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Bigpetunia said:
So far in the tourney, the bench has played a total of 93 minutes, during which time they managed nine points total, achieved with one field goal and seven free throws. The five starters have played extraordinarily well, and the even distribution of their scoring is truly impressive. But we have to hope that once we get to the Final Four neither fatigue, nor foul trouble, nor, God forbid, injury pay this team a visit. Production from Kiah and the rest of the bench, at least on offense, has been non-existent, and while we can all hope, it's getting harder and harder to be very optimistic about short-term improvement.
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Big....I respect your opinion and use of some stats to back it up, but you are turning into the kid in class who always reminded the teacher she forgot to assign homework. :rolleyes:
UConn has 5 starters capable of scoring lots of points. When Kiah comes in, there are still 4 scorers on the floor. Even when Kiah and Saniya are in together there is still plenty of offense available. No doubt the bench is not scoring much. We all watch the games and see that. We get it. But when UConn is up 31 at the half against Rutgers, does that really matter? Does it matter enough to speculate about what MIGHT happen if we play ND and IF there is foul trouble or IF there fatigue...??? Please let us enjoy these victories and get out of class w/out homework..... please..:cool:

Go Huskies..!!
 
Forty_four said:
Facts hurt!!
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Facts with small samples are meaningless. Geno has liked what he has seen and Kiah is capable of scoring when the situation presents itself.
 
Icebear said:
Facts with small samples are meaningless. Geno has liked what he has seen and Kiah is capable of scoring when the situation presents itself.
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Kiah is averaging less than 5 pts/game over 33 games, she has shown very little capability of scoring. Geno likes what he sees on defense not on offense.
 
doggydaddy said:
Didn't your mother ever tell you, it's not what you say but how you say it?

Your constant insulting of Stokes it just full metal trolling.
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you may take my remarks as insults to Kiah, but I don't insult Kiah.
I offset your over the top optomisim with a sense of reality.
And your condensending remarks are not appreciated.


I dont wear the same rose colored glasses that you do
 
Forty_four said:
you may take my remarks as insults to Kiah, but I don't insult Kiah.
I offset your over the top optomisim with a sense of reality.
And your condensending remarks are not appreciated.


I dont wear the same rose colored glasses that you do
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Uh....I said they don't need her scoring this year. That is over the top optimistic?

I didn't vote her on the all-conference 2nd team.

It's even sadder you don't even know you are insulting her.
 
Forty_four said:
Kiah is averaging less than 5 pts/game over 33 games, she has shown very little capability of scoring. Geno likes what he sees on defense not on offense.
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She doesn't shoot. But she is capable of scoring.
 
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Bigpetunia said:
S
. Production from Kiah and the rest of the bench, at least on offense, has been non-existent, and while we can all hope, it's getting harder and harder to be very optimistic about short-term improvement.
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Keep trying.
 
doggydaddy said:
Uh....I said they don't need her scoring this year. That is over the top optimistic?

I didn't vote her on the all-conference 2nd team.

It's even sadder you don't even know you are insulting her.
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Boy, this is a familiar tune: "I'm not insulting, I'm injecting much-needed reality. and, you're wearing rose-colored glasses." It's remarkable how often snide, condescending remarks are justified in the name of "reality", and that, when that is pointed out, the "pointer" is dismissed as "wearing rose-colored glasses". First, on this board, the glasses are a pale shade of National Flag Blue. Second, if you were to take Kiah's numbers from this year - when she is usually the last or second-to-last scoring option on the floor - and merely assume she played the 31.7 minutes per game that Stef plays, this is what you get. 7.8 ppg, 12 rpg, and 133 blocks (over 4 pg). Now, that's higher than Stef's numbers in rebounds and blocks, and about 4.6 ppg lower. Stef's numbers in assists would be 1.8 per game higher as well.

Although Kiah does not score a lot, she is shooting .602 from the field, and .800 from the line. Not too shabby.

Projecting is an inexact science, as it does matter "who and when" those numbers were compiled. Given the minutes that Kiah has logged with the "first unit" lately, I'm pretty comfortable that we'll be seeing exemplary rebounding and block shot numbers. Offensively? Probably not - but, with KML, Stewie, MoJet, Morgan, Saniya, BB, and the frosh, it is still likely that she won't have to be option A, B, or C. If she can be the leading rebounder on the team, leading shot-blocker, and solid defensively - and throw in 8-10 points per game, that would be great.

Just for comparison - Jessica Moore did not average 10 ppg either her junior or senior year, and certainly didn't rebound or block shots as prolifically as Kiah. Jess was, statistically, the 4th scoring option on both those teams.
 
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Forty_four said:
Kiah is averaging less than 5 pts/game over 33 games, she has shown very little capability of scoring. Geno likes what he sees on defense not on offense.
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You asked Geno? You know what he wants from her on offense. Wow, cool that you have such access. On the otherhand she is doing exactly what is needed from her and scoring isn't one of them.

BTW, what is Kiah's personal best scoring game? That might give you an indication of what is possible for Kiah.
 
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Icebear said:
You asked Geno? You know what he wants from her on offense. Wow, cool that you have such access. On the otherhand she is doing exactly what is needed from her and scoring isn't one of them.

BTW, what is Kiah's personal best scoring game? That might give you an indication of what is possible for Kiah.
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"On the otherhand she is doing exactly what is needed from her and scoring isn't one of them". Wow, Geno told you that?? Cool that you have such direct access.

I have read the Geno quotes and he acknowledges her defense, while never mentioning her offense. He has said how frustrated he is with her, and it is not with her defensive efforts, its her lack of offense.

The possibility of Kiah scoring is there but the probability is not. For every double digit scoring game she had, she had more games of ZERO points tallied.
No great coach and especially a demanding coach like Geno is going to be satisfied with a player who is one dimensional. Even the great Kelley Faris had to improve her game offensively.

For a great rebounder, you would think she would score more off put backs. Rare that she does, because she gets the rebound and looks immediately to the perimeter. Too many on here keep predicting what she will do based on her potential, How do any of you know this? My statements are based on 3 years of history, yours is just wishful thinking.
 
pinotbear said:
Boy, this is a familiar tune: "I'm not insulting, I'm injecting much-needed reality. and, you're wearing rose-colored glasses." It's remarkable how often snide, condescending remarks are justified in the name of "reality", and that, when that is pointed out, the "pointer" is dismissed as "wearing rose-colored glasses". First, on this board, the glasses are a pale shade of National Flag Blue. Second, if you were to take Kiah's numbers from this year - when she is usually the last or second-to-last scoring option on the floor - and merely assume she played the 31.7 minutes per game that Stef plays, this is what you get. 7.8 ppg, 12 rpg, and 133 blocks (over 4 pg). Now, that's higher than Stef's numbers in rebounds and blocks, and about 4.6 ppg lower. Stef's numbers in assists would be 1.8 per game higher as well.

Although Kiah does not score a lot, she is shooting .602 from the field, and .800 from the line. Not too shabby.

Projecting is an inexact science, as it does matter "who and when" those numbers were compiled. Given the minutes that Kiah has logged with the "first unit" lately, I'm pretty comfortable that we'll be seeing exemplary rebounding and block shot numbers. Offensively? Probably not - but, with KML, Stewie, MoJet, Morgan, Saniya, BB, and the frosh, it is still likely that she won't have to be option A, B, or C. If she can be the leading rebounder on the team, leading shot-blocker, and solid defensively - and throw in 8-10 points per game, that would be great.

Just for comparison - Jessica Moore did not average 10 ppg either her junior or senior year, and certainly didn't rebound or block shots as prolifically as Kiah. Jess was, statistically, the 4th scoring option on both those teams.
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Exactly.

How many AA teams did Jess Moore make?
And using your player comparison why are people projecting Kiah will be AA next year?
 
Forty_four said:
"On the otherhand she is doing exactly what is needed from her and scoring isn't one of them". Wow, Geno told you that?? Cool that you have such direct access.

I have read the Geno quotes and he acknowledges her defense, while never mentioning her offense. He has said how frustrated he is with her, and it is not with her defensive efforts, its her lack of offense.

The possibility of Kiah scoring is there but the probability is not. For every double digit scoring game she had, she had more games of ZERO points tallied.
No great coach and especially a demanding coach like Geno is going to be satisfied with a player who is one dimensional. Even the great Kelley Faris had to improve her game offensively.

For a great rebounder, you would think she would score more off put backs. Rare that she does, because she gets the rebound and looks immediately to the perimeter. Too many on here keep predicting what she will do based on her potential, How do any of you know this? My statements are based on 3 years of history, yours is just wishful thinking.
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I didn't say that Geno stated what I was observing. You stated something Geno has not said about Kiah's recent play. Geno, however, has never been afraid to set Kiah nor to criticize so if he wasn't getting what he wanted he would make his point clear. He has never said specifically he has issues with her scoring. He has stated he has issues with her lack of focus and consistent effort. Never, specifically, offense. Probability of scoring would seem to be far more with Kiah than you realize giving her shooting %.

Check Jack's spreadsheet for her stats. For the 5th option on offense they aren't bad and will only improve.
 
Forty_four said:
Can't score if you dont shoot.
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Yes you can. Block a shot, get a rebound and pass the ball to someone more skilled at shooting than you are. Do that any you've scored just as surely as the person putting the ball through the hoop. It's a team sport.
 
DavidinNaples said:
Big....I respect your opinion and use of some stats to back it up, but you are turning into the kid in class who always reminded the teacher she forgot to assign homework. :rolleyes:
UConn has 5 starters capable of scoring lots of points. When Kiah comes in, there are still 4 scorers on the floor. Even when Kiah and Saniya are in together there is still plenty of offense available. No doubt the bench is not scoring much. We all watch the games and see that. We get it. But when UConn is up 31 at the half against Rutgers, does that really matter? Does it matter enough to speculate about what MIGHT happen if we play ND and IF there is foul trouble or IF there fatigue...??? Please let us enjoy these victories and get out of class w/out homework..... please..:cool:

Go Huskies..!!
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stat of the 13-14 season
 
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DaddyChoc said:
dont let what Kiah is or isnt doing stop you from enjoying this season
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Believe me I take great pride in the UConn wb success, and they are now at the point of the season where they need 6 more wins. My perspective also changes now, where winning is everything and scoring margin does not matter. Win and advance!
 
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