that's a sign of the big thing, or whatever people say.
Polley has much greater upside than Martin. It's not even close.

Martin is a better rebounder and a better defender. That's great, and that's why Hurley loves him.

But it's 2020, and Martin shoots the open 3 at about 35% and Polley shoots the open 3 at about 45%, and that's why Polley will be starting over Martin at some point, mark it down. Of course, if Martin gets the Olander start for 5 minutes, then I'm still right.


Love Martin. Don't lose track of that. Guy is a stud. But he's not a high level
scoring threat.

 

[glastonbury50]

Polley is in the starting line up by Feb 1, and is getting 25-30 minutes a game IF he can stay out of foul trouble.
He is the X-Factor this season. Tall, great 3 point shot. If he continues to commit to D and Rebounding, Mr. Hurley will have no choice but to play him. Other guys bring a lot to the table, but, at the end of the day, a guy who is a dagger plunger from 3 when you need it is gold.

On Feb 1, the starters should be . . . Bouk, Cole, Polley, Akok, Whaley, with Gaffney getting PG minutes to spell Cole, Carlton getting C minutes to spell Whaley, Martin getting 25' plus a game, Adams getting backup minutes, and everybody else fighting for scraps (yeah, I know that sounds bad). Sanogo and Jackson haven't been able to develop (not on them), and they will get minutes here and there.

With Hurley's emphasis on D, and needing a deep threat, it seems to me that the only person who can keep Polley out of heavy rotation is Polley. I see him as 15/6 guy, and respectable on D, within a month.

To guys saying he's a spot up shooter who will get sub minutes, I say . . . . this game is all about the 3. He is, arguably, our best 3 shooter. 2nd, at worst. He is the guy who, when he gets it all going, is the difference between 2nd weekend and elite 8.

No disrespect to Tyrese at all - he's great. But Polley is the X-Factor.

Second best three point shooter behind who? I wish Polly was are second best, but he's not, he's our best, hands down.

 

[BoukofJames]

tyrese can play himself into the draft with proper hurley coaching

He’s not on any draft boards today, but it is undeniable that he looked like an NBA prospect against DePaul. Able 3PT shooter, fierce rebounder, dribble-drive with two hand finisher... really good stuff...

 

[BParkDog]

Second best three point shooter behind who? I wish Polly was are second best, but he's not, he's our best, hands down.

Bouk is our best 3 point shooter.
1/4 then 2/7 then 3/6 then 5/12. Against USC and Creighton, the better competition, he shot 8 of 18. Also note that James was creating his own shot in many of those circumstances, a thing for which Polley is not quite adept.

 

[glastonbury50]

Bouk is our best 3 point shooter.
1/4 then 2/7 then 3/6 then 5/12. Against USC and Creighton, the better competition, he shot 8 of 18. Also note that James was creating his own shot in many of those circumstances, a thing for which Polley is not quite adept.

I disagree. You can't use these 5 games to say who is a better shooter. Polley has consistently knocked down the three year after year for us.

 

[MexicoHusky]

Does anyone know what Polley was recruited to do? Obviously he was recruited by the former staff. And the coaching staff doesn't exactly confide with the fan base about team development.

Was Polley recruited to be a stretch 4. The next DeAndre Daniels?

 

[imno1]

Does anyone know what Polley was recruited to do? Obviously he was recruited by the former staff. And the coaching staff doesn't exactly confide with the fan base about team development.

Was Polley recruited to be a stretch 4. The next DeAndre Daniels?

I believe he was recruited to play men's bb.
Polley is our best 3pt shooter but Martin is a better all round player imo.

 

[glastonbury50]

Does anyone know what Polley was recruited to do? Obviously he was recruited by the former staff. And the coaching staff doesn't exactly confide with the fan base about team development.

Was Polley recruited to be a stretch 4. The next DeAndre Daniels?

Honestly who knows what that regime was thinking. Thank god its over

 

[MexicoHusky]

Honestly who knows what that regime was thinking. Thank god its over

I kinda think he was recruited to be a stretch 4. Similarly, I think Vance Jackson was as well. That type of player obviously worked well for KO in 14'. So I think KO was trying to recreate Daniels.

Anyways, i like the idea of Polley doing exactly that. Playing as the 4. Unfortunately he doesn't bring the other skills that Daniels had. Shot blocking and rebounding.

For this reason Polley has always been a bit of an enigma to me. He's not much of a big and he's not much of a swing player with more guard-like skills.

 

[Huskymagic]

Polley continues to be the most underrated player on the team. Feel free to watch from minute 3:50 to 4:30 to see some dagger treys.



PS: Polley > Martin

 

[superjohn]

Superjohn, how you bin man? We totally agree on the virus thing, and that's the only thing you and I have agreed on in 10 years, so that's a sign of the big thing, or whatever people say.
Polley has much greater upside than Martin. It's not even close.

Martin is a better rebounder and a better defender. That's great, and that's why Hurley loves him.

But it's 2020, and Martin shoots the open 3 at about 35% and Polley shoots the open 3 at about 45%, and that's why Polley will be starting over Martin at some point, mark it down. Of course, if Martin gets the Olander start for 5 minutes, then I'm still right.


Love Martin. Don't lose track of that. Guy is a stud. But he's not a high level
scoring threat.

What are all these things Polley has more potential than Martin at? He's in his 4th year already. Polley is a better three point shooter than Martin and can be a real weapon with the three ball but who is the better defender? Who is the better finisher? Who is the better rebounder? Who has the better handles? Who is the better passer? Who has more versatility?

 

[Improviser]

Polley is in the starting line up by Feb 1, and is getting 25-30 minutes a game IF he can stay out of foul trouble.
He is the X-Factor this season. Tall, great 3 point shot. If he continues to commit to D and Rebounding, Mr. Hurley will have no choice but to play him. Other guys bring a lot to the table, but, at the end of the day, a guy who is a dagger plunger from 3 when you need it is gold.

On Feb 1, the starters should be . . . Bouk, Cole, Polley, Akok, Whaley, with Gaffney getting PG minutes to spell Cole, Carlton getting C minutes to spell Whaley, Martin getting 25' plus a game, Adams getting backup minutes, and everybody else fighting for scraps (yeah, I know that sounds bad). Sanogo and Jackson haven't been able to develop (not on them), and they will get minutes here and there.

With Hurley's emphasis on D, and needing a deep threat, it seems to me that the only person who can keep Polley out of heavy rotation is Polley. I see him as 15/6 guy, and respectable on D, within a month.

To guys saying he's a spot up shooter who will get sub minutes, I say . . . . this game is all about the 3. He is, arguably, our best 3 shooter. 2nd, at worst. He is the guy who, when he gets it all going, is the difference between 2nd weekend and elite 8.

No disrespect to Tyrese at all - he's great. But Polley is the X-Factor.

The other X-factor is a healthy and productive Akok. If he is both healthy and productive, and if he can shake off the rust, your projected rotation makes sense. Otherwise, you have to start Martin with all his intangibles. The 3 is critical, and we will have to see if Polley consistently makes them along with decent rebounding and defense. If all the ducks line up to a reasonable degree, nothing wrong with a strong 8 man rotation. Though, I think Sanogo has to get minutes too and I think with more games, he will show more.

 

[bazz&boujee]

Polley is a career 12 ppg, 4 boards, and less than 1 assist/steal/block PER 40 MINUTES. What does the guy do on the court? Wipe the wet spots? A supposedly steve novak esque marksman has averaged 38% on 3s for his career on only 3 attempts game. Such a weapon would be taking more attempts, no? He’s a senior.. he’s had plenty of oppurtunity. Just because he’s made two threes in a row a few times doesn’t mean he’s our nuclear weapon. Drew Hurley would make 3s at the same clip if he only took attempted few a game

 

[BParkDog]

What are all these things Polley has more potential than Martin at? He's in his 4th year already. Polley is a better three point shooter than Martin and can be a real weapon with the three ball but who is the better defender? Who is the better finisher? Who is the better rebounder? Who has the better handles? Who is the better passer? Who has more versatility?

If you take away the Lone Ranger's marksmanship, he was just an average cowboy, lol.

3 pointer is critical. We'll see. [wink]

 

[Ricker]

According to a graphic across the bottom of the screen today, Martin is tied for the rebounding lead in the Big East through yesterday's games. I don't really see them as competing to the extent you can't have them on the floor together. Polley can get his minutes when he's hitting, but when Martin isn't shooting well he is still contributing by getting us possessions. (I didn't look to confirm the rebounding stat)

 

[3rdbass]

If we consider martin a 4.
We can rotate in bigs all game and when needed go 2 big. But I like having the extra scoring punch to help out at the start without giving up almost any length on defense

Polley is more of a 4 man and if he is in the lineup he will play like there. He surely can't guard a 3 with lack of quickness. Unless you are saying defensively they switch men.

 

[Umami Zen]

You guys are way smarter than me.. Let's just see how this plays out with TM and TP.. If they both play up to their talents..We're good..

 

[HooperScooper]

I found this from one of his recruiting articles.

Tyler Polley is a 6’7” 215 pound power forward from The Sagemont School in Weston, FL. He is currently ranked #83 in the class of 2017. He is a smooth shooting stretch-four with good passing ability and rebounding skills. He is a rangy defender, something that Jamie Dixon covets in wing players. He reminds me of current Frogs forward Kenrich Williams in his build and athleticism.

TCU Offers Four-Star PF Tyler Polley

Tyler Polley is a 6’7” 215 pound power forward from The Sagemont School in Weston, FL. He is currently ranked #83 in

n.rivals.com

 

[MexicoHusky]

I found this from one of his recruiting articles.

Tyler Polley is a 6’7” 215 pound power forward from The Sagemont School in Weston, FL. He is currently ranked #83 in the class of 2017. He is a smooth shooting stretch-four with good passing ability and rebounding skills. He is a rangy defender, something that Jamie Dixon covets in wing players. He reminds me of current Frogs forward Kenrich Williams in his build and athleticism.

TCU Offers Four-Star PF Tyler Polley

Tyler Polley is a 6’7” 215 pound power forward from The Sagemont School in Weston, FL. He is currently ranked #83 in

n.rivals.com

Thank you.

That definitely answers my question.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Does anyone know what Polley was recruited to do? Obviously he was recruited by the former staff. And the coaching staff doesn't exactly confide with the fan base about team development.

Was Polley recruited to be a stretch 4. The next DeAndre Daniels?

At #168, Tyler was the crown jewel of the 8th best recruiting class in the AAC in 2017. The class was haphazardly put together after the departures of Durham, Jackson, Enoch, and the decomittment of Makai Ashton Langford in the spring of 2017. It was a slapped together class that featured Kwintin Williams. I honestly think Ollie was offering the “best available” at that point seeing how we brought in 4 power forwards in the same class.
Also, the staff was blindsided when Dialla signed with Kentucky.

Absolute mess.

Not sure if Ollie deserves credit for being some kind of mad genius for finding 3 guys who have outplayed their rankings for the most part in Polley, Whaley, and Carlton or Hurley deserves credit for developing them.

Long story short, I don’t think Polley was recruited for any specific role or reason.

 

[MexicoHusky]

At #168, Tyler was the crown jewel of the 8th best recruiting class in the AAC in 2017. The class was haphazardly put together after the departures of Durham, Jackson, Enoch, and the decomittment of Makai Ashton Langford in the spring of 2017. It was a slapped together class that featured Kwintin Williams. I honestly think Ollie was offering the “best available” at that point seeing how we brought in 4 power forwards in the same class.

Absolute mess.

Not sure if Ollie deserves credit for being some kind of mad genius for finding 3 guys who have outplayed their rankings for the most part in Polley, Whaley, and Carlton or Hurley deserves credit for developing them.

"Crown Jewel of the 8th best class in the AAC"

Thats pretty solid writing. Nicely put.

I've been somewhat critical of Polley. Your post grounds me a bit. That recruiting class pretty much represents rock bottom for KO. Short of getting fired. What a mess indeed.

Being critical of Polley is a bit inappropriate of me. We are probably getting more than we should of out of him. Polley is what he is. A three point shooter. That's about it.

Thanks my friend