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Message: [QUOTE="willie99, post: 3339603, member: 192"] I'm not going off on those two guys to the extent some of you have. Vital leads the team in everything, he's critical to our success. Defense, rebounding and sticking 3's are his strength. He doesn't finish in a crowd well, but he's better this year than in the past. Gilbert plays great defense, he'll find his stroke too. What he absolutely has to stop doing is driving and turning the ball over with one shot blocked after another. If those were counted as turnovers, he's be at like 8 TO's per game or more. I still believe he's going to start playing like a Burger Boy soon. We need both kids to make better decisions, that's all, and that's easy to fix. No way we're better without them this year, that's silly. And no, they don't start for Dook or UK or UNC, big deal. Neither would the vast majority of our players over the years [/QUOTE]