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Message: [QUOTE="87Xfer, post: 4048967, member: 10566"] You could possibly pick apart the stats (but stats are just that- stats. hard to argue with) That's missing the point of the guy's value In my opinion. I've never had any particular love for Ripken or the Orioles. But most people don't say he was the best glove ever, or the best slugger ever, or the best shortstop ever (all should probably be based on stats). Look at his impact on MLB, public opinion of the sport, his affect on teammates, his ungodly longevity, his total commitment to his sport and his team, and the fans. PLUS his stats. He's overrated, really? That's the position you want to take? [/QUOTE]