Given Men's BB deal to play Maryland at Barclays...

[CL82]

anyone rethinking their opposition to the ND deal? I wonder if it would have helped us with the ACC, since ND might have wanted to make it one of the set ACC games.

 

[freescooter]

Different situations I think. For one thing basketball teams regularly play these neutral site games/pseudo-tournaments early in the season. We've done it before. Secondly, there is a difference between playing 30 games and playing 12. When you play 30, with maybe 20 at home, you can afford to play 1 neutral site game even if the opponent is going to be a defacto home team. Not so much when you have only 6 home games. I wouldn't object to playing a neutral site game from time to time in football. Nor would I object to playing Notre Dame at a neutral site. But I don't go for playing our home games at a neutral site and their home games at their home field.

 

[pj]

Does playing Maryland help us with the B1G?

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

None of this matters.

Does UConn add value ($$$$$) if we added them to our conference?

That is the only thing that matters.

Not who we play. Not who we suck up to.

Does UConn add value ($$$$$) if we added them to our conference?

 

[CL82]

Does playing Maryland help us with the B1G?

You know a good showing by us will be noticed. Pack the Rent, compete on the field and I have to believe that that's a positive.

 

[SubbaBub]

Beating MD will help. Not a lot, but we'll take every bump in perception we can get. Beating Michigan would help more.

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[huskymedic]

anyone rethinking their opposition to the ND deal? I wonder if it would have helped us with the ACC, since ND might have wanted to make it one of the set ACC games.

Wasn't necessarily opposed to it when it first came up. I for one think the opposition was a typical over the top reaction that reeked of entitlement that we weren't due at that point in time. 7 years was a long term but I also think the deal could have been modified before it blew up and politicians got involved - which at that point made it's death fait accompli.

 

[Adios]

Attending the game and making noise is what will help the most.

 

[ZooCougar]

We need to lock in games with BCS schools in every sport as far out as possible. It's the only way to mitigate this mess.

 

[ZooCougar]

Also, if this is an away, neutral site game that our students and fans can actually travel to, then that serves UConn.

How many students will travel to Tulsa for away games? This is the biggest travesty IMO. Students at UConn now will not have the same experience or opportunitys as most of the alums here enjoyed.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Also, if this is an away, neutral site game that our students and fans can actually travel to, then that serves UConn.

How many students will travel to Tulsa for away games? This is the biggest travesty IMO. Students at UConn now will not have the same experience or opportunitys as most of the alums here enjoyed.

Yep. Me and my friends would go to one away game a year. PC, Cuse, St. John's, and BCU. Only saw them lose one of those games (PC).

 

[upstater]

Also, if this is an away, neutral site game that our students and fans can actually travel to, then that serves UConn.

How many students will travel to Tulsa for away games? This is the biggest travesty IMO. Students at UConn now will not have the same experience or opportunitys as most of the alums here enjoyed.

They'll head down to Temple. Otherwise, you're right. On the other hand, there was no option. Even the Catholics are traveling to Nebraska, Wisconsin, Indiana, Chicago, St. Louis, Ohio, so the travel was not good regardless.

 

[Pudge]

We have many Boneyarders in "Delusionville".

Notre Dame should have been taken for the very same reason we need to take this path on the AAAAA Conference road. We need to build ... develop ... play to our highest & best ... as a Fanbase and as a Program. We cannot get hung up on pride and stupid "we can't do that". If it pushes us to a higher plane ... we need to do it. As you can see, we aren't making gobs of money at this. (***YET)

 

[Husky25]

Wasn't necessarily opposed to it when it first came up. I for one think the opposition was a typical over the top reaction that reeked of entitlement that we weren't due at that point in time. 7 years was a long term but I also think the deal could have been modified before it blew up and politicians got involved - which at that point made it's death fait accompli.

ND plays in Chestnut Hill every other year and Alumni Stadium seats only a few thousand more than the Rent. ND was trying to wave it's big stick at the up start and force UConn to "give up" a home game by playing in Foxborough or East Rutherford. I am happy that UConn stood its ground. It's a shame that the Rent can't seat more or that there isn't a higher capacity stadium within state borders...oh wait..Yale Bowl...

 

[freescooter]

We have many Boneyarders in "Delusionville".

Notre Dame should have been taken for the very same reason we need to take this path on the AAAAA Conference road. We need to build ... develop ... play to our highest & best ... as a Fanbase and as a Program. We cannot get hung up on pride and stupid "we can't do that". If it pushes us to a higher plane ... we need to do it. As you can see, we aren't making gobs of money at this. (***YET)

I have a bit of a disagreement on this. To me winning is way more important than who you beat. it wasfor Boise State and it was for TCU and it will be for us. though it is hard to figure what the bowl season will look like after 2014, winning bowl games is also important. Boston College made their reputation in part by the Flutie play, but that would have been a one off had they not followed it up. They did by going bowling, particularly under O'Brien and for the most part winning those games. None of the bowls were exactly high level, but they got a few big name scalps--Georgia, Michigan State, Arizona State--all of which contributed to the impression that they were a "major" program. Boise had a similar bowl record. They won a whole bunch of games against modest opposition. Then beat Oklahoma. But mostly they beat some ok teams in a bunch of lesser known bowls including their own hometown one. TCU won a bunch of games agaisnt less opponents and then won a bunch of bowl games in lesser bowls, in their case mostly against lesser opponents. But they won lots of games and went to bowls all the time. That is the model. Teams that take the "play anyone any where" seldom have long term success. And despite what they claim, that has not been the Boise model.

 

[huskymedic]

ND plays in Chestnut Hill every other year and Alumni Stadium seats only a few thousand more than the Rent. ND was trying to wave it's big stick at the up start and force UConn to "give up" a home game by playing in Foxborough or East Rutherford. I am happy that UConn stood its ground. It's a shame that the Rent can't seat more or that there isn't a higher capacity stadium within state borders...oh wait..Yale Bowl...

BCU has a long history w/ND - we didn't.

It's okay to give up a "home game" to play @ Yale Bowl but not @ the other two stadiums for higher visibility?

 

[Husky25]

BCU has a long history w/ND - we didn't.

It's okay to give up a "home game" to play @ Yale Bowl but not @ the other two stadiums for higher visibility?

1) Prior to November 1993, BC played Notre Dame exactly 4 times prior in the previous 18 years and one of those was a bowl game. Not exactly long standing history. BC expanded Alumni Stadium as a direct result of that win in 1993.

2) The other stadiums are not within the state borders. Best case is to have Connecticut be the benficiary of the economy boost.

 

[ZooCougar]

I have a bit of a disagreement on this. To me winning is way more important than who you beat. it wasfor Boise State and it was for TCU and it will be for us. though it is hard to figure what the bowl season will look like after 2014, winning bowl games is also important. Boston College made their reputation in part by the Flutie play, but that would have been a one off had they not followed it up. They did by going bowling, particularly under O'Brien and for the most part winning those games. None of the bowls were exactly high level, but they got a few big name scalps--Georgia, Michigan State, Arizona State--all of which contributed to the impression that they were a "major" program. Boise had a similar bowl record. They won a whole bunch of games against modest opposition. Then beat Oklahoma. But mostly they beat some ok teams in a bunch of lesser known bowls including their own hometown one. TCU won a bunch of games agaisnt less opponents and then won a bunch of bowl games in lesser bowls, in their case mostly against lesser opponents. But they won lots of games and went to bowls all the time. That is the model. Teams that take the "play anyone any where" seldom have long term success. And despite what they claim, that has not been the Boise model.

TCU won alot. But they had some big signature OOC wins against schools like Oklahoma. Boise did as well.

The school that wrote the book on winning without actually playing anyone was Kansas State. They would have a great OOC record and then lose to Texas and Nebraska.

 

[huskymedic]

1) Prior to November 1993, BC played Notre Dame exactly 4 times prior in the previous 18 years and one of those was a bowl game. Not exactly long standing history. BC expanded Alumni Stadium as a direct result of that win in 1993.

2) The other stadiums are not within the state borders. Best case is to have Connecticut be the benficiary of the economy boost.

Prior to 1993? Cherry-picking. The ND deal was proposed in 2009. How many times did they play between 1993 and 2008?

 

[Husky25]

Prior to 1993? Cherry-picking. The ND deal was proposed in 2009. How many times did they play between 1993 and 2008?

Ummmm...no...I'm not.

The Upset of #1 Notre Dame in South Bend on November 20, 1993 by Boston College ignited a series of yearly games. It occured exactly seven days after Notre Dame beat Bobby Bowden, Charlie Ward and the Fast Break FSU offense. BC and ND played 14 times between 1993 and 2008.

 

[huskymedic]

Ummmm...no...I'm not.

The Upset of #1 Notre Dame in South Bend on November 20, 1993 by Boston College ignited a series of yearly games. It occured exactly seven days after Notre Dame beat Bobby Bowden, Charlie Ward and the Fast Break FSU offense. BC and ND played 14 times between 1993 and 2008.

So... BC had a longer history w/ ND than we did when the deal was proposed. That's all I said and you disagreed.

Not worth arguing about...

 

[HartfordHank]

Ummmm...no...I'm not.

The Upset of #1 Notre Dame in South Bend on November 20, 1993 by Boston College ignited a series of yearly games. It occured exactly seven days after Notre Dame beat Bobby Bowden, Charlie Ward and the Fast Break FSU offense. BC and ND played 14 times between 1993 and 2008.

Actually BC signed a six or seven year series with ND in the late 80's. The 1993 Game was just a game in that series and had no bearing on future games.

 

[HartfordHank]

1) Prior to November 1993, BC played Notre Dame exactly 4 times prior in the previous 18 years and one of those was a bowl game. Not exactly long standing history. BC expanded Alumni Stadium as a direct result of that win in 1993.

2) The other stadiums are not within the state borders. Best case is to have Connecticut be the benficiary of the economy boost.

BC expanded the stadium in 1988. Hate to throw facts at a good argument!

 

[Husky25]

BC expanded the stadium in 1988. Hate to throw facts at a good argument!

Don't worry, I don't think you did. Conte Forum was added to the complex in 1988 and the stadium was renovated, but not expanded.

According to BC.edu, Alumni was build in 1957 (26k), Expanded to 32,000 in 1971, and finally to 44,500 in 1994.

 

[Husky25]

So... BC had a longer history w/ ND than we did when the deal was proposed. That's all I said and you disagreed.

Not worth arguing about...

We were talking about two different things, so you are correct, It's not worth applying facts of one situation to the other. My only point was ND agreed to play in Chestnut Hill with a seating capacity of 44,500 (32,000 prior to the expansion and presumably at the time of the agreement), which is not much more than that of Rentschler Field, when they were among the best programs in the country year in and year out. But for UConn that's not good enough. That was the only thing I was trying to point out.