Has Diamond D. been granted her release by UNC?

[cabbie191]

Regarding the prohibition of schools talking to another team's players. My recollection is that after Geno released Walker, she almost immediately enrolled at Kentucky. This is pure speculation on my part but I've always had the impression that she must have talked with the school before making the final decision to cut ties with UConn. Other's thoughts and recollections?

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Uppity was (and probably still is behind closed doors) very often used in the South to describe blacks who didn't "know their place." It was often followed by the N word.

News to me, I'll be happy to not use the word (not exactly common), but that wasn't the connotation that I heard it in growing up. Of course, I didn't grow up in the south or an environment with that kind of racism in it.

OTH, I think the whole thing is absurd that words that are absolutely not inherently racist become sensitive issues. I remember a classic case of "sounds like" that came from a completely different root that had a long history of use and never applied to, nor was used, in relation to race, but we were cautioned not to use the word as folks "thought" it was racist. And do you know, it has been so long since I thought about the word that I don't remember what it was and presumably don't use it.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Regarding the prohibition of schools talking to another team's players. My recollection is that after Geno released Walker, she almost immediately enrolled at Kentucky. This is pure speculation on my part buy I've always had the impression that she must have talked with the school before making the final decision to cut ties with UConn. Other's thoughts and recollections?

"Prohibited" and "actually happens" can both be true. There are some long-standing rumors about certain coaches, especially certain coaches that seem to accumulate transfers rather frequently. Also, one the Rutgers players that transferred a few years ago was rather broadly rumored to have been in touch with an assistant coach at a school where the head coach ultimately backed off, supposedly over fear of issues being raised. And that was from generally solid sources.

 

[intlzncster]

Uppity was (and probably still is behind closed doors) very often used in the South to describe blacks who didn't "know their place." It was often followed by the N word.

Interesting, I didn't realize that. I mean I'd heard it, but I've also heard it used in a bunch of different contexts. I hear it used with regards to a lot of rich folks. Obviously, I didn't mean it like that. I'll use "sh_t don't stink next time"!

 

[intlzncster]

What I found interesting to discover reading about the UNC issues is: at the same time they created this new criteria for 'grading' academic performance and applying it retroactively, they also completely abolished any minimum standard for athlete eligibility to get a scholarship. This allows schools with no conscience to give scholarships to any student that gets a HS diploma many of which are meaningless. And once enrolled to be given a course load of advanced macramé, dance for dummies, and weight room technique to maintain a few years of academic eligibility until they leave for pro ball. UNC and i suspect a number of other really ambitious universities even designed whole departments to administer nonexistent classes, and when even these courses proved to difficult, to find administrators willing to alter grades.

Hey, at least they learned something in those classes. Better than those non existent ones!

As to the points in your post: without question. I posted this somewhere else but can't remember if it was the men's board or not: At UK, the pro prospect basketball players don't even stay on campus after basketball season. They go to another city (state even->TX) to train and get ready for the pros. Ostensibly, they take online "classes" and "independent study" courses. And UK's APR beat Harvard's for a few years there!

 

[intlzncster]

News to me, I'll be happy to not use the word (not exactly common), but that wasn't the connotation that I heard it in growing up. Of course, I didn't grow up in the south or an environment with that kind of racism in it.

OTH, I think the whole thing is absurd that words that are absolutely not inherently racist become sensitive issues. I remember a classic case of "sounds like" that came from a completely different root that had a long history of use and never applied to, nor was used, in relation to race, but we were cautioned not to use the word as folks "thought" it was racist. And do you know, it has been so long since I thought about the word that I don't remember what it was and presumably don't use it.

I went to school in the south, and I never heard it. But that's fine, I can go with the flow, though I agree with your second point.

 

[ed4ourgirls]

. . . I remember a classic case of "sounds like" that came from a completely different root that had a long history of use and never applied to, nor was used, in relation to race, but we were cautioned not to use the word as folks "thought" it was racist . . .

I suspect the word you're looking for is "niggardly" (stingy). A professor at my
school used it once and came to a lot of grief as a consequence.

 

[ed4ourgirls]

Georgia & Andy Landers....

In her column, Mechelle Voepel makes a case for the homesickness angle. IF that is the
case, then Tennessee makes no sense, and Bill's guess becomes more plausible.

 

[triaddukefan]

 

[Icebear]

I suspect the word you're looking for is "niggardly" (stingy). A professor at my
school used it once and came to a lot of grief as a consequence.

That is a standard word from Scandinavian languages from Old Norse hnoggr.

 

[Marie Diaz]

ouch. DD brother got hit with a 90mph http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...elds-jrs-swollen-face-after-hbp-is-terrifying

hope he gets better soon.

 

[Zorro]

I guess that, since she was spotted with her mom cleaning out her dorm room, she has dropped out in mid-semester. Does that further complicate her situation, and, if so, how?

 

[UcMiami]

I guess that, since she was spotted with her mom cleaning out her dorm room, she has dropped out in mid-semester. Does that further complicate her situation, and, if so, how?

Don't really think so in terms of transferring - she would end up with incompletes as grades and lose a half year of college credits, but it doesn't really change the eligibility or the NCAA rules situation. If she really has dropped out 2/3rds of the way through a semester, she must really be miserable and it actually speaks well of her that she could keep playing at a high level if the personal side of school was so dreadful. Where is the clearing out coming from as I hadn't seen that in the stories I read.

 

[intlzncster]

Seems about normal to me...

 

[Vowelguy]

In her column, Mechelle Voepel makes a case for the homesickness angle. IF that is the
case, then Tennessee makes no sense, and Bill's guess becomes more plausible.

Knoxville is 3 hrs from Atlanta. (As is Columbia SC and Tuscaloosa AL.) Certainly closer than Chapel Hill.

Auburn and Athens are closer.

 

[HuskeySlim]

In Michelle Voepel's ESPN's article she says that Diamond was really homesick. Would she not be homesick anywhere else except Georgia Tech ? We also have to remember she is just a teenager whose decisions may change like the wind. Somehow I don't see her going overseas. Her family, from everything I have read, is secure financially.

Her high school coach says DD needs a year away to heal. She also says DD has been playing non-stop, year round since the 9th grade. Diamond herself even says she cried when she had to leave Atlanta to go back to Chapel Hill. Is it homesickness or something else ? Who knows ? This whole situation reminds me a lot of what went down with EDD.

A lot has been written on the BY about DD coming to UCONN. Would she be a good fit ? Some say you cannot turn down a talent like hers. Every coach HAS to look at team chemistry. What is the fist thing Geno looks at when recruiting ? Unselfishness. IMO with the young ladies we have, and the young ladies we have coming in I would say we just don't have a spot. I am not sure how the other young ladies would take it.
Plus, we did alright without her. I say we have a great thing going, and we should not mess with success.

 

[Vowelguy]

Don't really think so in terms of transferring - she would end up with incompletes as grades and lose a half year of college credits, but it doesn't really change the eligibility or the NCAA rules situation. If she really has dropped out 2/3rds of the way through a semester, she must really be miserable and it actually speaks well of her that she could keep playing at a high level if the personal side of school was so dreadful. Where is the clearing out coming from as I hadn't seen that in the stories I read.

The cleaning out story was a tweet by someone who said s/he lived on DD's floor in the dorm. The tweet was sent to the reporter who broke the story about the transfer.

Clearing out, if that happened, does not mean that she's not finishing out the semester. In fact, her HS coach said DD planned to complete her classes this month.

 

[ctkaiser]

I thought a kid is allowed to contact other schools when she leaves the school and decides to transfer, either herself or an intermediary (?). Other schools cannot initiate contact though. Maybe the current school has to give permission idr. Has Diamond even left the Chapel Hill campus?

Any school in America would be absolutely thrilled to have her. I think this board's bias is getting in the way of reality here.

I remember reading one time that Roy Williams said he sent Christmas cards to guys he recruited in the past. Kind of a sleazy way to stay in touch. What's the modern day equivalent? Send a tweet?

 

[ctkaiser]

Regarding the prohibition of schools talking to another team's players. My recollection is that after Geno released Walker, she almost immediately enrolled at Kentucky. This is pure speculation on my part but I've always had the impression that she must have talked with the school before making the final decision to cut ties with UConn. Other's thoughts and recollections?

If she didn't talk to Kentucky directly somebody spoke on her behalf because I remember it the same way you do, a seamless transition.

 

[Icebear]

Don't really think so in terms of transferring - she would end up with incompletes as grades and lose a half year of college credits, but it doesn't really change the eligibility or the NCAA rules situation. If she really has dropped out 2/3rds of the way through a semester, she must really be miserable and it actually speaks well of her that she could keep playing at a high level if the personal side of school was so dreadful. Where is the clearing out coming from as I hadn't seen that in the stories I read.

That depends on whether qualifies for incompletes that is not the case in every course.

 

[stamfordhusky]

What I found interesting to discover reading about the UNC issues is: at the same time they created this new criteria for 'grading' academic performance and applying it retroactively, they also completely abolished any minimum standard for athlete eligibility to get a scholarship. This allows schools with no conscience to give scholarships to any student that gets a HS diploma many of which are meaningless.

No. To qualify for a scholarship, an athlete needs a minimum GPA and a minimum SAT, per NCAA rules. Also must have passed 16 specified "college prep" courses. It's not the highest hurdle - but many with a HS diploma can't clear it. For example, if you have a 2.5 GPA (and the required 16 academic courses), then you need a two-part SAT score of at least 820. With a 2.0 GPA, you need a minimum of 1010 on the SAT. Below 2.0 GPA and no scholarship. Since every prospective student-athlete must go through the NCAA Clearinghouse, there really is no way to avoid the minimum standards.

 

[stwainfan]

I watched the video of her accepting the HS POY award. She thanks Pat Summitt in her speech.

 

[calpedaler]

I watched the video of her accepting the HS POY award. She thanks Pat Summitt in her speech.

and then decided to go to UNC.

 

[UcMiami]

No. To qualify for a scholarship, an athlete needs a minimum GPA and a minimum SAT, per NCAA rules. Also must have passed 16 specified "college prep" courses. It's not the highest hurdle - but many with a HS diploma can't clear it. For example, if you have a 2.5 GPA (and the required 16 academic courses), then you need a two-part SAT score of at least 820. With a 2.0 GPA, you need a minimum of 1010 on the SAT. Below 2.0 GPA and no scholarship. Since every prospective student-athlete must go through the NCAA Clearinghouse, there really is no way to avoid the minimum standards.

Are you sure about this - that was the old rule that according to the HBO piece is no longer applicable - the APR is now their only requirement.

 

[bschwartz]

I am willing to wager that the timing of the announcement was tied to A'ja's announcement. I think Diamond timed it to give A'ja her day without people trying to connect the two events. Had she announced this weeks ago, some might blame her for A'ja not going to UNC if that was the case. I think she did the right thing, and I think A'ja knew it. Nice.

Also, I won't link to it bc it was so nasty, but did you hear how Diamond's brother got blasted in the face with a 90mph fastball. Tough week in that family.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Are you sure about this - that was the old rule that according to the HBO piece is no longer applicable - the APR is now their only requirement.

You are correct. They eliminated the test requirement, at least from the NCAA's point of view.

Part of the on-going discussion of folks going to college to play sports that just don't belong there. More of a problem in the men's game than the women's, thank goodness.

 

[Zorro]

The cleaning out story was a tweet by someone who said s/he lived on DD's floor in the dorm. The tweet was sent to the reporter who broke the story about the transfer.

Clearing out, if that happened, does not mean that she's not finishing out the semester. In fact, her HS coach said DD planned to complete her classes this month.

Absolutely right. Unsubstantiated rumor. My bad. Apologies. I hope she does finish the semester; it would be a great waste not to.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

In the Mechelle Voepel article, her 2nd DD interview, Diamond said she broke down and cried having to go back to NoCar after the GA Tech game in GA! Being homesick! If this is true why would she go to TN which is about as far away from GA as NoCar? Maybe further? Wouldn't she go to a school closer to home? I really doubt she'd go overseas to play pro!

 

[USC303]

Chapel Hill is almost twice as far from Atlanta (almost 6 hours) as Knoxville (a little over 3).

 

[UcMiami]

Chapel Hill is almost twice as far from Atlanta (almost 6 hours) as Knoxville (a little over 3).

Still a long way for dropping in for Sunday lunch. according to google 5:29 vs 3:14 - not a pleasant one-day round trip either way.