Hawkins, Jackson potentially returning Friday

[Huskyforlife]

 

[husky429]

My guess is Diarra and Alleyne move to the bench. Off chance Karaban and Andre plays the 4.

 

[444JR]

My guess is Diarra and Alleyne move to the bench. Off chance Karaban and Andre plays the 4.

This team will keep going at opponents in waves. No let up or drop off in the rotation with guys of that caliber coming off the bench + Clingan it’s unreal. A lot of future nba/high level pro talent. Hoping Samson has a speedy recovery. Hurley’s deepest team yet was no hyperbole.

Newton’s incredible performance tonight and the role he played within the system should be exciting for the Castle fam.

I imagine Stephon will be keeping a close eye on how the staff utilizes both Newton and Jackson this season.

 

[RichZ]

I imagine they will be eased into the rotation and won't be starting for a game or two.

 

[navery12]

I imagine they will be eased into the rotation and won't be starting for a game or two.

They may not play as many minutes but as soon as they're healthy they're starting

 

[SteelCT]

Not sure we have time to ease them back in…just a few games to get cohesion before PKI, cant see them not starting.

 

[MJKI]

So excited about the almost hockey line change we can do
Starting:
Newton/Hawkins/Jackson/Karaban/Sanogo
2nd Line:
Diarra/Calcaterra/Alleyne/Jackson/Clingan
Foul Trouble Hail Mary
Springs/Romouglou

I think Jackson ends up playing 35 MPG to bridge that size gap between the bench and the starters and he makes an ideal 4 with that lineup of shooters off the bench.

 

[husky429]

So excited about the almost hockey line change we can do
Starting:
Newton/Hawkins/Jackson/Karaban/Sanogo
2nd Line:
Diarra/Calcaterra/Alleyne/Jackson/Clingan
Foul Trouble Hail Mary
Springs/Romouglou

I think Jackson ends up playing 35 MPG to bridge that size gap between the bench and the starters and he makes an ideal 4 with that lineup of shooters off the bench.

Ideally, we have no one playing more than 30 MPG. RJ last year played 33 MPG and we had NO other decent option at the 1. We have 2-3 guys that can play Andre's position.

 

[Hurleyman216]

It’s scary because we’ve shot the ball pretty poorly and still dominated in every game we’ve played while missing 3 of our starters. We’ll see how our defense holds up in conference play, but I expect our offense is going to get much better as the season progresses. I’m starting to think we look more like a top 10 team than a fringe top 25 team, but PKI will tell us a lot more. Seems like we have 2-3 guys who can be “go to” guys when we need a critical bucket. Last year we really only had Cole in that role who could create for himself. Getting these guys in tight end of game situations will tell us more, but you can already tell that guys like Karaban and Diarra have those intangibles that they’re just going to make hustle plays in critical situations. Let’s get healthy and start steam rolling everyone!

 

[MJKI]

Ideally, we have no one playing more than 30 MPG. RJ last year played 33 MPG and we had NO other decent option at the 1. We have 2-3 guys that can play Andre's position.

Agreed, but if Samson is truly out long-term then AJ becomes the default 4 since Springs isn't being given a lot of run and Sanogo+Clingan isnt happening

 

[husky429]

Agreed, but if Samson is truly out long-term then AJ becomes the default 4 since Springs isn't being given a lot of run and Sanogo+Clingan isnt happening

Sure. And Karaban at the 4 commanding 29 MPG right now. I think playing Jackson 15 MPG at the 4 and 15 MPG at the 3 is probably reasonable considering we have Newton, Alleyne, Hawkins, Diarra and possible Calcaterra all getting minutes split up on the other perimeter positions. Karaban can play some 3 as well if we ever do put Springs in the game for a few minutes here or there.

 

[HuskyHoosier]

It’s scary because we’ve shot the ball pretty poorly and still dominated in every game we’ve played while missing 3 of our starters. We’ll see how our defense holds up in conference play, but I expect our offense is going to get much better as the season progresses. I’m starting to think we look more like a top 10 team than a fringe top 25 team, but PKI will tell us a lot more. Seems like we have 2-3 guys who can be “go to” guys when we need a critical bucket. Last year we really only had Cole in that role who could create for himself. Getting these guys in tight end of game situations will tell us more, but you can already tell that guys like Karaban and Diarra have those intangibles that they’re just going to make hustle plays in critical situations. Let’s get healthy and start steam rolling everyone!

I agree and when I see us play I think we can be a top 10 caliber team when fully healthy. But then you switch channels and see Duke/KU and I think the talent on the floor is eye opening and seemingly significantly higher than ours. It could be I’m underselling our talent, but some of the plays and finishes made by freshman in that game were really good.

 

[auror]

Here's how I see the general rotation (matchups and hot hand will change it up) with Hawkins+Jackson back but no Johnson...

Starters (stay in at 1st media)	2nd media timeout (12:00)	3rd media timeout (08:00)	4th media timeout (04:00)	2nd Half starters	1st media timeout (16:00)	2nd media timeout (12:00)	3rd media timeout (08:00)	4th media timeout (04:00)
Newton	Diarra	Diarra	Newton	Newton	Diarra	Diarra	Newton	Newton
Hawkins	Alleyne	Calcaterra	Hawkins	Hawkins	Alleyne	Calcaterra	Alleyne	Hawkins
Jackson	Hawkins	Alleyne	Alleyne	Jackson	Hawkins	Alleyne	Hawkins	Jackson
Karaban	Jackson	Karaban	Jackson	Karaban	Jackson	Karaban	Jackson	Karaban
Sanogo	Sanogo	Clingan	Sanogo	Sanogo	Clingan	Clingan	Sanogo	Sanogo

Newton - 24 min
Hawkins - 32 min
Jackson - 32 min
Karaban - 24 min
Sanogo - 28 min*
--
Diarra - 16 min
Alleyne - 24 min
Clingan - 12 min*
Calcaterra - 8 min

*Might do 5 min increments for Clingan/Sanogo to get them to 25/15 instead of 28/12.

 

[Palatine]

The shooting numbers should go up as the team gets more comfortable and develops some chemistry. This has been somewhat delayed because of injuries. The silver lining is Dan Hurley really got a chance to see what the new guys bring to the table.

 

[Mooch82]

Newton - 25 mpg
Hawkins - 25 mpg
Jackson - 28 mpg
Karaban - 25 mpg
Sanogo - 28 mpg

Diarra - 18 mpg
Alleyne - 22 mpg
Calcaterra - 12 mpg
Clingan - 12 mpg
Springs - 5 mpg

I think you'll see something like this until Samson gets back (not necessarily exactly what you'll see Friday, but eventually). Once Samson is back, Springs won't play and he'll split the 4 with Karaban depending on game flow. Would love Donovan to get more than 12 minutes, and he will some games, but we aren't really set up to play him and Sanogo together at this point.

 

[Marat]

So excited about the almost hockey line change we can do
Starting:
Newton/Hawkins/Jackson/Karaban/Sanogo
2nd Line:
Diarra/Calcaterra/Alleyne/Jackson/Clingan
Foul Trouble Hail Mary
Springs/Romouglou

I think Jackson ends up playing 35 MPG to bridge that size gap between the bench and the starters and he makes an ideal 4 with that lineup of shooters off the bench.

I like it.

BTW, Romouglou from only seeing him in a couple possessions seems like he should be getting minutes next season ?

 

[superjohn]

I agree and when I see us play I think we can be a top 10 caliber team when fully healthy. But then you switch channels and see Duke/KU and I think the talent on the floor is eye opening and seemingly significantly higher than ours. It could be I’m underselling our talent, but some of the plays and finishes made by freshman in that game were really good.

I think you're underselling us, I thought Kansas and Duke looked fairly unimpressive.

 

[Mooch82]

I like it.

BTW, Romouglou from only seeing him in a couple possessions seems like he should be getting minutes next season ?

Agreed. Who knows what the roster will look like next season...we have 5 freshman coming up but at the same time only have 1 of 13 scholarship players this year who doesn't have any eligibility left. But agreed; definitely a guy I could see contributing in the future.

 

[navery12]

I agree and when I see us play I think we can be a top 10 caliber team when fully healthy. But then you switch channels and see Duke/KU and I think the talent on the floor is eye opening and seemingly significantly higher than ours. It could be I’m underselling our talent, but some of the plays and finishes made by freshman in that game were really good.

When we're missing 2 of our 3 best players there's definitely a talent gap there

 

[UConnSwag11]

Agreed, but if Samson is truly out long-term then AJ becomes the default 4 since Springs isn't being given a lot of run and Sanogo+Clingan isnt happening

why wouldn't Karaban play the four and Jackson at the 3?

 

[UConnSwag11]

IMO, subbing often when it isn't needed ruins chemistry and keeps players off the floor who should be on as much as possible. We shouldn't sub just to sub. Play the best players in the best lineups based on the flow of the game.

 

[QDOG5]

Off subject but can someone tell a website that includes +/- in college bball box scores? Thanks

 

[navery12]

Off subject but can someone tell a website that includes +/- in college bball box scores? Thanks

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[RichZ]

Sure. And Karaban at the 4 commanding 29 MPG right now. I think playing Jackson 15 MPG at the 4 and 15 MPG at the 3 is probably reasonable considering we have Newton, Alleyne, Hawkins, Diarra and possible Calcaterra all getting minutes split up on the other perimeter positions. Karaban can play some 3 as well if we ever do put Springs in the game for a few minutes here or there.

If we're playing 4 out, does it really matter who we call a 3 and who we call a 4?

 

[husky429]

If we're playing 4 out, does it really matter who we call a 3 and who we call a 4?

IMO, yes. They have different roles offense. Karaban playing the 4 does a lot of screening and verh little ballhandling. It is a different role in our offensive system, despite all 4 playing "out."

I would always prefer Jackson in a ballhandling role. Which is why Karaban's development is close to a necessity on this team with Johnson out.

Defensively Jackson is so switchable it doesn't really matter versus most teams.

 

[bendm]

If we're playing 4 out, does it really matter who we call a 3 and who we call a 4?

i think so because if AJ is said to be playing the "4" then that should imply there's a guard playing at the "3" i.e. hawk or alleyne, which would be considered a small ball as opposed to a traditional lineup.

on defense karaban is also more likely to be matched up with a big and AJ a wing or guard, at least when they are on the floor together.

 

[auror]

i think so because if AJ is said to be playing the "4" then that should imply there's a guard playing at the "3" i.e. hawk or alleyne, which would be considered a small ball as opposed to a traditional lineup.

it also matters for defensive assignments. karaban is more likely to be guarding a big and AJ a wing or guard.

Hawkins at the 3 can be considered a traditional lineup. He's 6'5" and long. That's NBA 2-guard size, but college wing size.

 

[bendm]

Hawkins at the 3 can be considered a traditional lineup. He's 6'5" and long. That's NBA 2-guard size, but college wing size.

the combination of a guard at the 3 and AJ at the 4 is what makes it small ball. i agree that hawk at the 3 and karaban/johnson/springs at the 4 would also be traditional.

i was trying to respond to the post saying karaban at the 3 and aj at the 4 doesnt make a difference. that would also be traditional in terms of size but i dont think there's a point to saying that when aj is clearly more of a wing and karaban a perfect stretch 4... idk i'm finding this harder to articulate than i expected.

 

[Punkbo]

Newton - 25 mpg
Hawkins - 25 mpg
Jackson - 28 mpg
Karaban - 25 mpg
Sanogo - 28 mpg

Diarra - 18 mpg
Alleyne - 22 mpg
Calcaterra - 12 mpg
Clingan - 12 mpg
Springs - 5 mpg

I think you'll see something like this until Samson gets back (not necessarily exactly what you'll see Friday, but eventually). Once Samson is back, Springs won't play and he'll split the 4 with Karaban depending on game flow. Would love Donovan to get more than 12 minutes, and he will some games, but we aren't really set up to play him and Sanogo together at this point.

I think this is a very fair expectation. Diarra probably could warrant more time because of his energy. Calcaterra needs to improve his defense. At this point, he’s a traffic cone.