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For those who are saying kls will be the starting guard along with nurse, how many times did geno start stewie at guard? As i said in an earlier post 4 of the starters are set and the 5th starter will be a battle between Z and Collier in practice the way geno always decides who starts. Since opposing teams bigs do not fear collier and will take it to her, i see geno starting Z to control the boards something the team struggled with last season.
What I said is that Gabby (not KLS) will be the guard opposite to Kia, but that only really applies to the defensive end. On offense, the positions will not be straitjacketed so that everyone can use their skills. You may see KLS functioning (more or less) as a shooting guard on offense, and Gabby functioning (more or less) as a wing who does not take many 3's but does take midrange shots and can drive on any defenders who are not lightning-fast. She (far more than KLS) will be a force on the offensive boards.

But when the other team has the ball, Gabby and Kia will be the primary perimeter defenders.
 
But when the other team has the ball, Gabby and Kia will be the primary perimeter defenders.
It depends on who is on the floor and who is starting. With a lineup of Kia , KLS, Napheesa, Azura, & Gabby defensively UCONN will switch everything therefore designated "primary perimeter" defenders are not required.
When Crystal comes in the game (as with Natalie last year) switching becomes less of an option. All four of the incoming Freshmen and Batouly have the size to continue switching if inserted into the game.
 
Who thinks that? I think most feel(as do I) that Nurse will start at the 1, KLS the 2, Williams the 3, Collier the 4, and Stevens the 5.
Geno's UConn teams continue to defy common terminology: Danger is a 1; Kia is a 1.5; KLS is a Swing (part SG, part Wing); Pheesa and Z are Fings (part F, part Wing); and Gabby is a SAK (Swiss Army Knife). How Geno deploys his forces is for him to know and for us to marvel.
 
I don't know if it's just me wishful thinking but the way USA basketball is handling Crystal is almost like she is being groomed for 2020 Olympics and if not 2020 definitely beyond.

I don't know if this is true but Dangerfield passes out of a pick-and-roll better than many professional point guards.

I believe Crystal will be the first player off the bench and do what Geno loves his 6th player to do: change the pace of the game.
 
All I know is forever Geno is loyal to his seniors. Kia will start every game this season. What happens during the game will be to the enjoyment of all.
Remember the debates we had about KLS and Napheesa that first summer? I am looking forward to seeing the debates warm up about Walker and Coombs.
 
I don't know if this is true but Dangerfield passes out of a pick-and-roll better than many professional point guards.

I believe Crystal will be the first player off the bench and do what Geno loves his 6th player to do: change the pace of the game.
Exactly. After 6 minutes or so, when teams with less depth are starting to get winded, she'll come in, kick the pace up a couple more notches and blow the game wide open. Now with some experience, when Auriemma turns her loose,it's going to get nasty when she gets them running.
 
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Until the stats track the number of points scored against an individual player or How many times a player is beaten off the dribble/lose an assignment that leads to another person scoring, those numbers will not tell a complete story, Let's also track how many times a player is benched for not playing defense.. Let's be honest, they are a few weak spots on our team defensively, but if a team were to pick one weakness to exploit, I'll bet Crystal would be that point. :)

Crystal is not the worst defensive player on the team. That said, I will not argue that she is not the worst of the first 6 players on the floor. I've seen her man go right by her on more than one occasion (but not all the time) last year. I gave her a pass last year because she was a freshman. Learning how to play good defense (playing the passing lanes and keeping your arms up) and learning how to keep your man in front of you, is part of making that "sophomore leap" that all freshmen are expected to make. We all know that NOTHING frustrates Geno more than seeing one of his players get beat off the dribble. Saniya Chong's inability to keep her man in front of her played a large part (the other being her I-band injury) of her logging so much pine duty her first three years.

I've also seen Lou get beat several times as did Napheesa, because of being out of position, and not having their feet in the correct position to guard their man. IMO, the two best defensive players for Geno is Kia and Gabby (with Kia being the best). They have the ability (and determination) to keep their man in front of them. Geno once said "when Gabby is guarding you, you're guarded". Any basketball purist knows that you play defense with your feet, not your hands. The good defensive players keep their feet moving while in a defensive stance (instead of standing flat-footed). Sometimes we learn best (and more quickly) from our peers than our instructors (coaches).

I would like to see Dangerfield become tutored by peers Gabby and Kia, during the remainder of the summer, and before or after practice once the season starts. One on one instruction on how to move your feet, how to anticipate a player's movement, and how to take something away from your man. Learn how to be "proactive" instead of reactive. Shoot it, pass it, or drive to the basket. Those are a player's options on offense.

A good defensive player will take one or more of those options away from you. Moriah Jefferson was great at this, so was Stewie. This was a skill they both learned AFTER they arrived at UConn, not before. Dangerfield at some point will learn it too. She'll have to ..........if she wants to play. KML was not a defensive stalwart, but Geno could not afford to take her out of the lineup for long periods of time. That's where Kiah Stokes came in as a counter measure. One was great on offense, the other was great on defense. Geno became masterful at inserting them into the lineup at any given time.

Whether you make them pass it, go in the direction YOU want them to go in, or take a shot that's not the best shot they could take (or they're comfortable with, i.e., a bad shot). The best thing (as far as you're concerned) is for your man to pass the ball to another player. If you can do that, then, you've done your job. You kept your man from scoring.

You ALWAYS try and help your teammates if and when you can, because EVERYONE gets beat once in a while. If you can hold YOUR man scoreless for all or most of the game, that frustrates them, and puts more pressure to score on their teammates. Remember 3 years ago when Ohio State's (and the nation's) leading scorer Kelsey Mitchell was held to just 8 points when they played UConn? Great defense held her to those 8 points. That was one of the reasons UConn won that game by such a large margin, because no one else stepped up. The twin towers at South Carolina were both always held to well under their season average when they played UConn because of good tight defense played by Stewie and Tuck.

The last time UConn played Notre Dame for the NC, Brianna Turner (their leading scorer) was held scoreless in the first half by Stewie and Tuck. Crystal is quick enough to be a lock-down defender. She just has to learn and master the "technique"...................like Jefferson did. I'm betting she will. :cool:
 
Exactly. After 6 minutes or so, when teams with less depth are starting to get winded, she'll come in, kick the pace up a couple more notches and blow the game wide open. Now with some experience, when Auriemma turns her loose, it's going to get nasty when she gets them running.

BobbyJ, you get it!!!! That is exactly what's going to happen. You're not alone in your observation, you have lots of company. Crystal will not start, but once she comes in, the pace and energy will pick up.
She may play as many minutes as any starter, and stay on the floor until the game has been decided. Two thumbs up to you sir. Excellent post!!! :)
 
I don't know if this is true but Dangerfield passes out of a pick-and-roll better than many professional point guards.

I believe Crystal will be the first player off the bench and do what Geno loves his 6th player to do: change the pace of the game.

Welcome to the club. :)
 
If I remember correctly, Geno said no one comes out of high school playing good defense.
That is a truism when speaking of HS vs College, but some in HS play pretty fair HS defense--it's a matter of levels.
Danger today Vs Italy played good defense--can it be better--we'll see. The one important thing to take from USA vs Italy--when Danger was in the game--USA excelled, when she was not USA's lead went away. The coach subbed out Danger in the 4th qtr and almost immediately PUSHED danger into the game. She is that important to US.
 
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That is a truism when speaking of HS vs College, but some in HS play pretty fair HS defense--it's a matter of levels.
Danger today Vs Italy played good defense--can it be better--we'll see. The one important thing to take from USA vs Italy--when Danger was in the game--USA excelled, when she was not USA's lead went away. The coach subbed out Danger in the 4th qtr and almost immediately PUSHED danger into the game. She is that important to US.

I watched the game Saturday and saw the same thing aboutvwhen Danger was and wasn't in the game
 
I have been following the discussion(s) about starters, Crystal, Azura, Nurse and now Coombs. First, it would be a puzzle to me if Azura left Duke for Uconn to come off the bench. That would send tremors in the wbb world. And many would simply laugh. It won't happen.
 
I have been following the discussion(s) about starters, Crystal, Azura, Nurse and now Coombs. First, it would be a puzzle to me if Azura left Duke for Uconn to come off the bench. That would send tremors in the wbb world. And many would simply laugh. It won't happen.
When she left Duke I was of the same opinion that she would automatically be a starter. Since Azura left Duke 3 UCONN WCBB players have played themselves into AA and national POY candidates two of them playing the same position as Azura. Still likely that Azura starts but for her to start in the front court would mean she's displacing a returning UCONN AA. Which one?
 
When she left Duke I was of the same opinion that she would automatically be a starter. Since Azura left Duke 3 UCONN WCBB players have played themselves into AA and national POY candidates two of them playing the same position as Azura. Still likely that Azura starts but for her to start in the front court would mean she's displacing a returning UCONN AA. Which one?
I wouldn't get hung up about who plays what position on this team. Geno will start his 5 best players. IMO that's the returning 4 starters + Z.
 
When she left Duke I was of the same opinion that she would automatically be a starter. Since Azura left Duke 3 UCONN WCBB players have played themselves into AA and national POY candidates two of them playing the same position as Azura. Still likely that Azura starts but for her to start in the front court would mean she's displacing a returning UCONN AA. Which one?
That (your last sentence) is a non sequitur. (Latin term used in legal and academic circles: means "does not follow".) Azura, Napheesa, Gabby, and KLS can all start -- there is no need for any of them to come off the bench. That would leave the last open position as a guard position which would be filled by either Kia or Crystal in the starting lineup (you would think they are the only logical possibilities). In practice, regardless of who starts (and I think it will be Kia), they will both get plenty of minutes.

That does mean that either Gabby and KLS (or both) would have to function as a hybrid guard/wing. They are both quite capable of doing that. As I said previously in this thread, I think that in general, KLS will function as a 2-guard on offense and Gabby will function as a perimeter defender on defense. That is perfectly feasible for both of them.
 
That (your last sentence) is a non sequitur. (Latin term used in legal and academic circles: means "does not follow".) Azura, Napheesa, Gabby, and KLS can all start -- there is no need for any of them to come off the bench. That would leave the last open position as a guard position which would be filled by either Kia or Crystal in the starting lineup (you would think they are the only logical possibilities). In practice, regardless of who starts (and I think it will be Kia), they will both get plenty of minutes.

That does mean that either Gabby and KLS (or both) would have to function as a hybrid guard/wing. They are both quite capable of doing that. As I said previously in this thread, I think that in general, KLS will function as a 2-guard on offense and Gabby will function as a perimeter defender on defense. That is perfectly feasible for both of them.

I only took 2 semester of Latin in HS and I was obviously clumsy with my main point. Let me start over because I agree with everything you said: IMO Gabby, Napheesa, and KLS have earned the right to start above Azura if it came down to choosing three starters from among those 4 players. It obviously does not come down to that =non sequitur=your main point=me agreeing with you.
 
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I only took 2 semester of Latin in HS and I was obviously clumsy with my main point. Let me start over because I agree with everything you said: IMO Gabby, Napheesa, and KLS have earned the right to start above Azura if it came down to choosing three starters from among those 4 players. It obviously does not come down to that =non sequitur=your main point=me agreeing with you.
Many of my current posts agree with you EXPERTS, JoeP, Oldude, Cocohusky, DavidinNaples, etal

The 4 returning starters from last year--would seem to have priority as starters--Azura, I would think may shout FOUL if she does not start. But you all are right in my assessment---no need for anyone to feel left out in PT and in some cases Starting time--
Every kid on this team is SMART--and knows BB--they can do the math and know their teammates, practice habits, abilities, where they are good where they arent'===
So something has to bend and chemistry must be maintained.
Depending on the difficulty, size, speed of the opponent Geno can mix and match--even while starting the five all believe will start shall start..
No issue--except for Christine keeping records of minutes played.
 
I wouldn't get hung up about who plays what position on this team. Geno will start his 5 best players. IMO that's the returning 4 starters + Z.


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Many of my current posts agree with you EXPERTS, JoeP, Oldude, Cocohusky, DavidinNaples, etal

The 4 returning starters from last year--would seem to have priority as starters--Azura, I would think may shout FOUL if she does not start. But you all are right in my assessment---no need for anyone to feel left out in PT and in some cases Starting time--
Every kid on this team is SMART--and knows BB--they can do the math and know their teammates, practice habits, abilities, where they are good where they arent'===
So something has to bend and chemistry must be maintained.
Depending on the difficulty, size, speed of the opponent Geno can mix and match--even while starting the five all believe will start shall start..
No issue--except for Christine keeping records of minutes played.

Every once in a while you make sense. ;) Your syntax needs work and your cadence can be annoying, but, still, if a person can parse it, sometimes it makes sense.... Don't let it go to your head though Broadway.
 
SIGH... !! They are plenty of people who can score and share the ball on this team, Crystals Defense is just not strong enough at this point. This is the area I believe Geno will be going after her the most. I'm just not seeing any huge growth in that area. To me, it seems like Crystal is just content on reacting to the offensive player(s) instead of attacking them and forcing them to do what is uncomfortable. There is no doubt in my mind that she can and will be an offensive force, but I'm not so sure that is what is needed/expected of her right now with a team so loaded with scoring.
While more positive in my thoughts, defense will be the main factor in minutes this coming year. Team was loaded last year but could not stop quick point guards from driving the middle. Geno has a LONG memory.
 
When she left Duke I was of the same opinion that she would automatically be a starter. Since Azura left Duke 3 UCONN WCBB players have played themselves into AA and national POY candidates two of them playing the same position as Azura. Still likely that Azura starts but for her to start in the front court would mean she's displacing a returning UCONN AA. Which one?

CocoHusky- - -Azura would be replacing Saniya and the lineup would change positions, (even tho Geno really doesn't stick to real positions the're just titles) without benching an AA. The line up for the beginning of 2017-2018 IMHO would be:

Kia Nurse PG
KLS SG AA
Gabby Williams SF AA
Naphessa Collins PF AA
Azura Stevens PF/C

1st G off the bench will be: Crystal Dangerfield
1st Big off the bench will be: Batouly Camara

It might change later on during the season but this is the only lineup that makes sense, again IMHO!
 
I don't know what the big deal is about who starts, particularly at the beginning of the season. Geno will play whatever mix of players he thinks it will take to win, in whatever role he thinks will work and I doubt he gives a rodent's hindquarters who is an AA, who starred at another school, who is supposed to be the second coming of Sue Bird, etc., etc. He might have some decent depth this year, which would be nice for a change, but who knows how kids will develop and mesh. And he's always used the bench pretty effectively to "motivate" players when they needed it. I would guess that there will be plenty of line-up changes during the first half of the season as he figures how to make the best of the talent he has. Frankly I could care less about who starts, or even who plays - Geno's mentality (and I'm sure I could be wrong) seems to be that ALL his players have to earn their playing time based on how they practice EVERY day, not what they did a year ago, could do, might do or want to do. Looking forward to seeing what he comes up with by the time the real season begins after Christmas.
 
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I don't know what the big deal is about who starts, particularly at the beginning of the season.
This is a very big deal, how else would we get through the summer. Forget the start of the season I can't wait to see who start when the team the team goes Italy next month. People actually have money riding on this, can you please take it a little more seriously. :eek:
 
So far i watched part of the game. Crystal looked out of control and took some bad shots. I fully expected her to look better than she did. I will watch the rest when I have time. I was impressed with the girl from Princeton (Alarie) . Wishing had she had gone to Uconn. Good hands. I believe she's listed as a guard/forward on their team roster. With more strength and better jump shot mechanics she'll be a WNBA player. If she wants to. ...
 
What I said is that Gabby (not KLS) will be the guard opposite to Kia, but that only really applies to the defensive end. On offense, the positions will not be straitjacketed so that everyone can use their skills. You may see KLS functioning (more or less) as a shooting guard on offense, and Gabby functioning (more or less) as a wing who does not take many 3's but does take midrange shots and can drive on any defenders who are not lightning-fast. She (far more than KLS) will be a force on the offensive boards.

But when the other team has the ball, Gabby and Kia will be the primary perimeter defenders.

YES - YES - YES!!!!!!!! People are starting to get it!

Throw away the concept of positions 1 - 5. Geno has said as much. We have players that can play more than one position. In some cases they are interchangeable. Gabby will be the primary force on offense at the high post. Her passing down low to Pheesa and Z will be devastating. Kia and Lou will patrol the perimeter with their 3 point shooting. And that is for openers.

Now let's add all the other options:
Lou on the curl for that foul line jumper that is so devastating. And she drive the lane to the basket.
Pheesa can hit the mid-range jumper as well as some 3's. We all know what she can do in the low blocks.
Z has a full arsenal of weapons - the 3, the drive, the mid-range and she can battle down low.
Gabby will be Gabby - pass, shoot the foul line jumper or drive the lane.
Kia sets it up but we know given a lane, she goes to the hoop with force.

If you are an opposing coach, how do you defend this? Who have you got defensively to match up? You may be able to contain a couple of our ladies, but there are three others who can do serious damage! Remember, all UConn players are very good passers.

Crystal Dangerfield comes off the bench and hits the turbo button. Game - set - match.
 
Every once in a while you make sense. ;) Your syntax needs work and your cadence can be annoying, but, still, if a person can parse it, sometimes it makes sense.... Don't let it go to your head though Broadway.
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Hup 2,3,4--Hup 2,3,4--Hup 2,3,4 Hup
I'm working on my cadence!
High praise from the Western Hills---
And a from a English Professor, I would assume!!
When formal composition is required on the By, few shall remain.
 
This is a very big deal, how else would we get through the summer. Forget the start of the season I can't wait to see who start when the team the team goes Italy next month. People actually have money riding on this, can you please take it a little more seriously. :eek:

How can you say this is a big deal?? It is a VERY BIG deal! It must be determined MY STARTING LINE is the ONLY LINE up possible.
 
YES - YES - YES!!!!!!!! People are starting to get it!

Throw away the concept of positions 1 - 5. Geno has said as much. We have players that can play more than one position. In some cases they are interchangeable. Gabby will be the primary force on offense at the high post. Her passing down low to Pheesa and Z will be devastating. Kia and Lou will patrol the perimeter with their 3 point shooting. And that is for openers.

Now let's add all the other options:
Lou on the curl for that foul line jumper that is so devastating. And she drive the lane to the basket.
Pheesa can hit the mid-range jumper as well as some 3's. We all know what she can do in the low blocks.
Z has a full arsenal of weapons - the 3, the drive, the mid-range and she can battle down low.
Gabby will be Gabby - pass, shoot the foul line jumper or drive the lane.
Kia sets it up but we know given a lane, she goes to the hoop with force.

If you are an opposing coach, how do you defend this? Who have you got defensively to match up? You may be able to contain a couple of our ladies, but there are three others who can do serious damage! Remember, all UConn players are very good passers.

Crystal Dangerfield comes off the bench and hits the turbo button. Game - set - match.

I believe Geno has said he coaches Basketball players, not women or men. To follow that up; Geno has stated he expects his players to see the floor both on offense and defense and take that which the opponents will give, i.e. take advantage of the errors they make.
I agree with your evaluation of the core four and Z but I with Kia's driving to hoop with force, well, at times she's a bull in a china shop.
 
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