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CallMeBruce said:
God, enough. Yes, you don't like the guy, you're bitter that he left too early. Move on. This is ridiculous.
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Ok Doctor Freud. Why don't you try and put words in my mouth or psycho-analyze me some more.

I'm not bitter in the least. I think it's a bad decision, period. And I do not have any like or dislike for Hamilton. Ridiculous indeed. I'm far more moved to post in response to idiocy - like yours - than in response to a player's performance or decision making. I stated my original thoughts on Hamilton's decision pages and pages ago. Now I'm just responding to stupidity. Again, like yours.

I'm also not responding to "Hamilton's statistical analysis" - hoo boy, the wit, it is strong - but to other posts from people that have the opportunity to consider his comments and then conclude, "Yeah, I agree, highly accomplished."
 
Deadrody said:
Ok Doctor Freud. Why don't you try and put words in my mouth or psycho-analyze me some more.

I'm not bitter in the least. I think it's a bad decision, period. And I do not have any like or dislike for Hamilton. Ridiculous indeed. I'm far more moved to post in response to idiocy - like yours - than in response to a player's performance or decision making. I stated my original thoughts on Hamilton's decision pages and pages ago. Now I'm just responding to stupidity. Again, like yours.

I'm also not responding to "Hamilton's statistical analysis" - hoo boy, the wit, it is strong - but to other posts from people that have the opportunity to consider his comments and then conclude, "Yeah, I agree, highly accomplished."
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Please don't disparage me when hitting Bruce.
 
Come on, this is like a scene from the movie Bull Durham.

When a guy leaves college early there are 2 acceptable answers:
1. I need to provide for my family
2. I have accomplished everything I set out to do here.

In this case DHam said them both regardless of whether they were his real reasons for departing.

Maybe Dham thinks he ready for the NBA? Or maybe Dham hates college life? Or maybe Dham is unhappy at UConn? Who knows what the real reason are? There are plenty of other reasons which if said would be more hurtful than I'm leaving for my family and my work is done here. The point is the reason he is leaving really does not matter.

Bottom line is Dham may be making a mistake but he deserves better than an angry UConn fan base attacking him. Sure I think he is making a mistake and should have stayed another year but I am grateful he came to UConn and I wish him the best. Anything less just seems petty at this point.
 
Deadrody said:
Ok Doctor Freud. Why don't you try and put words in my mouth or psycho-analyze me some more.

I'm not bitter in the least. I think it's a bad decision, period. And I do not have any like or dislike for Hamilton. Ridiculous indeed. I'm far more moved to post in response to idiocy - like yours - than in response to a player's performance or decision making. I stated my original thoughts on Hamilton's decision pages and pages ago. Now I'm just responding to stupidity. Again, like yours.

I'm also not responding to "Hamilton's statistical analysis" - hoo boy, the wit, it is strong - but to other posts from people that have the opportunity to consider his comments and then conclude, "Yeah, I agree, highly accomplished."
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Most people are just saying "who gives a damn." It was a nothing comment. Get over it.
 
Rico444 said:
It's hilarious how many fans here think these players owe them something, and take offense when a player makes a decision that conflicts with their fan experience. It's one thing to think Hamilton made the wrong decision (I think he did), but the level of vitriol is ridiculous. Daniel has done more for this university than any of you clowns calling him names. Give me a break.
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It is not vitriol when the consensus of the entire board is that he made a huge mistake. It is stating a fact.
 
dwalks93 said:
Come on, this is like a scene from the movie Bull Durham.

When a guy leaves college early there are 2 acceptable answers:
1. I need to provide for my family
2. I have accomplished everything I set out to do here.

In this case DHam said them both regardless of whether they were his real reasons for departing.

Maybe Dham thinks he ready for the NBA? Or maybe Dham hates college life? Or maybe Dham is unhappy at UConn? Who knows what the real reason are? There are plenty of other reasons which if said would be more hurtful than I'm leaving for my family and my work is done here. The point is the reason he is leaving really does not matter.

Bottom line is Dham may be making a mistake but he deserves better than an angry UConn fan base attacking him. Sure I think he is making a mistake and should have stayed another year but I am grateful he came to UConn and I wish him the best. Anything less just seems petty at this point.
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Every player that declares early says the same thing. Most of them are making the wrong decision.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
It is not vitriol when the consensus of the entire board is that he made a huge mistake. It is stating a fact.
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It is not vitriol when the consensus of the entire basketball universe is that he made a huge mistake. It is stating a fact

fixed it for you
 
I love some of the narratives of people attempting to bash posters who are saying Hamilton made a mistake

"we're angry"
"we think he owes us something"
"we're selfish"

some simply can't understand "we think he has the potential to substantially improve his draft position"

I've (we've) seen tons of players leave early, and I don't have a problem with it if they're going to be a lottery pick (at least 1st round) and the coaching staff says it's time to go (our staff knows this stuff)

it's not rocket science
 
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willie99 said:
I love some of the narratives of people attempting to bash posters who are saying Hamilton made a mistake

"we're angry"
"we think he owes us something"
"we're selfish"

some simply can't understand "we think he has the potential to substantially improve his draft position"

I've (we've) seen tons of players leave early, and I don't have a problem with it if they're going to be a lottery pick (at least 1st round) and the coaching staff says it's time to go (our staff knows this stuff)

it's not rocket science
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Well said. You can't question a player's decision even though the coach, who should never be questioned or doubted, also said the kid should stay. There is this bizzare phenomenon on this board where people want to believe that no one, anywhere, ever does anything wrong. Even suggestions of Emmert having an agenda against UConn are met with snide "tin hat" like comments. Some of these people live in a world of rainbow farting Unicorns. In this case, Hamilton must have his reasons for leaving and we should all assume they are good reasons and he is making the right decision for himself, his family, UConn, The United States of America, the world and any aliens that might exist on other planets.
 
It's also possible to withhold judgment until the draft happens. It's possible for him to get drafted AND also be true that staying a year would have helped him some. You're free to say you think it'll work out bad, but it's silly to suggest he has zero shot at being drafted.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
It is not vitriol when the consensus of the entire board is that he made a huge mistake. It is stating a fact.
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willie99 said:
It is not vitriol when the consensus of the entire basketball universe is that he made a huge mistake. It is stating a fact

fixed it for you
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You guys can pretend this is fact as much as you want, it's still just your opinion.
 
It is also possible to not take everything so literally. I am sure the people who said zero didn't really think zero but, instead, thought his chances were near zero.
 
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7774 said:
You guys can pretend this is fact as much as you want, it's still just your opinion.
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Whatever. It isn't a vitriolic opinion. Better?

When you make a decision that is highly visible, people will judge it as right or wrong. It comes with the territory so he had better put on his big boy pants, if he isn't already wearing them. And, really, how mentally weak does someone have to be to think a simple good/bad opinion of one of their decisions is vitriolic? I see a lot of weak here. I hope Hamilton is stronger and doesn't care what anyone outside of his inner circle thinks, unlike people here. Which brings us back to one indisputable fact. Ollie is/was/should have been in that inner circle.
 
Paesano said:
Whatever. It isn't a vitriolic opinion. Better?
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If you know the definition of vitriolic, it's easy to see there are many vitriolic opinions of Hamilton's decision on this board.
Paesano said:
And, really, how mentally weak does someone have to be to think a simple good/bad opinion of one of their decisions is vitriolic?
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Doesn't really have anything to do with mental strength or weakness. Again, just mainly knowing the definition of vitriolic.
Paesano said:
I hope Hamilton is stronger and doesn't care what anyone outside of his inner circle thinks, unlike people here.
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Seems like you should hope for the opposite, since not caring what anyone outside of his inner circle thinks seems to be driving his decision to leave, and you think that's a big mistake.
Paesano said:
Which brings us back to one indisputable fact. Ollie is/was/should have been in that inner circle.
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This of course is the exact opposite of an indisputable fact, and is not even something KO has any control over.

As always, you're an idiot.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
It is not vitriol when the consensus of the entire board is that he made a huge mistake. It is stating a fact.
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It IS vitriol when someone calls him an idiot, or otherwise attacks him as a person because he didn't decide to come back and add to their experience as a fan. Like I said before, I agree that he probably made the wrong decision here, but he doesn't deserve to be insulted, and the losers that do that have no right to when they don't contribute half as much to this university as Hamilton has.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Every player that declares early says the same thing. Most of them are making the wrong decision.
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EVERY player says the same thing? My God you are so simplistic at times -
 
rip7774 said:
He could rake! Pencil him in for .290-.300 yearly. Always wore a smile on mlb network. Sad that he's gone.
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Your memory is better than mine for sure. I thought he was more of a .260 type hitter but he actually hit over.290 9 times. He had less than 200 ABs 6 times though so he must have platooned or been a 4th OFer many of those seasons. Was very well liked by everyone, sad to lose him so young to such a tragedy.
 
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7774 said:
You guys can pretend this is fact as much as you want, it's still just your opinion.
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Fact or opinion? Most people treat their opinions as fact!
 
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caw said:
If internet is correct same agent as Marcus Williams and DeAndre Daniels.
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Yeah, definitely the two UConn players you would hope your pro career turns out like. yikes
 
UConnWingman said:
Some folks won't want to hear this, but this should tell you all you need to know about what Daniel Hamilton thinks of Kevin Ollie's ability to make him a better ball player next year. It's pennywise, pound foolish on the surface, but if you think you're better off learning in the DL (where he'll likely wind up), then so be it.
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Or is he just done with college and ready for a salary?
 
tcf15 said:
Because agents are responsible for player development.
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or is it because agents advise players as to what will enhance their career?
 
Clockshop said:
Goldfeder is also the agent for Blake Griffin, all 3 Zellers, Isaiah Thomas and more
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Who does Hamilton have more in common with the UConn players or Blake Griffin and the Zeller brothers?


tcf15 said:
Because agents are responsible for player development.
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When deciding on an agent, it seems like you would consider how the careers of players who were in similar situations turned out. It makes sense to me.
 
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