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Message: [QUOTE="BlueMAB, post: 3796358, member: 920"] You're really serious about this? You really think the Giants did something wrong??? LMAO. Bruh. I can't believe someone out there really think the Giants did something wrong in that trade. Accorsi selected Rivers knowing he didn't have a deal in place yet, and that it meant he wouldn't draft the other QB he rated as highly as Eli. Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers. He told them not to draft him. They did anyway. Read below, or click the link. [URL='https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/news/eli-manning-philip-rivers-trade-giants-chargers']However, Eli Manning has never used his father as a scapegoat, instead taking responsibility for the decision to oppose the Chargers.[/URL] [I]"However, Eli Manning has never used his father as a scapegoat, instead taking responsibility for the decision to oppose the Chargers. [B]"I made up my mind, [/B]I talked to my dad about it, talked to Tom Condon about it," Manning [URL='https://nypost.com/2014/04/24/behind-the-scenes-with-eli-manning-on-day-that-changed-giants-history/']recounted to the New York Post in 2014[/URL]. [B]"We had this plan to kind of say, we'll tell San Diego not to draft you and hopefully they won't draft you, no one ever knows about it, they draft someone else, [/B]and you might get drafted by Oakland. Or you might get drafted by Arizona. Those were [picks] 2-3, and then the Giants were 4. ... He said, 'Maybe you slide to 4.' That was kind of what we were hoping for. "Obviously it did not work that way, and [B]San Diego came out and told them what I expressed to them[/B]. It's an uncomfortable situation -- you're excited about being at the draft and playing in the NFL, but then you have to deal with a lot of questions, and people were kind of questioning you and what's going on." The Giants caught wind of Manning's opposition to the Chargers and began plotting a trade to acquire him. New York general manager [B]Ernie Accorsi coveted the quarterback and wanted to strike a deal with San Diego. However, Accorsi feared making first contact would diminish his leverage. [/B]He also felt the Giants had an appealing backup plan in case no deal for Manning materialized. "I had a great backup position because of [Miami of Ohio quarterback Ben] Roethlisberger," Accorsi [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnZ54Vik9Cs']said on WFAN in 2016[/URL]. "We loved Roethlisberger." [B]But while the Giants preferred Roethlisberger as their Plan B to Manning, the Chargers favored N.C. State signal-caller Philip Rivers.[/B] Rivers had impressed Smith and his personnel department during a spectacular senior season in which he completed 348 of his 483 passes (72.0% completion) for 4,491 yards, 34 touchdowns, and seven interceptions. That difference of opinion became critical when[B] [SIZE=5]Smith selected Manning and didn't have a deal in place yet with New York. Accorsi faced a dilemma when the Giants came on the clock. Either he could take Roethlisberger, the best quarterback available in his evaluation, or select Rivers and hope to iron out a deal with the Chargers.[/SIZE][/B][/I] He selected Rivers, the teams made a trade, and the only one still mad about it is [USER=3196]@Horatio[/USER] [/QUOTE]

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