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GGG / Canelo 3

CardiacAndre7 said:
Well he just fought, he has injuries, and hasn’t really had time to rest since March with training and the war.

Why is he constantly calling out the guy Usyk beat back to back? I understand the money, but there’s nothing really on the line. And as I said, that Dillian Whyte fight was super unnecessary.

Fury has just been rubbing me entirely the wrong way. With this retirement, saying he’s coming back, saying he’s not. Just trying to stay in the public eye. He’s also just been an a**hole recently with comments about Usyk, you would think a guy that struggles so much with so many issues would be above petty/childish trash talk.
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He's a terrible human being, and a wonderful boxer. Plenty of guys in fight sports are... maybe the majority if you want me to be completely honest.
 
husky429 said:
He's a terrible human being, and a wonderful boxer. Plenty of guys in fight sports are... maybe the majority if you want me to be completely honest.
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I feel like not many of the champs right now aren’t at least alright guys, nor many of the top guys in various weight classes. I could be wrong
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Well he just fought, he has injuries, and hasn’t really had time to rest since March with training and the war.

Why is he constantly calling out the guy Usyk beat back to back? I understand the money, but there’s nothing really on the line. And as I said, that Dillian Whyte fight was super unnecessary.

Fury has just been rubbing me entirely the wrong way. With this retirement, saying he’s coming back, saying he’s not. Just trying to stay in the public eye. He’s also just been an a**hole recently with comments about Usyk, you would think a guy that struggles so much with so many issues would be above petty/childish trash talk.
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Fury is calling Usyk out, he calls him the "middleweight" and says Usyk is running and hiding, Fury calls everyone out.

What are Usyk's injuries that allow him to run around playing basketball but won't allow him to fight 4 months between fights? Why is Joshua, the loser against Usyk apparently ready to fight Fury on December 3rd?

 
husky429 said:
He's a terrible human being, and a wonderful boxer. Plenty of guys in fight sports are... maybe the majority if you want me to be completely honest.
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I view him very differently than you do. He seems like a great guy to me. Entirely engaging with everyone, talks candidly about his demons, he's hilarious, and he's a master showman/hype man like Ali who backs it all up in the ring. As much as he talked junk about Wilder leading up to those fights he showed Wilder all the respect in the world after Deontay laid it all on the line in the last fight. I love his personality and find him entirely unique and refreshing in today's sports world.
 
superjohn said:
Fury is calling Usyk out, he calls him the "middleweight" and says Usyk is running and hiding, Fury calls everyone out.

What are Usyk's injuries that allow him to run around playing basketball but won't allow him to fight 4 months between fights? Why is Joshua, the loser against Usyk apparently ready to fight Fury on December 3rd?

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Having trained and been in Ukraine for a period of time during the war, away from family for a while, he can get a break lol. He said he would be ready first few months of 2023. Being able to play basketball and being in a boxing match are two incredibly different things, that’s pretty simple.

Also Usyk has never fought at Middleweight so…weird. And Fury has been on record saying his toughest fight was Cunningham, who mostly fought at Cruiserweight.

Fury is just an a**hole, and if he really wants the Usyk fight, he could wait a few months for the boxer who fought so recently against a tough opponent.
 
superjohn said:
I view him very differently than you do. He seems like a great guy to me. Entirely engaging with everyone, talks candidly about his demons, he's hilarious, and he's a master showman/hype man like Ali who backs it all up in the ring. As much as he talked junk about Wilder leading up to those fights he showed Wilder all the respect in the world after Deontay laid it all on the line in the last fight. I love his personality and find him entirely unique and refreshing in today's sports world.
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I was referring primarily to the sketchy mob ties.
 
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Marat said:
Why the hatred for goodboy GGG ?

This seems to go against the majority opinion outside Mexico.
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Never liked GGG and the pandering "Mexican style" nonsense he and his team peddled during his HBO run. Talented fighter but too much propaganda for me, also turned around and did the same diva ish he and his team accused other fighters of doing once he became a major figure in the game, but of course he never caught the same heat for it. That's what happens when your promoter/manager Tom Loeffler is paying media figures for coverage.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Having trained and been in Ukraine for a period of time during the war, away from family for a while, he can get a break lol. He said he would be ready first few months of 2023. Being able to play basketball and being in a boxing match are two incredibly different things, that’s pretty simple.

Also Usyk has never fought at Middleweight so…weird. And Fury has been on record saying his toughest fight was Cunningham, who mostly fought at Cruiserweight.

Fury is just an a**hole, and if he really wants the Usyk fight, he could wait a few months for the boxer who fought so recently against a tough opponent.
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Fury really wants the fight, he just doesn't want to wait around a full year between fights.

Fury also calls Usyk a midget and himself a 7 footer. Usyk isn't really a midget or a middleweight and Fury really isn't 7 feet tall. It's all part of his selling/promotion and mind games. I think when they actually do set a date Usyk agrees to Fury will step up the trash talk much further.
 
I believe Usyk fought at middleweight for a period of time in amateurs...that was also close to 20 years ago though.

Fury just loves talking trash and ultimately just does it for the show. Fury close to matches Usyk's boxing ability and I think gives Usyk the best fight at HW there is to be made out there. I give Fury the edge because he is a talented boxer, especially for this size, and has heart. Wilder hit him with a Mack truck and he kept getting up. Usyk does not have that type of power.

I would love to hear how everyone thinks GGG/Canelo goes this time around. No way GGG can win on the cards in Vegas against Canelo as we have seen. Needs a KO, but Canelo and GGG both have some of the best chins in boxing if not the best, both now and historically so I just do not see a stoppage happening.

GGG has been susceptible to getting hurt to the body in the past few years so I expect Canelo's gameplan will be hitting the body early and often. The more you go to the body though the more you open up to getting touched up top. GGG needs to stay active and live off the jab, if he can keep the jab in Canelo's face 30+ times a round, which is right around where he averages his chances are good. Canelo cannot take time off either. He constantly gets in these modes where he does little to nothing for half to 2 min of a round just looking for counters then tries to steal the round in the last 30-60 sec. GGG knows this and will/should not let it happen.

Really want GGG to get this one, especially as a GGG superfan, but I just do not see it happening. I doubt this is the end for GGG, win or lose, but the end is definitely near and I want the good boy to go out on top as he deserves.
 
superjohn said:
Fury really wants the fight, he just doesn't want to wait around a full year between fights.

Fury also calls Usyk a midget and himself a 7 footer. Usyk isn't really a midget or a middleweight and Fury really isn't 7 feet tall. It's all part of his selling/promotion and mind games. I think when they actually do set a date Usyk agrees to Fury will step up the trash talk much further.
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He doesn’t wanna wait? He’s been making a huge deal about being retired, un-retiring, retiring again, yadda yadda yadda. Come on.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
He doesn’t wanna wait? He’s been making a huge deal about being retired, un-retiring, retiring again, yadda yadda yadda. Come on.
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You're listening to the Usyk crowd spin. You can't claim Fury is ducking when he gave him a date 4 months after Usyk's last fight where they were both going to make insane amounts of money.
 
ColchVEGAS said:
I believe Usyk fought at middleweight for a period of time in amateurs...that was also close to 20 years ago though.

Fury just loves talking trash and ultimately just does it for the show. Fury close to matches Usyk's boxing ability and I think gives Usyk the best fight at HW there is to be made out there. I give Fury the edge because he is a talented boxer, especially for this size, and has heart. Wilder hit him with a Mack truck and he kept getting up. Usyk does not have that type of power.

I would love to hear how everyone thinks GGG/Canelo goes this time around. No way GGG can win on the cards in Vegas against Canelo as we have seen. Needs a KO, but Canelo and GGG both have some of the best chins in boxing if not the best, both now and historically so I just do not see a stoppage happening.

GGG has been susceptible to getting hurt to the body in the past few years so I expect Canelo's gameplan will be hitting the body early and often. The more you go to the body though the more you open up to getting touched up top. GGG needs to stay active and live off the jab, if he can keep the jab in Canelo's face 30+ times a round, which is right around where he averages his chances are good. Canelo cannot take time off either. He constantly gets in these modes where he does little to nothing for half to 2 min of a round just looking for counters then tries to steal the round in the last 30-60 sec. GGG knows this and will/should not let it happen.

Really want GGG to get this one, especially as a GGG superfan, but I just do not see it happening. I doubt this is the end for GGG, win or lose, but the end is definitely near and I want the good boy to go out on top as he deserves.
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I told myself I wouldn't watch another GGG v. Canelo fight after the judging in the other fights and I'm sticking with that.

GGG wasn't near the height of his powers for the other ones and now he's ancient and would need a knockout for the win.
 
superjohn said:
You're listening to the Usyk crowd spin. You can't claim Fury is ducking when he gave him a date 4 months after Usyk's last fight where they were both going to make insane amounts of money.
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You’re being a full on Fury homer. Give the guy a bit of an extended break, its been a pretty tumultuous 10 or so months.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
You’re being a full on Fury homer. Give the guy a bit of an extended break, its been a pretty tumultuous 10 or so months.
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You're the one who said Fury is avoiding Usyk. I responded with that isn't true, Fury offered him a date and Usyk declined.

If Fury was actually avoiding him I would say that.
 
superjohn said:
You're the one who said Fury is avoiding Usyk. I responded with that isn't true, Fury offered him a date and Usyk declined.

If Fury was actually avoiding him I would say that.
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Well it appeared he had been. He was calling for the Joshua fight a lot. I understand its the money fight, but if you want to cement your legacy and better your resume, call out Usyk. And not at that quick of a turnaround for a guy who just went 12 rounds with a tough opponent. Come to an agreement in between both requested dates. That happens all the time.
 
Fury and Usyk will happen. Fury will get by Joshua in December and Usyk will probably take a fight in early 2023, which he will get by as there is not a HW that can compete with Usyk outside of Fury. Meaning Usyk vs. Fury for all the marbles will happen in summer 2023. It will be an amazing fight and might be the end of two great careers. I give Fury the edge, only because Usyk does not have the power to keep Fury away. Not to say Usyk cannot outbox him because Usyk is one of the best P4P pure boxers in the world.

How great for boxing it will be to see Spence/Crawford to end 2022, then having the potential Usyk/Fury and Beterbiev/Bivol sometime in 2023. All great matches that I think even casual fans would thoroughly enjoy.
 
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superjohn said:
I told myself I wouldn't watch another GGG v. Canelo fight after the judging in the other fights and I'm sticking with that.

GGG wasn't near the height of his powers for the other ones and now he's ancient and would need a knockout for the win.
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Watching an old man fight a 32 year old who already won because of blatant favoritism is not something I'm paying for. Everyone in the boxing world knows GGGs talent. He has nothing left to prove IMO.
 
Glorified sparring match and honestly does nothing to enhance Canelo's pfp status, GGG is clearly faded he should have put it on GGG. This fight probably drops Canelo's stock. I wonder what the Showtime and DAZN offers look like after this and the Bivol performance.
 
I do not necessarily agree. It was a good performance from Canelo, dominant actually. GGG could put nothing together and was hesitant to pull the trigger until the 8th round, mostly due to age it seemed. Power is the last thing to go so Canelo was still cautious with GGG. I know GGG says he has plans at 160 but I think he should probably hang them up. Maybe defend his belt one last time and ride into the sunset.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Now Fury is fighting Chisora...for the third time.
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I get why it's happening with all the media antics, retirement, botched negotiations yadda yadda yadda... but I'm not sure this is even a fight I'll bother to watch.
 
Fury vs. Chisora 3 is a joke. The only fight out there for Fury is the Usyk fight, so I guess a stay busy fight makes sense too bad it has to be Chisora as the outcome will be no different than the previous two from years ago...Fury has gotten better at turning his physical size in to power and Chisora is still the same old Chisora but older. When will Chisora stop getting booked for fights, the guy needs to go. It is a shame he is still ranked in the top 10 of just about every sanctioning body.

Chisora is a gatekeeper and should be fighting the likes of Frank Sanchez, Filip Hrgovic, Michael Hunter, etc. Guys looking the crack the top 10 and get a title shot, not guys solidified at the top looking to ride their legacy into the sunset.
 
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ColchVEGAS said:
Fury vs. Chisora 3 is a joke. The only fight out there for Fury is the Usyk fight, so I guess a stay busy fight makes sense too bad it has to be Chisora as the outcome will be no different than the previous two from years ago...Fury has gotten better at turning his physical size in to power and Chisora is still the same old Chisora but older. When will Chisora stop getting booked for fights, the guy needs to go. It is a shame he is still ranked in the top 10 of just about every sanctioning body.

Chisora is a gatekeeper and should be fighting the likes of Frank Sanchez, Filip Hrgovic, Michael Hunter, etc. Guys looking the crack the top 10 and get a title shot, not guys solidified at the top looking to ride their legacy into the sunset.
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Don't wanna see Chisora go against Sanchez, that wouldn't be pretty. But I do agree about him being a gatekeeper.

He should really just retire. I assume he will after this payday
 
Sanchez/Chisora would be a terrible matchup, I just mean those type of "ranked" on the cusp guys Chisora should be matches against, just to see if they are real players.

I have to correct myself...Chisora is only ranked by the WBC, which is fitting, at #14. He has dropped out of the top 15 in all other sanctioning bodies, yet BoxRec has him at #8.

GGG is set to face Esquivo Falcão within 120 days. I know nothing about Falcão except he is undefeated and Erislandy Lara is already lined up for GGG next.
 
ColchVEGAS said:
Sanchez/Chisora would be a terrible matchup, I just mean those type of "ranked" on the cusp guys Chisora should be matches against, just to see if they are real players.

I have to correct myself...Chisora is only ranked by the WBC, which is fitting, at #14. He has dropped out of the top 15 in all other sanctioning bodies, yet BoxRec has him at #8.

GGG is set to face Esquivo Falcão within 120 days. I know nothing about Falcão except he is undefeated and Erislandy Lara is already lined up for GGG next.
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Lara has changed up his style in his old age and is sitting down on his punches now. Could be a fun old guy slugfest. I hope we get to see it. It’s the type of matchmaking I want to see for GGG at this point
 
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