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Message: [QUOTE="storrsroars, post: 3217142, member: 2500"] That's the beauty of playing in Scotland. They expect no more than 3:30. As a 15 hdcp, I shot something like a 115 on the Old Course (got the full tour - hacked out of gorse, trapped in some pot bunkers, played the Road Hole from the road after hitting the hotel), but with local caddies no balls were lost and our foursome still finished under that. I did par the 18th where the tourists were gathered, so they thought I was scratch, lol. [/QUOTE]