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How can you possibly call OSU a good team. That was terrible. Just horrible. How can that happen with under 3 minutes left?

If I didnt know better I would think you were being sarcastic this is so ridiculous. Next time Stonybrook hits an open 3 against UConn I want to hear you pump that "overrated" nonsense.
 
This is a Kansas team. Give up 10 in the final 10 seconds? Why not?
 
I'm starting to think that the inbound play is a lost art

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Who do you like on Ohio State?

Obviously Thomas is good. Craft is a good player, unfortunately he's picking a terrible time to play one of the worst games of his career. Their perimeter defense is as good as any in the country, which makes me think they could give Louisville some trouble. Laquinton Ross is the guy that makes me think they are a legit title contender - he's playing like a lottery pick right now.
 
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Entirely too reasonable. They're "wildly overrated" and have no one who's a threat on their team, including the Big 10's leading scorer, who we all know wouldn't get off the bench at UConn.

I didn't say they're wildly overrated. I said he wildly overrates them if he thinks they're a much bigger threat than Wichita. They are rated about where they should be. BIG DIFFERENCE. As for leading scorers, Bryce Cotton lead the BE this year. So what?
 
Obviously Thomas is good. Craft is a good player, unfortunately he's picking a terrible time to play one of the worst games of his career. Their perimeter defense is as good as any in the country, which makes me think they could give Louisville some trouble. Laquinton Ross is the guy that makes me think they are a legit title contender - he's playing like a lottery pick right now.

Perimeter defense is good? Really? Then how do you explain what we just saw?
 
If I didnt know better I would think you were being sarcastic this is so ridiculous. Next time Stonybrook hits an open 3 against UConn I want to hear you pump that "overrated" nonsense.

Stony Brook is not hitting an open 3 against UConn in the F8 with the game on the line in the final minutes, nor is UConn leaving any 3 point shooter all alone like that.
 
Stony Brook is not hitting an open 3 against UConn in the F8 with the game on the line in the final minutes, nor is UConn leaving any 3 point shooter all alone like that.

I'm still trying to figure out why its so important for Ohio State to beat Louisville. I would be rooting for Louisville and be totally indifferent if OSU faced Duke. OSU is an inherently unlikeable institution.
 
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They're on an eleven game winning streak with wins over MSU (x2), Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, and Arizona.

They are very talented.
Not talented enough apparently
 
The refs just stopped calling fouls on Ohio State the last 10 minutes of the game. A mid-major has to win by 10 in the Final 8 to win at all. Wichita State won by 15 tonight, no matter what the scoreboard says.
 
Upstater - OSU's biggest problem in that game was Wichita going 8-20 from three while they went 5 of 25. Some of that was probably defense, but most of it was probably unfortunate statistical variance. Their other problem is not having a shotblocker inside - Craft, Scott, and Smith Jr. are all exceptional defenders on the perimeter, however nobody on their team blocks shots with any regularity.

I'm not making OSU out to be a juggernaut because they're not, but if you think a Wichita team that struggled that mightily with OSU's press will survive Louisville's press, you are sadly mistaken. Don't confuse my opinion here with me thinking they didn't earn their spot in Atlanta, because they certainly did, and they are a good team. But the talent disparity between OSU and Wichita was pretty wide. Wichita was simply more well-coached, tougher, and hungrier today.
 
The refs just stopped calling fouls on Ohio State the last 10 minutes of the game. A mid-major has to win by 10 in the Final 8 to win at all. Wichita State won by 15 tonight, no matter what the scoreboard says.

Felt like it went the other way in 2006. Seemed like Mason got several breaks - they called something really soft on us with about a minute to go (palming, maybe?) that took away a key bucket. Not a horrendous call, just something you wouldn't expect in that spot.

Perhaps my homer glasses don't remember some breaks we did get (and i've said often the refs handed us the UW game, so I'm not that much of a homer). And it wasn't the reason we lost, of course. Just was clearly a case where the refs called it straight up and let the better team win.
 
Time to jump on the bandwagon! Hoping the Shockers go all the way. They're the only team to make this thing interesting right now.
 
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Upstater - OSU's biggest problem in that game was Wichita going 8-20 from three while they went 5 of 25. Some of that was probably defense, but most of it was probably unfortunate statistical variance. Their other problem is not having a shotblocker inside - Craft, Scott, and Smith Jr. are all exceptional defenders on the perimeter, however nobody on their team blocks shots with any regularity.

I'm not making OSU out to be a juggernaut because they're not, but if you think a Wichita team that struggled that mightily with OSU's press will survive Louisville's press, you are sadly mistaken. Don't confuse my opinion here with me thinking they didn't earn their spot in Atlanta, because they certainly did, and they are a good team. But the talent disparity between OSU and Wichita was pretty wide. Wichita was simply more well-coached, tougher, and hungrier today.

I honestly saw things differently. I saw very poor perimeter defense from OSU. I was shocked how bad it was.
 
Felt like it went the other way in 2006. Seemed like Mason got several breaks - they called something really soft on us with about a minute to go (palming, maybe?) that took away a key bucket. Not a horrendous call, just something you wouldn't expect in that spot.

Perhaps my homer glasses don't remember some breaks we did get (and i've said often the refs handed us the UW game, so I'm not that much of a homer). And it wasn't the reason we lost, of course. Just was clearly a case where the refs called it straight up and let the better team win.
Was just going to post something akin to this. GMUs two big guys were allowed to massacre our guys. They were shorter and bulkier (6'7"-6'9"), which is why Adrien and (if I recall correctly) Nelson matched up pretty decently with them. But they were allowed to just bully Boone and Armstrong with impunity.

And the palming violation was not just questionable, but indefensible. I don't remember the score at the time, but I remember feeling that it was devastating.
 
Was just going to post something akin to this. GMUs two big guys were allowed to massacre our guys. They were shorter and bulkier (6'7"-6'9"), which is why Adrien and (if I recall correctly) Nelson matched up pretty decently with them. But they were allowed to just bully Boone and Armstrong with impunity.

And the palming violation was not just questionable, but indefensible. I don't remember the score at the time, but I remember feeling that it was devastating.

just watched the replay on NCAA vault. Uconn was down four with 1:02 left in regulation after a pretty unfortunate tip in by GM. MW drove it to the basket and made a runner, but it was called off due to the palming. The call was pretty awful. I could swear there was another palming call on MW earlier in the game in the backcourt, but i'd have to rewatch the entire game.
 
Gregg Marhsall (Wichita State head coach) was just on ESPN2 on sportscenter talking about their final 4 run this year and he mentioned their 2011 team...

He said something along the lines that his 2011 WSU team should have beaten Connecticut in Maui "for reasons I won't get into" and probably would have ended up playing another good team in Maui after us which would have been good enough to get them into the NCAA tournament that year (they made the NIT). He says that that team could have gone on a run in the NCAA tournament similarly to his team did this year.

He seemed cocky about it, came off as a . To end the interview, the sportscenter anchor said "well now you can get over the UConn loss from a few years ago since you're in the final 4..." and instead of dropping it, he continued with it saying "well there's some things that happen that you just can't forget and get over so easily."

He seemed super bitter about the whole situation and it came across as really odd considering his team is in the final4 and he's complaining about something that happened over 2 years ago.

I only remember UConn getting a call or two down the stretch, but it was Kemba who willed us to a W again in that game.

I was rooting for Wichita State but after the interview it really turned me off to their coach who seemed very smug. Now I'm hoping they lose (also because if Cuse wins I want them to play a tougher team in the final than Wichita State).
 
Gregg Marhsall (Wichita State head coach) was just on ESPN2 on sportscenter talking about their final 4 run this year and he mentioned their 2011 team...

He said something along the lines that his 2011 WSU team should have beaten Connecticut in Maui "for reasons I won't get into" and probably would have ended up playing another good team in Maui after us which would have been good enough to get them into the NCAA tournament that year (they made the NIT). He says that that team could have gone on a run in the NCAA tournament similarly to his team did this year.

He seemed cocky about it, came off as a . To end the interview, the sportscenter anchor said "well now you can get over the UConn loss from a few years ago since you're in the final 4..." and instead of dropping it, he continued with it saying "well there's some things that happen that you just can't forget and get over so easily."

He seemed super bitter about the whole situation and it came across as really odd considering his team is in the final4 and he's complaining about something that happened over 2 years ago.

I only remember UConn getting a call or two down the stretch, but it was Kemba who willed us to a W again in that game.

I was rooting for Wichita State but after the interview it really turned me off to their coach who seemed very smug. Now I'm hoping they lose (also because if Cuse wins I want them to play a tougher team in the final than Wichita State).
I still want Wichita State to win the whole thing.

Smug as he may be, it's better than seeing Syracuse, Louisville, Duke, or Florida cut down the nets. I can accept Michigan.

But that's incredibly douchey, and I remember WSU being really bitter after that game.
 
I still want Wichita State to win the whole thing.

Smug as he may be, it's better than seeing Syracuse, Louisville, Duke, or Florida cut down the nets. I can accept Michigan.

But that's incredibly douchey, and I remember WSU being really bitter after that game.

I got nothing against UL, Florida, or Michigan winning it. As long as it ain't Duke or Cuse.
 
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I got nothing against UL, Florida, or Michigan winning it. As long as it ain't Duke or Cuse.
Florida or Louisville would tie us for titles, and both would, in that scenario, also be ahead of us in Final Fours (Louisville already is by a mile).
 
Gregg Marhsall (Wichita State head coach) was just on ESPN2 on sportscenter talking about their final 4 run this year and he mentioned their 2011 team...

He said something along the lines that his 2011 WSU team should have beaten Connecticut in Maui "for reasons I won't get into" and probably would have ended up playing another good team in Maui after us which would have been good enough to get them into the NCAA tournament that year (they made the NIT). He says that that team could have gone on a run in the NCAA tournament similarly to his team did this year.

He seemed cocky about it, came off as a . To end the interview, the sportscenter anchor said "well now you can get over the UConn loss from a few years ago since you're in the final 4..." and instead of dropping it, he continued with it saying "well there's some things that happen that you just can't forget and get over so easily."

He seemed super bitter about the whole situation and it came across as really odd considering his team is in the final4 and he's complaining about something that happened over 2 years ago.

I only remember UConn getting a call or two down the stretch, but it was Kemba who willed us to a W again in that game.

I was rooting for Wichita State but after the interview it really turned me off to their coach who seemed very smug. Now I'm hoping they lose (also because if Cuse wins I want them to play a tougher team in the final than Wichita State).

We got a break or two in that game, but if you're whining about a November loss as your reason for not getting into the NCAA Tournament, you didn't do your job as a head coach. Period. Wichita State lost at home to VCU in the Bracket Busters. Win that one, maybe you have VCU's spot in the First Four, or don't get swept by Missouri State or don't get upset by Indiana State in your conference semis.

In fairness, we were in that same spot in 2001 and had some beefs. Lost a first rounder to Dayton in Hawaii and got a much weaker consolation schedule that may have been the difference in an at large bid. Only difference was, we were missing Caron because we actually were honest about self-reporting (about prep school tuition assistance, per an NCAA mandate) and the NCAA banged us for it, while everyone else just ignored the mandate. We still had our chances after that - right down to the end when we blew a game to Seton Hall on a Darius Lane three-pointer. Ultimately, that team didn't deserve to go (home loss to Detroit hammered that point home).

Oh, those Darii. Lane got us once, Rice got us once, and Smith got us once from the inside.
 
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