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Sorry, I thought FHCRE did. My mistake.
Hats off to Krajewski
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Good comments on JZ perhaps not getting as good an offensive scheme to work with, but still he played pretty poorly. Lot of TP "is way better" talk so thought would look at UConn QBR ratings and opponents to see if makes any sense.
UConn:
JZ 7.9
TP 35.4
SK 51.4
Some Opponents (not HC or Army)
FS 66.3
Purdue 64.6
Wyoming 44.0
Vanderbilt 27.5 (not sure fair as against Georgia had a .6 so maybe kid is better than this)
UMass 17.1 (is #122 out of 125 shown)
QBR highest is 91.9 this year and FS kid at 66.3 is #43. Average is a little less than 60. As you can imagine lot of this is related to how good or bad your team is and whether you've had some talent mismatches as opponents; but it does reflect so level of "performance by the numbers".
JZ stands out as low. Includes FCS game but also HCRE2.0 game coaching. All 3 have low volume of plays so not as meaningful as guys who have played 6 games.
Did seem like FS and Purdue were best QB's seen to date. Not sure Vanderbilt rating fair how Georgia kills opponents.
Sure hope UMass QB lives up (or is it down) to his ratings. Yikes, UMass had 134 yards last game and were 1-12 on 3rd/4th downs.
UConn:
JZ 7.9
TP 35.4
SK 51.4
Some Opponents (not HC or Army)
FS 66.3
Purdue 64.6
Wyoming 44.0
Vanderbilt 27.5 (not sure fair as against Georgia had a .6 so maybe kid is better than this)
UMass 17.1 (is #122 out of 125 shown)
QBR highest is 91.9 this year and FS kid at 66.3 is #43. Average is a little less than 60. As you can imagine lot of this is related to how good or bad your team is and whether you've had some talent mismatches as opponents; but it does reflect so level of "performance by the numbers".
JZ stands out as low. Includes FCS game but also HCRE2.0 game coaching. All 3 have low volume of plays so not as meaningful as guys who have played 6 games.
Did seem like FS and Purdue were best QB's seen to date. Not sure Vanderbilt rating fair how Georgia kills opponents.
Sure hope UMass QB lives up (or is it down) to his ratings. Yikes, UMass had 134 yards last game and were 1-12 on 3rd/4th downs.
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The next few weeks are SK's chance to establish himself as the #1 QB going into next year.
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Watch the games again. Throwing is a major weakness of TP at this point. He’s great, exciting to watch and will be awesome in due time, but Steve is way better throwing the ball. I had to rewatch the games and rewind over and over, but I came away confident that Steve is just as capable of winning as TP and maybe more so, because he is more careful with the ball. Tyler is being forgiven for very sloppy play because he’s such a breath of fresh air. The stats and a review of tape show Steve is just as good in his own way.
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Look at TP’s numbers and actual completions. There is plenty to like but it is mostly potential at this point.
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He had to put that ball in the receivers chest. It was definitely poorly thrown but still catchable.
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One thing was certain from yesterday. There is no buzz in the huddle or on the field between SK and rest of the offense. Energy and body language are poor in the huddle and between plays.
This is a thread I did not expect to see…. Please remember we played the 2nd worst team in football yesterday. When Steve threw the interception before halftime whlie we were up by 3, I was like who does this? What QB in their right mind throws a risky pass right before the half up by 3.
I am in the camp that our receivers on the whole are one of the shining points of our teams.
Steve K is a nice kid but to me, he looks more like a back up QB than ever before.
I never thought I would ever say this but start splitting halves again with Jack Z. Let’s see how Jack does with Randy‘s terrible Karma all around him.
I am in the camp that our receivers on the whole are one of the shining points of our teams.
Steve K is a nice kid but to me, he looks more like a back up QB than ever before.
I never thought I would ever say this but start splitting halves again with Jack Z. Let’s see how Jack does with Randy‘s terrible Karma all around him.
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This year is gone. Maybe we beat Yale. The new coach needs to get a quarterback from the portal next year. Tyler P needs to develops as a passer. Maybe he doesn’t. But you can’t win without a comment quarterback and right now we don’t have one.
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That's what Edsall stressed when he supported Jack Z as the starter-- even after his flawed play on the field. Jack, said Edsall, had the leadership/bully pulpit style that the team needed.
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SK's biggest problem is that he stares down receivers on almost every pass play. All the defenders have to do is watch his eyes and they can almost make a play every time. I think SK has been bailed out a few times because our receivers are getting open preventing the secondary from watching SK.
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I didn't see much emotion between JZ and the offense either. And being that JZ's physical skills as a QB were seriously lacking I tried to look for any connection between JZ and his teammates. Never stood out in the huddle or the sidelines.
Not sure what games you guys have been watching but there’s a huge drop off from Phommachanh to Krajewski. I will give everyone that Krajewski is much better the Zach; but can’t compare him to Phommachanh. He had a td pass that wasnt a particularly good throw but the receiver bailed him out (so idk why people are saying if only the receivers made some plays -he also got bailed out on the go ahead drive on a bad pass that should have been picked). He doesn’t have a particularly strong arm and isn’t very accurate And isn’t very mobile. I was at the game, and once Phommachanh went down with the injury, the team played with a completely different energy - like they knew the game was over (fortunately they picked it up after a few mins). With Phommachanh starting the whole season; I believe we beat HC, beat Vandy, beat Umass and beat Yale however with him out I think we will be lucky to get 1 win (maybe Yale but I’m not very confident). Phommachanh looked good against a solid Wyoming team and was off to a good start against vandy - Krajewski hasn’t looked all that impressive against Vandy and UMass so unless Phommachanh comes back health, I’m not very confident we get a win this year. At this point I would run an option offense like army, at least till Phommachanh gets back. On a positive note; Carter looks really good so hopefully he stays - also like some of the receivers we have and hopefully we can return them as well.
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You're yapping about a TD pass that a receiver bailed him out on during the UMass game. Next time, do yourself a favor and look at the date stamp on a post. You'll realize that my post was before the UMass game.
Read harder...
I think these QB discussions have a lot of assumptions built in… Here is my take - it’s to early to tell but we should know more when TP comes back.
1) Jack Z played the worst I’ve ever seen a QB play but honestly, seeing the Randy Edsal Dark cloud effect, and the poor decision making by Steve K with the interceptions - I’d like to see Jack get a half against Yale. Jack did play against top teams as well.
2). Steven K (who I was beginning to like) throws way to many int’s to lay absolute claim to the position. Please remember with him leading the offense, we lots lost by double digits to the 2nd worst team in football. He played horrible as did the team. Let’s not sugarcoat that loss like some have.
3) Tyler has put us in position for us to win but still needs to lead us to a victory to lay claim to the Starting position. We kicked way too many field goals again Wyoming. In retrospect, his play doesn’t make him a lock at QB either but he is most promising of the 3 by far.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we have now lost to teams across the spectrum. QB play has been part of the problem (not all.). Split halves with the healthy quarterbacks, maybe there will be less injuries this way and we can see who wants to the starting job.
1) Jack Z played the worst I’ve ever seen a QB play but honestly, seeing the Randy Edsal Dark cloud effect, and the poor decision making by Steve K with the interceptions - I’d like to see Jack get a half against Yale. Jack did play against top teams as well.
2). Steven K (who I was beginning to like) throws way to many int’s to lay absolute claim to the position. Please remember with him leading the offense, we lots lost by double digits to the 2nd worst team in football. He played horrible as did the team. Let’s not sugarcoat that loss like some have.
3) Tyler has put us in position for us to win but still needs to lead us to a victory to lay claim to the Starting position. We kicked way too many field goals again Wyoming. In retrospect, his play doesn’t make him a lock at QB either but he is most promising of the 3 by far.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we have now lost to teams across the spectrum. QB play has been part of the problem (not all.). Split halves with the healthy quarterbacks, maybe there will be less injuries this way and we can see who wants to the starting job.
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