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Message: [QUOTE="storrsroars, post: 3977332, member: 2500"] 2022 will still suck, but at least we'll have Hayes for a full season (hopefully). 2023 will probably look like 2011/2012 - they'll be competitive but flame out in August. 2024 should be a good year. Of course by then Hayes will be in 1st arb year and Nutting will want him traded to Yankees ;-) Sad thing is that even when they were horrible when Huntington first took over, at least they were watchable. They had some talent (Bay, McLouth, Cutch, Alvarez, Hanrahan) you could root for. This team has nothing when Hayes isn't out there. And he's only played half a game this season. [/QUOTE]