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I wonder what the adult literacy rate in that town is. It's a good thing that they focus on whatis important.

Very wealthy Dallas suburb. 65% of the residents supported the bond package if I remember correctly. Must pay dividends. Thye won State Championship @ highest level classification this year.
 
Medic you are correct. 63% supported the bond package of $119 million.

Its not even the largest stadium in texas or most expensive to build (high school only).

http://espn.go.com/dallas/story/_/i...gh-school-ready-unveils-60m-football-facility

Today, neighboring Plano High School's stadium seats more than 14,000 people. Mesquite, about 30 miles away from Allen, has a 20,000-seat stadium. And the Berry Center, a suburban Houston facility with a stadium, an arena and theater, opened in 2006 and cost about $84 million.
 
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Friday night football. And they sell these stadiums out most of the time..
 
I partially remember an article written last fall in the WSJ. It investigated these stadiums and found out how they got built. From what I remember, the state passed a law that would require rich school districts to subsidize poor school districts through some type of a property tax mechanism. The loophole was that investments made to town facilities from approved bond measures could be deducted from the tax payment to the poor towns. Essentially, building these super stadiums became a way to avoid distributing town money to other less affluent towns.
 
I just read an article last week of a judge upholding a lawsuit in Texas abou unfair access to education (i.e. the state funds so little of it, as most of the money goes through local school boards in such towns). If that lawsuit goes all the way to the Supreme Court and wins, you're going to see a total change in Texas.
 
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If I had to pick between redistributing my money to the poor or to something I'm passionate about like football I know what I'd pick. I'm sure that sounds unfair and cold hearted to most in CT... O well :-)
 
If I had to pick between redistributing my money to the poor or to something I'm passionate about like football I know what I'd pick. I'm sure that sounds unfair and cold hearted to most in CT... O well :)

It's not about redistributing your money to the poor. It's about education for all. Big difference.
 
It's what happens when the state doesn't tax you to death first and money stays at home.
 
What's that? Abysmal stupidity among the populace?

Yeah, we sure do it right in this state. 2nd highest taxed per capita yet still broke. I wish we had football stadiums like that here, at least we could point to something and see where our money has been pissed away to.
 
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Yeah, we sure do it right in this state. 2nd highest taxed per capita yet still broke. I wish we had football stadiums like that here, at least we could point to something and see where our money has been pissed away to.

More White Elephants! More White Elephants! More White Elephants!!
 
Yeah, we sure do it right in this state. 2nd highest taxed per capita yet still broke. I wish we had football stadiums like that here, at least we could point to something and see where our money has been pissed away to.

I agree that this state is in a ton of trouble, but that doesn't change the fact that a 60 million dollar high school football stadium is ridiculously stupid.
 
I agree that this state is in a ton of trouble, but that doesn't change the fact that a 60 million dollar high school football stadium is ridiculously stupid.

Does it generate income? With the way people are fanatical about football there and the fact that they can fill it up it doesnt seem all that far fetched that it will generate some significant revenue.
 
Does it generate income? With the way people are fanatical about football there and the fact that they can fill it up it doesnt seem all that far fetched that it will generate some significant revenue.

It's a good question. How much are tickets? How much is upkeep?
 
And, the short answer is: NO! There is no way possible that 6 home football games a year will generate enough income for this stadium.
 
And, the short answer is: NO! There is no way possible that 6 home football games a year will generate enough income for this stadium.

A few news stories I have read on it have indicated that the Facilities will be able to generate enough income to more than pay for the upkeep but not entirely pay for the initial price tag. I would imagine that should the facility become old enough that perhaps enough time will have passed and revenue generated that a significant portion of it's initial cost would be covered by the revenue generated.

Either way, it's a wealthy Texas community and they decided to spend the money on that to put their town on the map as opposed to the variety of silly things many communities waste their money on like a stupid dog park that my town is talking about.

It seems a little silly for us here to be pointing fingers at Texas in a wasteful spending manner. The truth is that state's economy is doing great, people are moving there and they have money to burn. Meanwhile in CT we're going to be looking at putting tolls on our highways because the idiots in Hartford can't seem to make due with one of the highest in the nation gas taxes and registration fees.
 
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A few news stories I have read on it have indicated that the Facilities will be able to generate enough income to more than pay for the upkeep but not entirely pay for the initial price tag. I would imagine that should the facility become old enough that perhaps enough time will have passed and revenue generated that a significant portion of it's initial cost would be covered by the revenue generated.

Either way, it's a wealthy Texas community and they decided to spend the money on that to put their town on the map as opposed to the variety of silly things many communities waste their money on like a stupid dog park that my town is talking about.

It seems a little silly for us here to be pointing fingers at Texas in a wasteful spending manner. The truth is that state's economy is doing great, people are moving there and they have money to burn. Meanwhile in CT we're going to be looking at putting tolls on our highways because the idiots in Hartford can't seem to make due with one of the highest in the nation gas taxes and registration fees.

$60 million for a football stadium.

Now lets' see that Connecticut waste. What are you comparing this to?
 
$60 million for a football stadium.

Now lets' see that Connecticut waste. What are you comparing this to?

Well that 60 million is misleading as for one it was locally funded by a community that could afford it. Two it will generate it's own revenue which will offset some of it's costs so it's hard to say what it's final total cost is.

Do I really need to dig up line items in the CT budget to point to? The whole thing is ripe with wastes that it's a waste of my time to start singling things out. I worked there, I saw how they do business. Each one of the state senators and representatives are all fighting to "bring back the bacon" and that has resulted in the 2nd highest tax per capita state in the Union with it only becoming worse as we have a populace who seems to be totally fine with that model. They're still struggling for more money as well as they gave us the largest tax hike since the income tax a couple of years ago and now they're talking tolls. But sure, we'll sit here like smug dbags and arrogantly smirk at a state that has it's fiscal house in order and has the actual money to go and splurge on a football stadium because that's what the people there actually want and they can actually afford it.
 
Well that 60 million is misleading as for one it was locally funded by a community that could afford it. Two it will generate it's own revenue which will offset some of it's costs so it's hard to say what it's final total cost is.

It can't generate anywhere near the money it needs to generate to cover $60 million in bonds. It just can't do it.

Do I really need to dig up line items in the CT budget to point to? The whole thing is ripe with wastes that it's a waste of my time to start singling things out. I worked there, I saw how they do business. Each one of the state senators and representatives are all fighting to "bring back the bacon" and that has resulted in the 2nd highest tax per capita state in the Union with it only becoming worse as we have a populace who seems to be totally fine with that model. They're still struggling for more money as well as they gave us the largest tax hike since the income tax a couple of years ago and now they're talking tolls. But sure, we'll sit here like smug dbags and arrogantly smirk at a state that has it's fiscal house in order and has the actual money to go and splurge on a football stadium because that's what the people there actually want and they can actually afford it.

I never said there is no waste in Connecticut.
 
I never said there is no waste in Connecticut.

660 Million for a bus lane from New Britiain to Hartford which will operate at a projected 3MM a year loss makes a 60MM high school stadium with rveenue to cover operating costs look brillant. One would think after 20 years plus of the same Democrat idiots running this State and padding the pockets of their state employee union buddies with our tax dollars, folks would wake up. Its a crying shame what has been done to Connecticut. The most laughable irony is many retired state workers, cops, firefighters and teachers flee the satae when they get their pensions because of ...taxes. They head to Florida, Tennessee and Texas while we get stuck paying the freight.
 
A couple years ago we went down to visit family in Houston and then drove to my dad's alma mater (Texas A&M). The Texas boonies are an interesting place. Miles and miles of nothing but cows and then a 15-20k seat football stadium smack dab in the middle of nowhere. It's a different world down there.
 
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